Roosevelt....the Un-Reagan

[PoliticalChic]

b. FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country". FDR had underestimated the Japanese and the Pearl Harbor attack devastated the American Navy and exposed the president's incompetence.
"

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????
.

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country".t.

Google search: No such quote by George Marshall found

Stop revealing your lack of education.....learn to read a book

It is found here:

"FDR Goes to War," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

 

[Syriusly]

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????
.

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country"..

Whether

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

Stop lying.

Roosevelt did nothing to prepare this nation for war until 1940.!

Bald faced lie

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men

 

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Oh- and who made the choice of George Marshall?

FDR

"By mid-1941" you moron.

Exactly what I said.

 

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2. He became President in 1933, and rushed to embrace Stalin with recognition that same year....
It took seven years to begin to prepare for the war..

Why exactly do you think that HiItler should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?

Articulate the question ....so I can rip it to shreds.

Do you want me to type slower?

You said it took FDR 7 years to begin to prepare for the war-

Why exactly do you think that HiItler should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?

Write a question that makes sense.

I recognize your fear that I will destroy what you write.....and I will.

 

[Syriusly]

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????
.

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country"..

Whether

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

Stop lying.

Roosevelt did nothing to prepare this nation for war until 1940.!

Bald faced lie

Consider the expansion of the Navy under FDR in advance of WW2

By 1934, 15 new cruisers and one aircraft carrier - the USS Ranger - had been commissioned but, under the Five-Year Program, had not been provided aircraft complements. These unsatisfied requirements totaled over 200 aircraft, and the Vinson-Trammell Navy Act authorized the immediate expansion of the aircraft inventory to accommodate these demands.

The report by the Secretary of the Navy for 1935 shows the condition of the fleet then and the immediate plans regarding expansion. To the Trammel-Vinson Act, Congress had added a sizable appropriation, which would permit the continuance of construction begun under earlier allocations and would also allow 24 additional keels to be laid. The manufacture of guns had gone on, evidently with some rapidity. Considerations of security had already begun to operate, however, because the Secretary this time purposely omitted stating the number of each caliber turned out. The guns ranged from 5-inch 25's to 16-inch 45's, with accessories, such as breech plugs, mounts, sights, gun directors, and torpedo tubes.

In 1936, Congress authorized the construction of six new cruisers and two large aircraft carriers - the USS Yorktown and USS Enterprise. Combined with the already outstanding aircraft requirements, the new fleet requirements stood at 273 new aircraft, all of which were automatically approved under the Vinson-Trammell Navy Act. The flexibility provided by the Vinson-Trammell Navy Act proved extremely valuable during the fleet's expansion program. The Bureau of Aeronautics estimated that by 1940, it would require some 2,000 aircraft to outfit the growing fleet, including those required for the new vessels planned under the current expansion program.

The Congressional Appropriation Act for 1937 provided preliminary plans for two new battleships, and work on them began the following year. A similar act in 1938 provided for eight destroyers and four submarines, while by a special piece of legislation, at about the same time, Congress permitted the replacement of two overage battleships by new ones. The purpose of all this building, in line with the original provisos of the Trammel-Vinson Act, was to increase by 20 percent the under-age strength of the U.S. Navy.



Naval Expansion Act of 1938

In 1938 Congress passed President Roosevelt's Naval Expansion Act. This act called for across-the-board increases of 20 percent in the Navy's fleet strength. The aircraft inventory was likewise authorized to grow to a strength of not less than 3,000 planes by 1945. Of course all these new planes would require pilots and basing facilities, both of which were authorized in this important act. By this time, it had become clear to leadership in the Navy and in Congress that it was futile to attempt to expand naval aviation operations without a corresponding expansion of the infrastructure that was necessary to support them.

Ship Building 1933-45 - Roosevelt, Franklin D.

The Yorktown and the Enterprise? Any person who has read of WW2 knows the significance of the decision to build those ship

 

[PoliticalChic]

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????
.

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country"..

Whether

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

Stop lying.

Roosevelt did nothing to prepare this nation for war until 1940.!

Bald faced lie

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men

That's a lie, as I have shown twice now.

 

[Syriusly]

[
2. He became President in 1933, and rushed to embrace Stalin with recognition that same year....
It took seven years to begin to prepare for the war..

Why exactly do you think that HiItler should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?

Articulate the question ....so I can rip it to shreds.

Do you want me to type slower?

You said it took FDR 7 years to begin to prepare for the war-

Why exactly do you think that HiItler should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?

Write a question that makes sense.

I recognize your fear that I will destroy what you write.....and I will.

You said it took FDR 7 years to begin to prepare for the war-

Why exactly do you think that FDR should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?

 

[Syriusly]

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country"..

Whether

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

Stop lying.

Roosevelt did nothing to prepare this nation for war until 1940.!

Bald faced lie

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men

That's a lie, as I have shown twice now.

You refusing to believe the facts is just you refusing to believe the facts.

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.[

 

[Syriusly]

Yup...Roosevelt was a devotee of Benitio Mussolini....he based his entire economic plan on Mussolini's.

1. RexfordTugwell, FDR's economic guru, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government.

However, in reality- FDR did not propose the nationalization of any industry.

You are delusional.

Why exactly do you regret FDR leading the United States to victory in WW2- and emerging as the most powerful country in the world?

Why exactly do you regret FDR leading the United States to victory in WW2- and emerging as the most powerful country in the world?

 

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Oh- and who made the choice of George Marshall?

FDR

OUCH!!! That had to leave a mark on PoliSpice

 

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b. FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country". FDR had underestimated the Japanese and the Pearl Harbor attack devastated the American Navy and exposed the president's incompetence.
"

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country".



2. "May 13, 1940 Marshall went to the White House with a budget proposal for $650- enough to fund an army of a million and a quarter soldiers. Roosevelt dismissed the proposal out of hand. Treasury Secretary Henry Morganthau asked that Marshall be allowed to state his case. The President brushed him off saying "I know exactly what he will say....there is no necessity of me hearing what he will say at all."
"Soldier, Statesman, Peacemaker: Leadership Lessons from George C. Marshall,"
By Jack Uldrich, p. 104

3. "Probably the step most noticed by the general public, and the most controversial one, was the beginning of a draft, compelling men into the armed services. This began in August, 1940, after the war in Europe had been going on for a year. It was the first peacetime draft in American history. The draft was to bring one million men into the service, mostly the army, for one year. In 1939, the US had the 21st largest army in the world, with only around 250,000 officers and men. This put US Army strength right behind Bulgaria." How did Roosevelt prepare for the inevitable entry into the war


Two facts in evidence:
a. you're a dunce
b. I'm always 100% correct.

Might check out the vote on that draft renewal, I have used it to illustrate Republican resistance to arming America. The House vote was 88 Republicans voting no, 46 voting yes. It passed the House by one vote.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup...Roosevelt was a devotee of Benitio Mussolini....he based his entire economic plan on Mussolini's.

1. RexfordTugwell, FDR's economic guru, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government.

However, in reality- FDR did not propose the nationalization of any industry.

You are delusional.

Why exactly do you regret FDR leading the United States to victory in WW2- and emerging as the most powerful country in the world?

Why exactly do you regret FDR leading the United States to victory in WW2- and emerging as the most powerful country in the world?

Exactly the sort of lie I love reducing you to!

Your defeat is acknowledged.

 

[Dot Com]

Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????
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Is PC just a troll? Or truly a delusional Conservative?

Chapter 19: Between World Wars

No quick changes in American military policy followed. But beginning in 1935 the armed forces received substantially larger appropriations that permitted them to improve their readiness for action. Army improvements during the next three years reflected not only the increasingly critical international situation but also the careful planning of the War Department during General Douglas MacArthur's tour as Chief of Staff from 1930 to 1935. His recommendations led to a reorganization of the combat forces and a modest increase in their size, and were accompanied by more realistic planning for using the manpower and industrial might of the United States for war, if that should become necessary.

Immediately after the European war started the President proclaimed a limited national emergency and authorized increases in Regular Army and National Guard enlisted strengths to 227,000and 235,000, respectively.

To fill the ranks of this new Army, Congress on August 27 approved induction of the National Guard into federal service and the calling up of the Organized Reserves. Then it approved the first peacetime draft of untrained civilian manpower in the nation's history, in the Selective Service and Training Act of September 14, 1940. Units of the National Guard, and selectees and the Reserve officers to train them, entered service as rapidly as the Army could construct camps to house them. During the last six months of 1940 the active Army more than doubled in strength, and by mid-1941 it achieved its planned strength of one and a half million officers and men.

So....was George Marshall lying, too?????

1. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country".t.

Google search: No such quote by George Marshall found

Stop revealing your lack of education.....learn to read a book

It is found here:

"FDR Goes to War," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

did you google that insult?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here, another post that is absolutely true...and that the FDR apologists will be unable to deny....it clearly identifies the character of the man.



9. Roosevelt swore to the American public the exact opposite of the truth: he declared that Stalin fought for the same ideals!
FDR was lying!

September 30, 1941, FDR claimed that there wasfreedom of religion in the USSR. "The claim that Stalin's Russia allowed religious freedom was the first step ina massive pro-Soviet campaign that the White House coordinated for the duration of the war."
"Caught between Roosevelt and Stalin: America's Ambassadors to Moscow," by Dennis J. Dunn, p. 137





No freedom of the press, no freedom of religion, no capitalism, ex-post facto laws, extermination of political enemies.....
America

Stalin fought for the same ideals as we did?????


Or....the America that Franklin Roosevelt was planning for.



Could explain why FDR demanded a communist as his second vice-president....or he threatened not to run.

 

[rightwinger]

Cut and paste is the print version of video editing and distorting. It is only viable when the author can defend those challenges of distortion. You never seem able to defend your distortions when you are challenged. Your pattern is to ignore those challenges and flood the thread with new cut and paste to deflect away from the fact you have been caught in a lie of distortion. In this thread, I challenged your assessment that followed a cut and paste that FDR has not prepared the US Military for WWII. I had shown how you were distorting a quote by Gen. Marshall on numerous occasions, but you continue to use it. I debunked your assertion once again giving links to show how FDR was developing new modern weapons and preparing US industry to transform into the arsenal of freedom that it became on his command.
You have failed to show you are not telling an indisputable lie about FDR not preparing for WWII. You haven't even attempted to defend that lie.

FDR dragged the United States kicking and screaming into preparing our military for the war that was coming- it just came about a year before we were really ready.

I believe almost every successful U.S. weapon deployed in WW2 was developed- and produced- during FDR's presidency- from the P-51 Mustang to the B-29 bomber.

Hell FDR approved the Manhattan project despite many of his generals not believing such a bomb could be possible.

PC just has a massive hate-on for FDR- from his rantings it appears to be based upon some John Birch anti-communist crap from the 1950's, with GOP malicious envy gossip added in.

Now...here is a prime example of the sort of out-and-out lie that Leftist acolytes tell....and may even believe.

"FDR dragged the United States kicking and screaming into preparing our military for the war that was coming-..."

Due to ideology and ineptitude, he did the very opposite.

He made enemies of the business community-----which he hated because they were successful in an endeavor in which he regularly failed.

He was as clueless about the impending war as he was about those he idolized, Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini.

The armament industry, the so-called MIC, knew exactly what FDR was doing and they agreed with him with motivation and sincerity. Forts, bases, and air strips were being built and expanded through public works projects. They saw the massive plan to replace the weapons of the 20's and early 30's, most of which could not compete with the advanced weapons of Japan and Germany.
No doubt PC has no concept to the time and process of development it took to replace America's weaponry for WWII. Nor does she have an inkling of knowledge of what is involved with retooling factories to produce those weapons.

FDR ordered the first attacks on Japan 13 days after Pearl Harbor with the attack on Japanese pilots and aircraft on Dec. 20 by the Flying Tigers who officially entered the China campaign with 39 P-40's which had been forward deployed as "volunteers". The effort to support the Chinese against Japan had been begun in August 1937.

Here is a very partial list of the over 160 projects named as "military" in the list of New Deal Projects.

Fort Knox Barracks 1935
Fort Hamilton Improvements, Brooklyn, NY
MARCH FIELD
MITCHEL FIELD
NAVEL SURFACE WARFARE CENTER. Bethesda, MD
PORTLAND ARMY AIRBASE Started 1936 and completed 1940.
WINTER HARBOR NAVY BASE-MAINE
Fort Simms Coast Guard Station
US MARINE HOSPITAL-MEMPHIS TENNESEE 1935
US Navel Magazine and Torpedo Factory-Alexandria, VA

This short list is only a handful of preparations the US was making under FDR's guidance and only include works done by New Deal relief agencies.

Hmmmm.....you declined to include the facts in the post....

....must mean that they were all true, and had you shaking in your jammies.


As I said....FDR was clueless about the impending war, and did not prepare the nation for same.

And he had been warned and advised repeatedly.

You've verified my post and revealed yourself to be a sniveling liar.

The usual denouement.

Every item I listed, from the Flying Tigers and Chennault to the list of military projects can be confirmed by simply typing what I referenced into a search of google, bing, etc. I have already listed links to some of the weapons developed such as the M-1 Garand, the B-17, P-38, ESSEX CLASS Carriers, etc.

What PC is unable to do, is to explain why the data I provided does not debunk her nonsense. That is because she doesn't really have a cut and paste method of refuting. She does not have the knowledge nor expertise to make an intellectual response because she is clueless about the topic she is trying to promote.

In reality, PC's response is sad and beyond lame. After obtaining a list of just a handful of the projects and programs put into motion by FDR, building, expanding and improving military bases, including huge airbases on both the west and east coast, developing training centers forts to train and house, increasing the size and capabilities of military hospitals, and the all-important development of the aircraft, ships and hardware need to win the war, the conspiracy theorist simply says none of that counts. She does so without a shred of evidence to contest that her nonsense has been debunked.

You may as well talk to a wall

She will just ignore what you posted and cut and paste her original propaganda

Rinse/Repeat

 

[Syriusly]

Yup...Roosevelt was a devotee of Benitio Mussolini....he based his entire economic plan on Mussolini's.

1. RexfordTugwell, FDR's economic guru, was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government.

However, in reality- FDR did not propose the nationalization of any industry.

You are delusional.

Why exactly do you regret FDR leading the United States to victory in WW2- and emerging as the most powerful country in the world?

Why exactly do you regret FDR leading the United States to victory in WW2- and emerging as the most powerful country in the world?

Exactly the sort of lie I love reducing you to!

Your defeat is acknowledged.

So you are glad that FDR led the United States to victory in WW2?

 

[Syriusly]

Could explain why FDR demanded a communist as his second vice-president....or he threatened not to run.

No one can explain any of your idiotic claims.

Tell us more about how you regret FDR led the United States out of the Depression and to victory in World War 2

 

[PoliticalChic]

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2. He became President in 1933, and rushed to embrace Stalin with recognition that same year....
It took seven years to begin to prepare for the war..

Why exactly do you think that HiItler should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?

Have you admitted that you purposely made this post obtuse?

"Why exactly do you think that HiItler should have been preparing for war with Hitler's Germany in 1933?"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Could explain why FDR demanded a communist as his second vice-president....or he threatened not to run.

No one can explain any of your idiotic claims.

Tell us more about how you regret FDR led the United States out of the Depression and to victory in World War 2

Care to explain why this is 'idiotic'?

FDR demanded a communist as his second vice-president....or he threatened not to run.

It is a fact, as are all of my posts.


Care to bet on it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Could explain why FDR demanded a communist as his second vice-president....or he threatened not to run.

No one can explain any of your idiotic claims.

Tell us more about how you regret FDR led the United States out of the Depression and to victory in World War 2

" FDR led the United States out of the Depression"

No he didn't.

He extended the Depression.

And, his adherence to Stalin's policies extended WWII, as well.

Only an uneducated, ignorant Roosevelt lap dog believes what you do.



1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .

2. In 1935, the Brookings Institution (left-leaning) delivered a 900-page report on the New Deal and the National Recovery Administration, concluding that “ on the whole it retarded recovery.” article - AEI