Right vs. Left is Logic vs. Emotion

[RightyTighty]

Here's the reality, friend - not all of life is about making a profit. When you grow up you'll learn that capitalism isn't the answer to everything, and it was never intended to be.

Here is a larger reality, friend - left-wing ideology is a failed ideology which results in massive debt, little production, poverty, misery, and ultimately...collapse.

When you grow up and accept reality over your precious little ideology, you will see the healthcare and standard of living in left-wing nations such as Cuba and Venezuela.

I don't have a problem with capitalism, I have a problem with dogmatic idiots such as yourself who don't understand what it is and isn't designed to do. There's no capitalist answer to grandpa needing a heart transplant. In true capitalism, he's useless and sucking up capital that shouldn't be wasted on him. Paying off his million dollar ICU bill at $50 a month isn't going to cut it when he's running up a bill of 15 or 20K a day. Try again.

And remember, the UK is capitalist but has socialized medicine, as does Sweden, Germany, France, and the rest of the modern Western world. We are the only nation unable to grow up and Trump is so breaking the system that soon there will be no choice but Medicare for all. Suck it, bitches.

 

[RightyTighty]

Not everyone can come in first place in a race so we should handicap fast runners to give the slow runners a fair chance of winning the race.

Winning isn't the problem when most can't even get to the track.

 

[RightyTighty]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

Those private hospitals are great, I'm sure, but they sure are more expensive than most of the population can afford. So explain to me again how our current healthcare system is accessible to all? People can't afford to visit a hospital when they've got Obamacare--their $10,000 + deductibles are prohibitive. Same with doctor's visits. Kimmel as a father has every right to tear up relating the close call his newborn went through. You guys slamming "emotion" vs. "logic" aren't doing so hot when it comes to finding an actual solution to the problem, though. More and more people can't afford to visit doctors. Fix it.

ok, lets get rid of Hospitals. It isn't fair that those who can afford it can get it while those who can't afford it can't get it. So lets make it so nobody can have it.

That's one answer. At least that doesn't mean money is what saves your life and only people with money matter.

 

[IsaacNewton]

On the contrary, Jimmy Kimmel exhibited rational emotion. His own child's life in danger of being lost he empathized with other humans in the same situation that wouldn't have the access to immediate and excellent healthcare as he does. Progressives see a child in school seeing their soldier parent surprise them after a year's absence and the entire classroom in tears and understand without question. Rational emotion. Or the rescue of a dog or other animal left to die in squalor by a person that has abused them and is moved when the animal is cared for, recovers, and finds a home and is giddy happy in it's new life. Rational emotion.

Conservatives view rational emotion as weakness when it is normal life. They've had their humanity beaten out of them, either physically or emotionally, at home as a child. They had an authoritarian father who made them live by the creed 'my way or the highway'. Go back and listen to Bush when he was in office, he repeated this idea over and over.

Progressives use intellect and rational thinking to solve a problem generally, though as humans they also are subject to bouts of anger. All people are. Conservatives operate primarily off of the emotion of fear. Their lives are driven by it. The seeking of money is a way to push back the scary world but their minds cannot disengage from this impulse even after they have enough material possession to not have to be fearful any more. Fear is ever present and pressing. This accounts for their ludicrous worship of other people that have a lot of money. They view these people as they wish to be, as far from the fear (and fear is the fear of death ultimately) as Earthly possession will allow. Their fear clouds their rational thought though. Evangelicals are able to view Donald Trump, one of the most immoral humans alive, as their savior and they vote for him. They act against every single thing they claim to believe. Fear.

Be clear though, all humans when pushed far enough will resort to violence. All humans. Being intellectual and rational works well up until the moment is doesn't. The founders, who were very well educated and intelligent men, used reason until it was clear reason wouldn't win the day. Unfortunately in all human affairs sometimes violence is necessary. But conservatives, as witnessed by the love of guns and their never ending desire for war, see it as the first response.

 

[P@triot]

I don't have a problem with capitalism, I have a problem with dogmatic idiots such as yourself who don't understand what it is and isn't designed to do.

And yet you are the dogmatic idiot who believes in the utopia snake-oil being sold by the idiotic left-wing ideology.

Grandpa is responsible for his own damn healthcare needs. His failures should not be society's failures. And if you care so much (and you clearly don't) - then you pay for Grandpa.

 

[P@triot]

On the contrary, Jimmy Kimmel exhibited rational emotion. His own child's life in danger of being lost he empathized with other humans in the same situation that wouldn't have the access to immediate and excellent healthcare as he does.

Another idiotic liar by the board's compulsive liar. Everybody has "immediate" and "excellent" access to healthcare in the U.S. Even illegal aliens. A hospital is not permitted to turn them away.

 

[Spare_change]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

Those private hospitals are great, I'm sure, but they sure are more expensive than most of the population can afford. So explain to me again how our current healthcare system is accessible to all? People can't afford to visit a hospital when they've got Obamacare--their $10,000 + deductibles are prohibitive. Same with doctor's visits. Kimmel as a father has every right to tear up relating the close call his newborn went through. You guys slamming "emotion" vs. "logic" aren't doing so hot when it comes to finding an actual solution to the problem, though. More and more people can't afford to visit doctors. Fix it.

St Jude childrens hospital provides treatments for free, and they provide housing for the parents.
Supported with donations.
The difference being, conservatives give to charity, leftists do not.

Oops!

 

[P@triot]

In true capitalism, he's useless and sucking up capital that shouldn't be wasted on him.

In tire left-wing socialism, grandpa is a burden. He's a cost to a system that is unsustainable. At the same time, he's not a producer. So under the left-wing ideology, he is either left to die without healthcare (Venezuela under Chavez) or he's executed (U.S.S.R. under Stalin).

 

[P@triot]

And remember, the UK is capitalist but has socialized medicine, as does Sweden, Germany, France, and the rest of the modern Western world.

How did that work out in the former U.S.S.R., Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia, Somalia, Venezuela, and Greece? Yep - even Greece collapsed under the absurd idiocy you keep advocating for. The banks are shut down and citizens aren't "allowed" to withdrawal $75 per week to live off of.

Some "utopia" you want to create here, asshole.

 

[Spare_change]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Then perhaps you can explain to all of us here if the right wing is so good at solving these problems of poverty and misery, why do red states such as the south have such low standards of income, healthcare, and education, and blue states such as those the west coast and the north east out preform the south in all those areas???

"Then perhaps you can explain to all of us here if the right wing is so good at solving these problems of poverty and misery, why do red states such as the south have such low standards of income, healthcare, and education, and blue states such as those the west coast and the north east out preform the south in all those areas???"

You have been grossly mislead...but not to worry, I aim to enlighten the confused and uninformed. Make no mistake about it, it is "your people" who must ride the backs of taxpayers in order to eat and survive. "Your people" are like human pets to us...haha
Your welcome in advance.
21.3% of US Participates in Government Assistance Programs Each Month
Who Participated in Welfare?
The black population: At 41.6 percent, blacks were more likely to participate in government assistance programs in an average month.
The black participation rate was followed by Hispanics at 36.4 percent, Asians or Pacific Islanders at 17.8 percent, and non-Hispanic whites at 13.2 percent.

California - 12% of the nations population, 33% of the nations welfare recipients
Note that Hawaii and New York are fighting CA for that number one spot....also note all three are blue states. Here you go:
It Looks Like Red States Take Most in Federal 'Welfare' from this Map. But Looks Can Be Deceiving.
California’s Welfare Benefits: Boom or Bust?
"There has been much discussion about immigrants in the United States from everywhere around the world. Yet, why is it that California seems to attract the most immigrants of any state? Indeed, while the state is only 12% of the nation’s population, it is home to 33% of welfare residents. According to a report published by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) on January 26, 2015, there is a correlation between generous welfare benefits and an increase in immigration.

In total, California outspends every other state in public welfare spending – in 2014, it spent $22.4 billion. In contrast, the next closest state, New York, spent $11.9 billion. That being said, does this make California a magnet for immigrants? Not necessarily. It is more of an anchor – a reason why residents stay for long periods of time in the state. However, to deny that there is no magnet would be incorrect. According to George J. Borjas, the Robert W. Scrivner Professor of Economics and Social Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and the author of the aforementioned report, the reason as to why people decide to relocate is due to “income-maximizing behavior.” Immigrants have already accepted that there are certain fixed costs that are inevitable because of migration, so it is natural that they will flock towards the places with the highest benefits. Empirical evidence suggests that it is because of these differences that there are an increasingly disproportionate number of immigrants among states. While there is the possibility of alternative explanations for this phenomenon, the conclusion that Borjas draws using the wealth-maximization hypothesis is one such testable method.

However, upon closer examination, on a per-capita basis, California’s seemingly generous benefits pale in data comparison to other states. For example, it spends approximately $179 for every resident, behind $233 in Hawaii and $256 in New York. Furthermore, approximately 8.9% of California residents live in poverty, the highest of any state. Despite this, the number of people immigrating to California increases exponentially each year."

I'm really excited about the chance to answer your question about the South .....

Southern states were under Democrat control for just about 130 years, until the people threw off the yoke of tradition and ignorance and began the transfer to conservatism. Therefore, the arc of southern states continues to move rapidly in an upward direction, while those states that USED to be Republican are dying on the vine (can you hear me now, California?)

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

Those private hospitals are great, I'm sure, but they sure are more expensive than most of the population can afford. So explain to me again how our current healthcare system is accessible to all? People can't afford to visit a hospital when they've got Obamacare--their $10,000 + deductibles are prohibitive. Same with doctor's visits. Kimmel as a father has every right to tear up relating the close call his newborn went through. You guys slamming "emotion" vs. "logic" aren't doing so hot when it comes to finding an actual solution to the problem, though. More and more people can't afford to visit doctors. Fix it.

St Jude childrens hospital provides treatments for free, and they provide housing for the parents.
Supported with donations.
The difference being, conservatives give to charity, leftists do not.

St. Jude's is wonderful, but I did not know it was 100% a conservative organization. No leftists are allowed to contribute, huh? I thought it was a Mason's hospital. Am I confusing it with another one?

Definitely!

 

[Wyatt earp]

CapitalCare, the really capitalist insurance company.

You = good risk, we ran you genetics and we monitor your lifestyle. No smoking, drinking, dangerous shit, fast driving, drugs, fucking around etc. You get covered, until you get sick or break even one rule that is. Then you get bounced, pronto.

You = cancer, bad genes, already sick, other per-existing condition, bad risk, family history of anything expensive to treat, female, old, young, poor, etc. Go fuck yourself off to the charity hospital, Bloodsucker. We aren't in business to lose money on your sick sorry ass.

Natural selection..


Liberals with all there good deeds are letting stupid genes reproduce and bankrupting America


.

 

[P@triot]

And remember, the UK is capitalist but has socialized medicine, as does Sweden, Germany, France, and the rest of the modern Western world. We are the only nation unable to grow up

We are the only nation in the world $20 trillion in debt. You're unable to grow up and renounce your immature ideology.

 

[P@triot]

Winning isn't the problem when most can't even get to the track.

Oh Lord...more of the emotional false narrative. Everyone is a victim. Nothing is fair. Everyone throw themselves to the ground and whail like a liberal in college. Thank you for proving the premise of this thread, snowflake.

 

[P@triot]

And remember, the UK is capitalist but has socialized medicine, as does Sweden, Germany, France, and the rest of the modern Western world. We are the only nation unable to grow up

Yet despite your love and admiration for these nations, we all notice your refusal to run off and live in them. You're inaction speaks volumes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Jimmy Kimmel made an emotional appeal, therefore liberals are emotional and conservatives are logical.

Did I understand your conservative logic correctly?

Just the latest example. He lied about everything in his tear-filled monologue.

The man has insurance. He got his facts wrong, because he's not one of the uninsured. Sure the parents could get open heart surgery for their newborn, and they would then declare bankruptcy and pay the hospital for the rest of their lives.

You don't know how bankruptcy works, do you?

 

[P@triot]

Conservatives view rational emotion as weakness when it is normal life.

Actually, conservatives simply recognize that emotion makes for bad policy. There should be zero emotion in legislation. Government doesn't exist for sympathy. Only logic and reason should be used in public policy - for the good of society.

There is most definitely a place for emotion in life (family, the football field, etc.). Legislation just isn't one of them, snowflake.

 

[TheDude]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

For the most part, that private charity comes from the mega-wealthy & their efforts to raise money.

And yes, your title is absolutely correct. This is why conservatives are generally more practical and rational, and liberals generally better artists & irrational.

 

[RightyTighty]

And remember, the UK is capitalist but has socialized medicine, as does Sweden, Germany, France, and the rest of the modern Western world. We are the only nation unable to grow up

Yet despite your love and admiration for these nations, we all notice your refusal to run off and live in them. You're inaction speaks volumes.

I'm an American, dirtbag, and I'm more than happy to leave America to dumbshits like you to live in misery in, when I'm damn good and ready, not a second before. Deal with it, Snowflake.

 

[P@triot]

The man has insurance. He got his facts wrong, because he's not one of the uninsured. Sure the parents could get open heart surgery for their newborn, and they would then declare bankruptcy and pay the hospital for the rest of their lives.

And? So it is your contention that it is society's problem and as such, the U.S. as a whole should go bankrupt? How does that make any sense?