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Even if it only exist in the person's mind that committed the legal act, they ought to feel shame and pity.When you purposely end a human life they call that murder.
nf.23.08.25 #233
thssm.23.08.25
#10,536
disenfranchise: : to deprive of a franchise, of a legal right, or of some privilege or immunity especially : to deprive of the right to vote
nf.23.08.21 #10,436
hvdvt.23.08.21#10,437
nf.23.08.21 #10,439
Can either of you two answer my question in post #10,439 from Monday?
Do you believe presidential elections and the motivations of citizen’s who vote which way or that, has anything to do with how RvW was overturned in the first place?
Did Trump beating Clinton in 2016 have anything to do with it?
Did Trump defeat Clinton with the voting block of white Evangelical Christian’s solidly behind him?
When Trump lost in 2023 and all fifty states had certified their slates of electors, Jenna Ellis, a white Evangelical Christian lawyer on the Trump campaign legal team, allegedly made false statements to overturn the 2020 election and solicited public officials including Shawn Still (see post 08.25 #233 ) to unlawfully appoint presidential electors. She, Trump and 17 others were charged last week in a sweeping racketeering indictment for alleged efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in the state of Georgia.
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Trump, Ellis and Still are alleged to have conspired to disenfranchise the voters in Georgia by committing fraud and pressuring public officials to commit fraud for the purpose of keeping Trump in the Presidency for a second term.
All this is relevant to this thread because a Trump second term would give Trump more opportunity to continue packing the Supreme Court with justices dedicated to leaning in favor of Evangelical Christians who support Trump as if he were anointed by God.
I can’t force any MAGA to engage in a discussion where questions are a tool to get to the facts and the truth, but I can’t document every time I try at least.
nf.23.08.25 #10,537
Can either of you two answer my question in post #10,439 from Monday?
Do you believe presidential elections and the motivations of citizen’s who vote which way or that, has anything to do with how RvW was overturned in the first place?
Did Trump beating Clinton in 2016 have anything to do with it?
Did Trump defeat Clinton with the voting block of white Evangelical Christian’s solidly behind him?
People are answering your questions, you allreny don’t like the answers. Plus, you keep starting your posts talking about one thing, and then switching to another topic in the middle.I can’t force any MAGA to engage in a discussion where questions are a tool to get to the facts and the truth, but I can’t document every time I try at least.
Fun Fact For Christian Gestation Enforcers: now there are 10 to 15 percent more pro-choice Americans than it was before Dobbs in state after state and national data
lktr.23.07.22
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crlnnnrbr.23.07.26
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crlnnnrbr.23.07.25 #1
“my” country? Who it made “your” country ?
What if I do not want white your evangelical Christian transformation of our country into a cult of personality rule where everyone outside the cult is evil.
What if I want a black evangelical Christian transformation where minorities know more about the ideals and hope of our county after suffering the mist to attain progress.
Let’s never have a one term president again who tells his VP to ditch the fucking stupid Constitution and throw out seven states we couldn’t win to make us the winner.
If Black Biden voters (many of them churchgoing Christians) in big cities don’t like it Mike - fuck’em
Let’s never have State government forcing full term gestation on women if they say no,
nf.23.08.26 #10,538
What if I do not want white your evangelical Christian transformation of our country into a cult of personality rule where everyone outside the cult is evil.
Let’s never have State government forcing full term gestation on women if they say no,
bvvgl.23.08.26
#10,540
Please refer to what I actuslly wrote that I want a Christian transformation. So once again you are a liar.
Black Christians vote for Biden . I like the infrastructure transformation of America that even helps white Trump Christians like you.
Here’s what I wrote:
What if I do not want your white evangelical Christian transformation of our country into a cult of personality rule where everyone outside the cult is evil.
What if I want a black evangelical Christian transformation of our country where minorities know more about the ideals and hope of our country after suffering the most to attain all the progress that we have already made.
nf.23.08.26
#10,543
cult of personality rule where everyone outside the cult is evil.
Your constant implication that a woman is in extreme danger after being impregnated
Black evangelicals do not petition the government to force gestation on women in the way that white evangelicals do. Black evangelicals do not spread the lie that the United States of America was founded as a Christian Nation in the way that black evangelicals do Because how could they? Black evangelicals would never vote for the orange antichrist who tried to steal the election from the nine out of 10 black Americans who voted for Biden. Specifically including the black voters in Fulton County, Georgia.I’m curious as to why you favor one color of evangelical over another. What difference does that make?
thssm.23,08,26
#10,564
Black evangelicals do not petition the government to force gestation on women in the way that white evangelicals do. Black evangelicals do not spread the lie that the United States of America was founded as a Christian Nation in the way that black evangelicals do Because how could they? Black evangelicals would never vote for the orange antichrist who tried to steal the election from the nine out of 10 black Americans who voted for Biden. Specifically including the black voters in Fulton County, Georgia.
nf.23.08.26 #10,564
Black evangelicals do not petition the government to force gestation on women in the way that white evangelicals do.
Black evangelicals do not spread the lie that the United States of America was founded as a Christian Nation in the way that black evangelicals do
Black evangelicals would never vote for the orange antichrist who tried to steal the election from the nine out of 10 black Americans who voted for Biden.
Ahhhhhhh you are using simple logic on him, and that's like kryptonite to a overly bloated leftist worldly mindset, otherwise one that thinks they are full of wisdom beyond anyone's understanding. Kuddos to you, and God speed onto your mission.What if people don’t want your version of things? That goes both ways.
And let’s never have a federal government that forces states into allowing abortion.
Black's don't take to kindly to your using them like you do, but ain't that a leftist tactic until they figure you out ? Then they realize what's up, but hopefully it's not too late for them.thssm.23,08,26
#10,564
Black evangelicals do not petition the government to force gestation on women in the way that white evangelicals do. Black evangelicals do not spread the lie that the United States of America was founded as a Christian Nation in the way that black evangelicals do Because how could they? Black evangelicals would never vote for the orange antichrist who tried to steal the election from the nine out of 10 black Americans who voted for Biden. Specifically including the black voters in Fulton County, Georgia.
nf.23.08.26 #10,564
I do not ignore questions ever. If I miss one of yours that you really want answered remind me and I’ll get to it as fast as I can. Every whattsboutism is not a legitimate question because circumstances and scenarios may be similar but not to any point.you ignore the questions of others.
Switching back to the documents case eh ? What happened ? Fanny ain't got no case does she ? I thought not.I do not ignore questions ever. If I miss one of yours that you really want answered remind me and I’ll get to it as fast as I can. Every whattsboutism is not a legitimate question because circumstances and scenarios may be similar but not to any point.
Biden and Pence having possession of classified materials is problematic but nothing like defying a subpoenas after a year of the DOJ trying very nicely to get them back in the way that Pence and Biden cooperated fully in a short period of time.
nf.23.08.26
Point One of many: I am myself opposed to ending gestation once it gets started if and when I am involved in starting it.Are you suggesting that no “black evangelicals” are pro life?
Are you suggesting that no “black evangelicals” are pro life?
So you have very little faith, and therefore you figure that you are in control instead of God ? But of course you do, because you are a leftist.thssm.23.08.26
#10,567
Point One of many: I am myself opposed to ending gestation once it gets started if and when I am involved in starting it.
After my second daughter was born, I got a vasectomy because I didn’t want to have any more kids because I wanted to give my two kids a better chance in life that I started out with.
Neither one of my beautiful daughters were planned. I was very young. But I also chose vasectomy after the second because I didn’t want to put a burden on my wife to be responsible for not getting pregnant. Men who do that are assholes in my opinion.
nf.23.08.26 #10,572
Are you suggesting that no “black evangelicals” are pro life?
Point One of many: I am myself opposed to ending gestation once it gets started if and when I am involved in starting it.
you ignore the questions of others.
In response to #10,572 Saint Beagle asked if I am in control instead of God because I have very little faith. I must confess I do not know why I am being asked about my faith or lack thereof.So you have very little faith, and therefore you figure that you are in control instead of God ?
You will never get the Democratic Party out of power if the opposition that you expect to do it maintains the policy that denies liberty to women by using Government to ban abortions to force full term gestation on women who do not give consent for their body to be used in that way.The only way we get the garbage out of the DOJ, the FBI, Homeland Security, and the IRS is by getting the Democrat Regime out of power.
Yes. Except I defer to the woman however to not refer to it your way because she knows her body is being used for life support for an underdeveloped fetus that does not have its own brainwhen you say "gestation of the fetus" dont you mean life support from the childs mother???
if they are pregnant they have already given permission for their bodies to be used,,You will never get the Democratic Party out of power if the opposition that you expect to do it maintains the policy that denies liberty to women by using Government to ban abortions to force full term gestation on women who do not give consent for their body to be used in that way.
prgrssvhntr.23.07.26
#10,560
Yes. I defer to the woman however to not refer to it your way because she knows her body is being used for life support for an underdeveloped fetus that does not have its own brain
It becomes indeed a disgusting practice to switch fetus in an Orwellian way to a child.
You got away with this for fifty years calling pro/choice BABY KILLERS and it worked.
Dobbs went down. It does not work anymore It is meaningless but tough to quit.
nf.23.07.27
Absolutely not. You are saying she has a contract with a brainless fetus to give life support with full term gestation until live birth.if they are pregnant they have already given permission for their bodies to be used,,
Absolutely not. You are saying she has a contract with a brainless fetus to give life support with full term gestation until live birth.if they are pregnant they have already given permission for their bodies to be used,,
I said nothing about a contract,,nf.23.08.27
#10,577
Absolutely not. You are saying she has a contract with a brainless fetus to give life support with full term gestation until live birth.
How are you involved in securing that contract at the moment of conception,
If she has unprotected sex and gets pregnant the fetus is part of her body and as you say her body provides life support
She does not need a part of her body to grant permission to the conscious part of her being to cut ifc life support to the part. The new part is not a person. It is bodily autonomy.
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