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I really hate to reopen this stupid thread. But I saw this and it supports what many said about where gay marriage will lead:
Polygamy advocates hail judge's ruling in Utah
If I understand correctly, the only thing the polygamists gained was that the prohibition against cohabitation was overturned.
step one in legalizing polygamy
Your party is stuck w/ them. 
The "gay shit" or as most of us call it, equal rights for the GLBT community is a winner for the Democrats. The GOP would be well served to "let it go" of course but history has shown that they won't.
How the GOP can want this division based on legal behavior to stand but claim that others are divisive is is a source of bemusement for any observer.
The "gay shit" or as most of us call it, equal rights for the GLBT community is a winner for the Democrats. The GOP would be well served to "let it go" of course but history has shown that they won't.
How the GOP can want this division based on legal behavior to stand but claim that others are divisive is is a source of bemusement for any observer.
Whats sad is that this is an issue at all.
Check your christian morality bullshit at the door and LEARN to pick your fights. Gays are a minute voting block but they DO have the support of many others.
Losing elections over trivial bullshit that only affects a few people while the debt and everything else spirals out of control makes no sense.
Lets focus on the things that matter to everyone and stop picking fights that alienate us over small things.
Sin is sin for believers so stop bitching about what Sally does with her tongue when Johnny is no better off when he envies the Harley in his neighbors garage.
If they want to partake in the hell aka marriage give it to them. It's a piece of fucking paper ultimately.
In other words - fuck principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?
Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of fucking paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.
The "gay shit" or as most of us call it, equal rights for the GLBT community is a winner for the Democrats. The GOP would be well served to "let it go" of course but history has shown that they won't.
How the GOP can want this division based on legal behavior to stand but claim that others are divisive is is a source of bemusement for any observer.
Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.
I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology.
Check your christian morality bullshit at the door and LEARN to pick your fights. Gays are a minute voting block but they DO have the support of many others.
Losing elections over trivial bullshit that only affects a few people while the debt and everything else spirals out of control makes no sense.
Lets focus on the things that matter to everyone and stop picking fights that alienate us over small things.
Sin is sin for believers so stop bitching about what Sally does with her tongue when Johnny is no better off when he envies the Harley in his neighbors garage.
If they want to partake in the hell aka marriage give it to them. It's a piece of fucking paper ultimately.
In other words - fuck principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?
Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of fucking paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.
Is this truly a republican principle, to deny citizens their civil liberties?
Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.
In other words - fuck principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?
Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of fucking paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.
Is this truly a republican principle, to deny citizens their civil liberties?
Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.
Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.
I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?
Is this truly a republican principle, to deny citizens their civil liberties?
Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.
Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.
I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?
Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.
Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.
I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?
Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.
In other words - fuck principle, it's time to bend over and prostitute yourself like the Dumbicrats do in order to win elections at all costs? The ends justify the means, just like the liberals who rape their their man-hating misandrist women at Occupy Wall Street movements?
Furthermore, if you believe that marriage is "a piece of fucking paper ultimately" then you are unquestionably one of the most ignorant people here on USMB. You clearly do not understand the issue (like Dumbocrats!). I just lost all respect for you [MENTION=30538]Grampa Murked U[/MENTION]. You're the John-Boehner-liberal-Republican who conservatives need to purge from the party. And believe me, we will.
Is this truly a republican principle, to deny citizens their civil liberties?
Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.
Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.
I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?
Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.
Is this truly a republican principle, to deny citizens their civil liberties?
Or is this the new republican principle of fear and reactionaryism.
Every American citizen has equal rights. Are gay people denied their free speech? No. Are gay people denied their right to bear arms? No. Are gay people denied their freedom of religion? No.
I could go on and on, but this is more than enough to prove your post is a desperate attempt to garner support for a failed ideology. Would you like to try again CCJ?
So if CA decided to pass by initiative a law that prevented all Lutherans from legal marriage, you'd be okay with that?
Marriage is a fundamental right. And people like you are trying (and beginning to fail) to prevent your fellow law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that fundamental right based on gender.
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.
The Supreme Court does not get to alter the Constitution. They do not get to add rights. It really is that simple.
The Constitution can only be altered through the amendment process. Would you like to try again?
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.
The fact that you are required to obtain a license from the state proves it is not a right. The Supreme Court is not authorized to alter the Constitution. Their ruling in a single case means absolutely nothing outside of that case. They are not empowered to alter the Constitution.
First of all, marriage is not a "right" (try reading the Constitution just once before commenting on rights). It is not - nor has it ever been - a "right". Why do you think you have to get a marriage license from the state? Rights do not require government-approved licenses. Join us in reality, won't you? Please? Just once?
Second, a gay woman has every freedom to marry a man as a straight woman does. A gay man has ever freedom to marry a woman that a straight man does. Gays have never been denied anything in this country. Again - reality is calling. Won't you please answer so we can move USMB discussions into mature, sane, accurate threads?
Marriage is a fundamental right. The Supreme Court has set that precedent in such rulings as Loving v Virginia. You may not like it, but it's a legal fact.
The fact that you are required to obtain a license from the state proves it is not a right. The Supreme Court is not authorized to alter the Constitution. Their ruling in a single case means absolutely nothing outside of that case. They are not empowered to alter the Constitution.
