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Differences I see in the two events:
1. RNC-one person acting alone. DNC-approved by the organization.
2. RNC-removed in five days. DNC-Still there.
3. RNC-disrepects a group. DNC-disrepects patriots and military.
What is the same:
1. Meant to support hate.
2. The group in the wrong tries to see no wrong.
3. Excuses.
Differences I see in the two events:
1. RNC-one person acting alone. DNC-approved by the organization.
2. RNC-removed in five days. DNC-Still there.
3. RNC-disrepects a group. DNC-disrepects patriots and military.
What is the same:
1. Meant to support hate.
2. The group in the wrong tries to see no wrong.
3. Excuses.
see that is what i don't get, but i am german, and germans have a certain history with national symbols, i see them as a net negative.
why is smearing a flag disrespecting the military?
the metaphor is clear: certain methods of opposition to health care reform and the current state of health care situation smears america symbolized by the flag, according to the vid author.
Differences I see in the two events:
1. RNC-one person acting alone. DNC-approved by the organization.
2. RNC-removed in five days. DNC-Still there.
3. RNC-disrepects a group. DNC-disrepects patriots and military.
What is the same:
1. Meant to support hate.
2. The group in the wrong tries to see no wrong.
3. Excuses.
see that is what i don't get, but i am german, and germans have a certain history with national symbols, i see them as a net negative.
why is smearing a flag disrespecting the military?
the metaphor is clear: certain methods of opposition to health care reform and the current state of health care situation smears america symbolized by the flag, according to the vid author.
The Flag-Folding Ceremony
Differences I see in the two events:
1. RNC-one person acting alone. DNC-approved by the organization.
2. RNC-removed in five days. DNC-Still there.
3. RNC-disrepects a group. DNC-disrepects patriots and military.
What is the same:
1. Meant to support hate.
2. The group in the wrong tries to see no wrong.
3. Excuses.
see that is what i don't get, but i am german, and germans have a certain history with national symbols, i see them as a net negative.
why is smearing a flag disrespecting the military?
the metaphor is clear: certain methods of opposition to health care reform and the current state of health care situation smears america symbolized by the flag, according to the vid author.
The Flag-Folding Ceremony
thanks, i already spent some time on that site to learn if a painting of a flag on a wall counts as a flag. what was clear, is that the flag code is violated every fucking day in american life, at the start of every football game, where a flag is displayed horizontally, when it is worn, stepped on, signed, not taken in at night, or not properly illuminated at night. not replaced when dirty or torn, thrown into the garbage instead of retired following the rules, etc.
this is selective outrage. and my question why you specially included the military after already mentioning patriots was not answered. every citizen can do the flag folding ceremony with their own flag, or am i wrong here?
In the US the flag is important, because of it's history and meaning. Many countries inherited their flags ... usually from controlling regimes many centuries ago, but ours we took time to look at it, time to design it to show exactly what our country stands for. Each color, the stripes, and the stars mean something to us. It's not just a symbol of our country, but a symbol of what our country stands and exists for.
see that is what i don't get, but i am german, and germans have a certain history with national symbols, i see them as a net negative.
why is smearing a flag disrespecting the military?
the metaphor is clear: certain methods of opposition to health care reform and the current state of health care situation smears america symbolized by the flag, according to the vid author.
The Flag-Folding Ceremony
thanks, i already spent some time on that site to learn if a painting of a flag on a wall counts as a flag. what was clear, is that the flag code is violated every fucking day in american life, at the start of every football game, where a flag is displayed horizontally, when it is worn, stepped on, signed, not taken in at night, or not properly illuminated at night. not replaced when dirty or torn, thrown into the garbage instead of retired following the rules, etc.
this is selective outrage. and my question why you specially included the military after already mentioning patriots was not answered. every citizen can do the flag folding ceremony with their own flag, or am i wrong here?
In the US the flag is important, because of it's history and meaning. Many countries inherited their flags ... usually from controlling regimes many centuries ago, but ours we took time to look at it, time to design it to show exactly what our country stands for. Each color, the stripes, and the stars mean something to us. It's not just a symbol of our country, but a symbol of what our country stands and exists for.
the history of the design of the stars and stripes is very similar to the stories of other flag designs, and as you said most of the time flags are adaptations of previously used ones.
case in point:
no american exceptionalism.
thanks, i already spent some time on that site to learn if a painting of a flag on a wall counts as a flag. what was clear, is that the flag code is violated every fucking day in american life, at the start of every football game, where a flag is displayed horizontally, when it is worn, stepped on, signed, not taken in at night, or not properly illuminated at night. not replaced when dirty or torn, thrown into the garbage instead of retired following the rules, etc.
this is selective outrage. and my question why you specially included the military after already mentioning patriots was not answered. every citizen can do the flag folding ceremony with their own flag, or am i wrong here?
Multiple wrongs still don't justify these actions. Yes, everyone is suppose to follow the flag folding procedure. Most military personnel are patriots. Patriots may not be military personnel however. I think both topics on this thread are selective. You asked why smearing the flag was an afront to the military. I thought my source did a nice job of explaining. Apparently you were aware of the reasons, because you mentioned reading from that site already. It would seem to make your question disingenuous.
I am only suggesting the DNC should pull their video on the basis it demeans the flag, fosters hate which they frequently use as a reason the RNC is bad and does not raise the level of debate on health care coverage. Further, it was produced in order to raise money for the DNC. It was the best a contest could offer for that cause apparently.
In the US the flag is important, because of it's history and meaning. Many countries inherited their flags ... usually from controlling regimes many centuries ago, but ours we took time to look at it, time to design it to show exactly what our country stands for. Each color, the stripes, and the stars mean something to us. It's not just a symbol of our country, but a symbol of what our country stands and exists for.
the history of the design of the stars and stripes is very similar to the stories of other flag designs, and as you said most of the time flags are adaptations of previously used ones.
case in point:
no american exceptionalism.
Notice I said "many", not all. I was just explaining why the flag is so important to people in our country, not trying to belittle others.
USFlag.org: A website dedicated to the Flag of the United States of America - What do the colors of the Flag mean?
"The colors of the pales (the vertical stripes) are those used in the flag of the United States of America; White signifies purity and innocence, Red, hardiness & valour, and Blue, the color of the Chief (the broad band above the stripes) signifies vigilance, perseverance & justice."
The meanings to these colors were defined when the seal for congress was created, but:
"The star is a symbol of the heavens and the divine goal to which man has aspired from time immemorial; the stripe is symbolic of the rays of light emanating from the sun."
History of American Flag | USA Flag Site
In school we get a very watered down version of this (well did when I was in school) ... but this is the summary:
"Today the flag consists of thirteen horizontal stripes, seven red alternating with 6 white. The stripes represent the original 13 colonies, the stars represent the 50 states of the Union. The colors of the flag are symbolic as well: Red symbolizes Hardiness and Valor, White symbolizes Purity and Innocence and Blue represents Vigilance, Perseverance and Justice."
After all it's changes. Our country started with nothing but the flag, it is the very first piece of our history, we are a very young country after all. Everything prior to the flag's history was actually part of England's history, not ours.
thanks, i already spent some time on that site to learn if a painting of a flag on a wall counts as a flag. what was clear, is that the flag code is violated every fucking day in american life, at the start of every football game, where a flag is displayed horizontally, when it is worn, stepped on, signed, not taken in at night, or not properly illuminated at night. not replaced when dirty or torn, thrown into the garbage instead of retired following the rules, etc.
this is selective outrage. and my question why you specially included the military after already mentioning patriots was not answered. every citizen can do the flag folding ceremony with their own flag, or am i wrong here?
Multiple wrongs still don't justify these actions. Yes, everyone is suppose to follow the flag folding procedure. Most military personnel are patriots. Patriots may not be military personnel however. I think both topics on this thread are selective. You asked why smearing the flag was an afront to the military. I thought my source did a nice job of explaining. Apparently you were aware of the reasons, because you mentioned reading from that site already. It would seem to make your question disingenuous.
I am only suggesting the DNC should pull their video on the basis it demeans the flag, fosters hate which they frequently use as a reason the RNC is bad and does not raise the level of debate on health care coverage. Further, it was produced in order to raise money for the DNC. It was the best a contest could offer for that cause apparently.
Hey leave sitarro alone! He's not racist, he has a black dude in his avatar!
shit, he is off the hook, as are you.
i am still up shit creek.
No, no .. I'm still the racist. I have the black guy in my avatar because I want to fuck basketball players or something or other.
the history of the design of the stars and stripes is very similar to the stories of other flag designs, and as you said most of the time flags are adaptations of previously used ones.
case in point:
no american exceptionalism.
Notice I said "many", not all. I was just explaining why the flag is so important to people in our country, not trying to belittle others.
USFlag.org: A website dedicated to the Flag of the United States of America - What do the colors of the Flag mean?
"The colors of the pales (the vertical stripes) are those used in the flag of the United States of America; White signifies purity and innocence, Red, hardiness & valour, and Blue, the color of the Chief (the broad band above the stripes) signifies vigilance, perseverance & justice."
The meanings to these colors were defined when the seal for congress was created, but:
"The star is a symbol of the heavens and the divine goal to which man has aspired from time immemorial; the stripe is symbolic of the rays of light emanating from the sun."
History of American Flag | USA Flag Site
In school we get a very watered down version of this (well did when I was in school) ... but this is the summary:
"Today the flag consists of thirteen horizontal stripes, seven red alternating with 6 white. The stripes represent the original 13 colonies, the stars represent the 50 states of the Union. The colors of the flag are symbolic as well: Red symbolizes Hardiness and Valor, White symbolizes Purity and Innocence and Blue represents Vigilance, Perseverance and Justice."
After all it's changes. Our country started with nothing but the flag, it is the very first piece of our history, we are a very young country after all. Everything prior to the flag's history was actually part of England's history, not ours.
ok, sounded like american exceptionalism to me, and i take exception to that. sorry if i misunderstood.
and i am aware of the history, i spent some time in philadelphia, and would have visited the betsy ross house if they hadn't such bitchy business hours.
By "miscegenation" do you mean:What are your thoughts on the miscegenation content Mad (cough) Scientist?
By Daniel Tencer
Monday, October 26th, 2009 -- 11:15 am
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Perhaps no one noticed. Perhaps no one cared. But hours after a liberal news forum brought attention to a series of days old controversial photos on the Republican National Committee's Facebook page, the photos were finally taken down.
Among them was a picture of President Barack Obama eating fried chicken, subtitled with a call to prohibit interracial marriage. The photo's caption read: "Miscegenation is a CRIME against American Values. Repeal Loving v. Virginia."
Miscegenation refers to the "marriage or cohabitation between a man and woman of different races." Loving v. Virginia was a landmark Supreme Court case that, in 1967, struck down all of the US's laws against interracial marriage.
This is the photo as it appeared on the GOP's Facebook profile on Monday:
RNC keeps racist pics on Facebook for nearly a week | Raw Story
Now perhaps it was a troll who posted it, perhaps not. But it was left there for 5 days.
If the RNC can't manage a little thing like their own social networking site, how can they be trusted to manage a country?
Care to explain how that picture is racist?
Just curious....
Why would anyone choose a picture of the President eating fried chicken?
Only black people eat fried chicken? I eat fried chicken and I'm not black, "last time I looked Some times I sit on my front porch and eat fried chicken, does that make me black? I'm so confused. Why is it that every time someone points at Barak Obama's skin color it's racist if it comes from a conservative but it's racial heritage when it comes from a liberal? Either we care about skin color or we don't. This world will never be completely racially unbiased until we do not notice or care about skin color. If you're an American I see a person who loves this country. If you're an African American, I see a person who is putting their skin color in my face. Hyphenated Americanism, Political Correctness and Liberalism are at the root of the problem not the solution.
