Right wing militia detains 200 migrants at gun point on New Mexico!! HELL YEAH!

[Porter Rockwell]

"Our" permission... or YOUR permission? You just identified where the disconnect is.

Under the Constitution the federal government has but one area of jurisdiction here: naturalization. Naturalization = citizenship. Who the state invites is their business.

Liberal states, like California, deliberately abuse the right. So, the better option is to allow them to create their own Hell and let the protect other states from paying for it.

California has Sanctuary Cities. It's of no concern to me. Maybe when states start resisting federal Red Flag Laws, you might understand the principle.

Without out* our permission is an invasion.


And who cares who hires them ,,, it’s an invasion.. they should be put down


I work in a restaurant in Boston the entire back of the house is illegal.. with a high black unemployment rate.. the invasion is killing America

According to Donald Trump, we are at a statistical zero unemployment rate. That would be anything under 4 percent. If someone hired the foreigner, someone rented to them, and businesses do business with them, they must have THEIR permission. If the states are telling the feds to butt out, the foreigners must have permission.

We might not like it, but that's reality.

Who is "they" in your post?

The word "they" isn't in the post. What is it you have a concern with?

Are you really so stupid, that you can't make a connection between your use of "their" and my use of "they"?


Or are you just playing really stupid games?

You are the one playing games. I can't read your freaking mind. Do you have a specific question?

 

[Wry Catcher]

New Mexico militia detains migrants at gunpoint until Border Patrol arrives: report


Let’s get it going! Which one of you coward democrats want to stop us!?

Are you claiming to be a member of the vigilante group noted in your link, above?

If so, and you pointed a firearm at any of the migrants you've committed a crime, to wit:

Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-3-1 (2017)
30-3-1. Assault.

Assault consists of either:

A. an attempt to commit a battery upon the person of another;

B. any unlawful act, threat or menacing conduct which causes another person to reasonably believe that he is in danger of receiving an immediate battery; or

C. the use of insulting language toward another impugning his honor, delicacy or reputation.

Whoever commits assault is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

History: 1953 Comp., 40A-3-1, enacted by Laws 1963, ch. 303, 3-1.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Still, you have failed to find any legal citation for your beliefs. When Americans are WILLINGLY hiring these foreigners, it does not and I mean factually not meet the definition of an invasion.

It's in the Constitution. Defense of the nation itself is one of the prime duties of the federal government.
Is this something you disagree with? Is this not a fact? Are you contesting this simple well known truth?

And Porter baby, if you think Americans are offering jobs for every one of the tens of thousands of people who have
made the long trip from Central America to the Southern border and all they have to do is walk on over and claim these
jobs as landscapers, janitors, bus boys, etc. then you are fooling yourself, but no one else.

Whether Americans are willingly seeking illegals who will work for next to nothing is immaterial.
You still need legal permission to reside or work here. Period! Now buzz off with your nonsense.

You're making a claim you cannot substantiate. If the governor of a state says no state of emergency exists, like it or not, it does not exist and no invasion is taking place.

I'm not making any claim about jobs one way or another; it is the wallists who want to throw a lot of skeet on the wall (no pun intended) and see what sticks. One of their socialist solutions is to punish employers who hire the employee of their choice.

The problem you have with this permission argument is that you cannot find any constitutional authority for it. Would you like me explain the illegal manner the feds ended up claiming they could pass unconstitutional laws relative to this issue?

Sorry dude, but unless the foreigner is seeking to become a citizen, you're pretty much S.O.L. The United States Supreme Court has already ruled. It is not a crime for a deportable alien to remain in the United States. It does not stand to reason that an American should be punished for doing business with them... AND if you're honest, the feds have NO constitutional jurisdiction over any foreigner a state gives sanctuary state to. Don't draw conclusions about how I may or may not feel for sharing the reality of the situation with you.

1. If anyone says that this issue is not a crisis, they are either fools or liars.

2. If an illegal alien is here is violation of a law, then it is a crime for the illegal alien go be here. If being here is a violation of a law, or numerous laws, than the breaking of those laws are CRIMES.

1) Where is the crisis? We have statistical zero unemployment and a nation that does not revere its culture? I'd fight to the death to protect your Right to believe anything you like; however, if the highest elected official in a state disagrees with you, I have to concede you are wrong in your opinion since perception is reality and that governor's perception is reality until he or she leaves office

2) Ruling by the United States Supreme Court:

"§1227. Removal is a civil matter, and one of its principal features is the broad discretion exercised by immigration officials, who must decide whether to pursue removal at all.

...it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain in the United States." Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012)

You are arguing with the United States Supreme Court, not me.

1. Perception is not reality, and that governor is at best a fool and at worst a traitor.

2. The Supreme Court has been wrong before, and it is wrong again. DEPORT THE FUCKING ILLEGALS. How hard is that to understand?

1) Most psychologists would disagree with you:



2) While I agree that the United States Supreme Court is wrong on a lot of issues, my perception as yours is NOT reality. The fact that the high Court legislates from the bench IS reality. It's not constitutional, but it is reality. The United States Supreme Court says that undocumented foreigners being in the United States is not a crime.

Given that holding and working within the parameters of the law, the foreigner is in civil violation of the law, but an American that hires them is committing a criminal felony. You want to uphold such B.S.? Shame on you!

The employer owns the job he / she creates. Under the Constitution, that employer has committed NO crime as the federal government has NO jurisdiction over who the state allows to stay within that state's respective border.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

1) Where is the crisis? We have statistical zero unemployment and a nation that does not revere its culture? I'd fight to the death to protect your Right to believe anything you like; however, if the highest elected official in a state disagrees with you, I have to concede you are wrong in your opinion since perception is reality and that governor's perception is reality until he or she leaves office

Oh....really? Some people would call that an autocracy.
The crisis comes in when a nation takes in millions of of people with no allegiance to a nation except the free stuff they can get from it.
And whoever gives them more free things gets their votes. The crisis comes when policies like sanctuary policy are promoted by people like you that ignore what's best for the country and pervert the law. And you just couldn't give a crap, could you.

If you truly believe the governor is the highest authority in the state so the rule of law is whatever she thinks it is then you must also believe that Lester Maddox and George Wallace were completely acting properly when they wanted to continue with their segregated society that had one society for whites and one lesser society for colored folks....because that's what they wanted.

Michelle Lujan Grisham may wield her power inside her fiefdom as if she were the last word on the law but experience and common sense shows that doesn't make her rule proper or good for the nation.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

They held them for bp. That doesn't always happen. There are actually those that will kill them, knowing it is damn near impossible to get caught.

fix the border already, it's the right thing to do

What is wrong with repelling an invading horde of diseased criminals from our country? If killing a few thousand stops the migration, that would be a good thing...Those that die in the desert are far worse, so show those who are willing to make the arduous trek, that it isnt worth it, and save even more lives, by killing a few...The needs of the many out way the needs of the few.

We do not have to condone murder. ever.

Murder isnt defending your borders from diseases that want to cross into our country and kill US. Murder isnt defending yourself from criminals with the intent to rape our women and kill US. Is it really that hard to see why we need to "Shoot" people who shouldn't belong here? They are dying in the 10 of 1000s crossing into areas that will kill them anyway. Why aren't we just euthanizing them out of their misery...Call it "Post Birth Abortions"..​

“Thou shalt not kill.”
-God


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Yeah and you shouldn't own slaves either. Fuck you dumbass, the original wording of the King James Edition before it got all PC'd was "thou shalt not MURDER", because when you go look at the old testament, there was a whole lot of killing going on, because the Israelites needed to clear space so the new order could take over. Not only did the Israelites kill men, but women, children and all animals in some places, but that was warfare. Dont preach to me dick wad about the bible, mostly because you never read the thing, just site what your liberal media tells you.

Bible List Of The Ten Commandments

6 “You shall not murder.

Again, we are being invaded by scum of the earth from shithole countries. You fagots on the left want to turn this Great country into a 3rd world shithole, then you can be right at home, while the liberal elites chew on fatty steaks and drink Brandy. You just cant get more stupid than a damn liberal..

 

[Porter Rockwell]

1) Where is the crisis? We have statistical zero unemployment and a nation that does not revere its culture? I'd fight to the death to protect your Right to believe anything you like; however, if the highest elected official in a state disagrees with you, I have to concede you are wrong in your opinion since perception is reality and that governor's perception is reality until he or she leaves office

Oh....
really? Some people call that an autocracy.

If you truly believe the governor is the highest authority in the state and the rule of law is whatever she thinks it is then you must also believe that Lester Maddox and George Wallace were completely acting properly when they wanted to continue with their segregated society that had one society for whites and one lesser society for colored folks.

Michelle Lujan Grisham may wield her power inside her fiefdom as if she were the last word on the law but experience and common sense shows that doesn't make her rule proper or good for the nation.

If governors are acting in their official capacity, in accordance with their state Constitution, and not in violation of the Constitution then they have the power.

Virtually every wallist thinks that Donald Trump's word is the word of God. If Trump declares a national emergency, then his proselytes say such an emergency exists. If Trump unilaterally bans Muslims from entering the United States, his proselytes say it is lawful. It doesn't make it so.

Trump is the head of the Executive branch of government at the federal level. The governor of each state is head of Executive branch of government in that state. Trump cannot simply over-rule a state because he is at the head of the federal executive branch of government since states have rights and the federal government is limited by the Constitution.

As for the politicians you mentioned, I'd have to look at their actions on a case by case basis. Personally, I believe that the 14th Amendment was illegally ratified. So, IF Lester Maddox and / or George Wallace thought they had a case, they should have challenged the legality of the 14th Amendment. Did they? I have no idea.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

2) Ruling by the United States Supreme Court:

"§1227. Removal is a civil matter, and one of its principal features is the broad discretion exercised by immigration officials, who must decide whether to pursue removal at all.

Michelle Lujan Grisham or Gavin Newsom are not immigration officials. What is your point?

...it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain in the United States." Arizona v. United States, 567 U.S. 387 (2012)

You are arguing with the United States Supreme Court, not me.

That's an out of context cherry picked sentence which doesn't address illegal aliens, I noticed. It's meaningless in the bigger picture.
How about if tens of millions of removable aliens are simply left to dwell in America as a festering parasitic boil on the backs of citizens?

 

[Godboy]

New Mexico militia detains migrants at gunpoint until Border Patrol arrives: report


Let’s get it going! Which one of you coward democrats want to stop us!?

Rightwing fear, hate, and bigotry.

It worked didnt it? Youre welcome.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

1) Where is the crisis? We have statistical zero unemployment and a nation that does not revere its culture? I'd fight to the death to protect your Right to believe anything you like; however, if the highest elected official in a state disagrees with you, I have to concede you are wrong in your opinion since perception is reality and that governor's perception is reality until he or she leaves office

Oh....
really? Some people call that an autocracy.

If you truly believe the governor is the highest authority in the state and the rule of law is whatever she thinks it is then you must also believe that Lester Maddox and George Wallace were completely acting properly when they wanted to continue with their segregated society that had one society for whites and one lesser society for colored folks.

Michelle Lujan Grisham may wield her power inside her fiefdom as if she were the last word on the law but experience and common sense shows that doesn't make her rule proper or good for the nation.

If governors are acting in their official capacity, in accordance with their state Constitution, and not in violation of the Constitution then they have the power.

Virtually every wallist thinks that Donald Trump's word is the word of God. If Trump declares a national emergency, then his proselytes say such an emergency exists. If Trump unilaterally bans Muslims from entering the United States, his proselytes say it is lawful. It doesn't make it so.

Trump is the head of the Executive branch of government at the federal level. The governor of each state is head of Executive branch of government in that state. Trump cannot simply over-rule a state because he is at the head of the federal executive branch of government since states have rights and the federal government is limited by the Constitution.

As for the politicians you mentioned, I'd have to look at their actions on a case by case basis. Personally, I believe that the 14th Amendment was illegally ratified. So, IF Lester Maddox and / or George Wallace thought they had a case, they should have challenged the legality of the 14th Amendment. Did they? I have no idea.

So what Obama did to the state of Arizona was against the law?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/06/AR2010070601928.html?noredirect=on

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

If governors are acting in their official capacity, in accordance with their state Constitution, and not in violation of the Constitution then they have the power.

Virtually every wallist thinks that Donald Trump's word is the word of God. If Trump declares a national emergency, then his proselytes say such an emergency exists. If Trump unilaterally bans Muslims from entering the United States, his proselytes say it is lawful. It doesn't make it so.

Trump did unilaterally temporarily ban some Muslims from entry to this nation and it was upheld by the Supreme Court you seem to venerate (but not always, it looks like). So yes...it was lawful.

Trump is the head of the Executive branch of government at the federal level. The governor of each state is head of Executive branch of government in that state. Trump cannot simply over-rule a state because he is at the head of the federal executive branch of government since states have rights and the federal government is limited by the Constitution.

As for the politicians you mentioned, I'd have to look at their actions on a case by case basis. Personally, I believe that the 14th Amendment was illegally ratified. So, IF Lester Maddox and / or George Wallace thought they had a case, they should have challenged the legality of the 14th Amendment. Did they? I have no idea.

This is not a contest between Donald Trump and the governor of New Mexico, or any other state. The chaos crime and confusion is indeed an emergency and even Jeh Johnson has admitted as much.

The Southern border is a gateway for drugs, gangs, human trafficking and illegal immigration. If none of that matters to you just say so and we can immediately dismiss anything you say on the matter (which I do for the most part anyway as blather).

 

[Jitss617]

New Mexico militia detains migrants at gunpoint until Border Patrol arrives: report


Let’s get it going! Which one of you coward democrats want to stop us!?

Are you claiming to be a member of the vigilante group noted in your link, above?

If so, and you pointed a firearm at any of the migrants you've committed a crime, to wit:

Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-3-1 (2017)
30-3-1. Assault.

Assault consists of either:

A. an attempt to commit a battery upon the person of another;

B. any unlawful act, threat or menacing conduct which causes another person to reasonably believe that he is in danger of receiving an immediate battery; or

C. the use of insulting language toward another impugning his honor, delicacy or reputation.

Whoever commits assault is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

History: 1953 Comp., 40A-3-1, enacted by Laws 1963, ch. 303, 3-1.

So now you want to prosecute Americans for pointing a pistol at people invading this country you are a sick disgusting anti-american .. I wish you luck hiding

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Actually no. There quota for Europeans is never filled.
They just do not want to come here.
They consider the US to be rude, noisy, crass, without taste, no sense of history, family, or values, and way to expensive and unjust.
Can't say I disagree with them either.
We don't even have public health care or mass transit, so we really are barbarians in most ways.
We still even have executions.

That's bullshit. Tons of Eastern Europeans (Poles, Ukrainians, Czechs, etc.) would kill to get here along with Irish,
Romanians and Austrians. You are the worst sort of liar passing off your biased b.s. as if it were fact. Feel free to leave the country if it displeases you.

 

[Pilot1]

New Mexico militia detains migrants at gunpoint until Border Patrol arrives: report


Let’s get it going! Which one of you coward democrats want to stop us!?

Are you claiming to be a member of the vigilante group noted in your link, above?

If so, and you pointed a firearm at any of the migrants you've committed a crime, to wit:

Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-3-1 (2017)
30-3-1. Assault.

Assault consists of either:

A. an attempt to commit a battery upon the person of another;

B. any unlawful act, threat or menacing conduct which causes another person to reasonably believe that he is in danger of receiving an immediate battery; or

C. the use of insulting language toward another impugning his honor, delicacy or reputation.

Whoever commits assault is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

History: 1953 Comp., 40A-3-1, enacted by Laws 1963, ch. 303, 3-1.

So now you want to prosecute Americans for pointing a pistol at people invading this country you are a sick disgusting anti-american .. I wish you luck hiding

The militia didn't even point their guns at the Illegal Invaders. The media invented that.

 

[Jitss617]

New Mexico militia detains migrants at gunpoint until Border Patrol arrives: report


Let’s get it going! Which one of you coward democrats want to stop us!?

Are you claiming to be a member of the vigilante group noted in your link, above?

If so, and you pointed a firearm at any of the migrants you've committed a crime, to wit:

Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-3-1 (2017)
30-3-1. Assault.

Assault consists of either:

A. an attempt to commit a battery upon the person of another;

B. any unlawful act, threat or menacing conduct which causes another person to reasonably believe that he is in danger of receiving an immediate battery; or

C. the use of insulting language toward another impugning his honor, delicacy or reputation.

Whoever commits assault is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

History: 1953 Comp., 40A-3-1, enacted by Laws 1963, ch. 303, 3-1.

So now you want to prosecute Americans for pointing a pistol at people invading this country you are a sick disgusting anti-american .. I wish you luck hiding

The militia didn't even point their guns at the Illegal Invaders. The media invented that.

Who cares if we did.. are we now this divided we try to jail fellow Americans for trying to protect its borders..

 

[Mr Natural]

So sad that none of you militia assholes got to shoot any body.

Maybe next time.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The militia didn't even point their guns at the Illegal Invaders. The media invented that.

I'm sure some insufferable prick from Columbia or MIddlebury journalism school probably wrote up that "fact" from the vantage point at his desk at AP or Yahoo news.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

So sad that none of you militia assholes got to shoot any body.

Maybe next time.

Yeah, maybe someone like you.

 

[McRocket]

A member of an armed group detaining migrants at the border has been arrested by the FBI

A member of an armed group detaining migrants at the border has been arrested by the FBI - CNN

 

[Jitss617]

So sad that none of you militia assholes got to shoot any body.

Maybe next time.

What you don’t know won’t hurt you lol

 

[Wry Catcher]

New Mexico militia detains migrants at gunpoint until Border Patrol arrives: report


Let’s get it going! Which one of you coward democrats want to stop us!?

Are you claiming to be a member of the vigilante group noted in your link, above?

If so, and you pointed a firearm at any of the migrants you've committed a crime, to wit:

Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-3-1 (2017)
30-3-1. Assault.

Assault consists of either:

A. an attempt to commit a battery upon the person of another;

B. any unlawful act, threat or menacing conduct which causes another person to reasonably believe that he is in danger of receiving an immediate battery; or

C. the use of insulting language toward another impugning his honor, delicacy or reputation.

Whoever commits assault is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

History: 1953 Comp., 40A-3-1, enacted by Laws 1963, ch. 303, 3-1.

So now you want to prosecute Americans for pointing a pistol at people invading this country you are a sick disgusting anti-american .. I wish you luck hiding

The militia didn't even point their guns at the Illegal Invaders. The media invented that.

Who cares if we did.. are we now this divided we try to jail fellow Americans for trying to protect its borders..

In all due respect to you, you're nuts.