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There was no court order. There was a congressional subpoena. The only person that deleted anything after the subpoena was issued stated they did so as their own decision. It had nothing to do with Clinton.

The smashing of phones and all the other deletions occurred before the subpoena was issued.

You really believe it had nothing to do with Clinton?

Is the smashing of phones considered an admission of guilt? Trump's actions have been seen as such.

What guilt would be admitted by smashing phones?

If Clinton had obstructed any attempt to investigate her, I would be making the same adverse inference (not guilt) that I make of Trump.

You don't consider deleting emails and smashing phones that could be used a evidence against her obstructing? Wow...not sure what to say.
The secretary of state is allowed to delete personal emails. Clinton had five lawyers decide which ones were personal. there is no evidence of any wrongdoing that she would be trying to cover up. The whole thing is a joke, super duper.
There is no evidence of wrongdoing because she deleted it all. Super Duper? Whatever the fuck that is.
What kind of wrongdoing do you imagine?
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You guys have to remember that Hillary Clinton is the most vetted human being in American history. Republicans have been going after her for 30 years. In all that time with the entire weight of the Senate and the house behind them, don’t you think they could’ve found something? Unless she’s like the most brilliant woman ever to exist.
 
Did you give DumBama a pass on the things he lied about? It's the Democrats that want his tax returns, and it could only help them in bashing him. Speaking of which, perhaps if they treated him a little better, he wouldn't be trying to piss them off as much. They began attacking him before he even set foot in the White House. WTF would he give them the satisfaction of showing his tax returns?

The IRS sifts through every deduction wealthy people have. If they found something suspicious about his returns, they would notify the proper authorities.

No I don’t and Obama’s tax returns are public.

You and other rightwingers really should not grossly compromise yourself like that to make excuses for Trump. Have some principles for f sake.

Who's making excuses? You asked a question and I answered it honestly.

YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?
 
Will he get another job by 'repairing' his reputation?
Will he promote a book and get wealthier/
Was he just paid off by Giuliani?

But I welcome Shokin coming to the United States and testifying under oath.

I would as well. But if he did, would you then say you believe Biden's to be involved in corruption? I hardly doubt it.

Shokin Demands Criminal Probe Of Joe Biden In Declaration To Kyiv Prosecutors

I would certainly take Shokin's claims more seriously if he testified under oath here in the U.S.

If Biden testified and said he broke no laws- would you believe him to be innocent? I have sincere doubts.

I don't know about breaking any laws, but if it is found that Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son, then what he did was what Trump was impeached on, which is threatening US aid for personal reasons instead of for the country. In that case, he should drop out of the race.

Certainly I agree- if Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son- then Biden should drop out of the race.

Do you also agree that if it is found out that Trump asked Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation of Biden in order to assist his re-election campaign- that Trump should resign?

Only if you can prove that's why he did it. He wanted the announcement because Ukraine has a bad habit of making promises they never keep. Trump wanted that announcement so that Zelensky would feel more obligated to do it.

Once again, Biden is not Trump's adversary. He wasn't in July, he isn't now, and he won't be until the Democrats decide who they are going to have run against him.
Interesting to see you admit that the investigation into Biden was an obligation rather than a request.
 
No I don’t and Obama’s tax returns are public.

You and other rightwingers really should not grossly compromise yourself like that to make excuses for Trump. Have some principles for f sake.

Who's making excuses? You asked a question and I answered it honestly.

YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you should BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose your tax-returns as all modern Presidents did before Trump and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking peanut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases
 
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I would as well. But if he did, would you then say you believe Biden's to be involved in corruption? I hardly doubt it.

Shokin Demands Criminal Probe Of Joe Biden In Declaration To Kyiv Prosecutors

I would certainly take Shokin's claims more seriously if he testified under oath here in the U.S.

If Biden testified and said he broke no laws- would you believe him to be innocent? I have sincere doubts.

I don't know about breaking any laws, but if it is found that Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son, then what he did was what Trump was impeached on, which is threatening US aid for personal reasons instead of for the country. In that case, he should drop out of the race.

Certainly I agree- if Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son- then Biden should drop out of the race.

Do you also agree that if it is found out that Trump asked Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation of Biden in order to assist his re-election campaign- that Trump should resign?

Only if you can prove that's why he did it. He wanted the announcement because Ukraine has a bad habit of making promises they never keep. Trump wanted that announcement so that Zelensky would feel more obligated to do it.

Once again, Biden is not Trump's adversary. He wasn't in July, he isn't now, and he won't be until the Democrats decide who they are going to have run against him.
Interesting to see you admit that the investigation into Biden was an obligation rather than a request.

No, I said he wanted to make Zelensky feel more obligated. Not illegal and not impeachable.
 
Who's making excuses? You asked a question and I answered it honestly.

YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you shoudl BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose you tax-returns as all modern Presidents did and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking penut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases

Just rumors unit it comes out. Publishers often push leaks for potential high selling books to hype up sales for when it's finally marketed. Then it boils down to if what Bolton says is speculation or he was told that by Trump.
 
Will he get another job by 'repairing' his reputation?
Will he promote a book and get wealthier/
Was he just paid off by Giuliani?

But I welcome Shokin coming to the United States and testifying under oath.

I would as well. But if he did, would you then say you believe Biden's to be involved in corruption? I hardly doubt it.

Shokin Demands Criminal Probe Of Joe Biden In Declaration To Kyiv Prosecutors

I would certainly take Shokin's claims more seriously if he testified under oath here in the U.S.

If Biden testified and said he broke no laws- would you believe him to be innocent? I have sincere doubts.

I don't know about breaking any laws, but if it is found that Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son, then what he did was what Trump was impeached on, which is threatening US aid for personal reasons instead of for the country. In that case, he should drop out of the race.

Certainly I agree- if Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son- then Biden should drop out of the race.

Do you also agree that if it is found out that Trump asked Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation of Biden in order to assist his re-election campaign- that Trump should resign?

Only if you can prove that's why he did it. He wanted the announcement because Ukraine has a bad habit of making promises they never keep. Trump wanted that announcement so that Zelensky would feel more obligated to do it. .

And only if you can prove that Joe got Shokin fired to save his son should he have to resign. I am using the exact same parameters for both Trump and Biden.

Look- I can repeat to you again why Biden got Shokin fired- its in the record- Biden was acting as part of official U.S. foreign policy, as part of a campaign that had been going on for months with the support of GOP senators, the IMF, the EU and Ukrainian activists- but you know all of that.

And I can point out that there is no evidence that Trump made the secret call to Zelinsky, and had his personal attorney secretly pressuring Ukraine to make a public announcement of an investigation of his political rival for any reasons other than to help his re-election campaign. But you know all of that.

But I will point out that Trump never made a formal request to Ukraine to investigate Burisma and the Bidens- despite Ukraine asking him to do so. And that there is no evidence that Trump asked the FBI to investigate the supposed corruption

Why do you think that Trump went to such lengths to have secret requests with no paper trail to Ukraine to investigate the Biden's- but has never actually formally asked Ukraine or the FBI to investigate the Bidens?

Why do you think that the Biden's are literally the only people in the world that Trump has asked Ukraine to investigate- even when Paul Manafort was convicted in part for his shady Ukrainian dealings?
 
YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you shoudl BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose you tax-returns as all modern Presidents did and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking penut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases

Just rumors unit it comes out. Publishers often push leaks for potential high selling books to hype up sales for when it's finally marketed. Then it boils down to if what Bolton says is speculation or he was told that by Trump.

Does it really?

Are any of the Trump Party going to really care if what Bolton supposedly said is true?
 
No I don’t and Obama’s tax returns are public.

You and other rightwingers really should not grossly compromise yourself like that to make excuses for Trump. Have some principles for f sake.

Who's making excuses? You asked a question and I answered it honestly.

YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances. You are making that up or parroting the commie party. What conflicts of interest? He is a former businessman, so I'm sure he's made deals all over the world like many American businesses.

LOL- Trump doesn't have any 'shady finances'? Far, far more than any the Biden's have.

Who knows? Nobody is allowed to look into it. Trump got impeached for trying.
.

Who is stopping any investigation?

Trump got investigated for secretly asking Ukraine to announce an investigation of his political rival.
Trump never asked the FBI to investigate these American citizens.
Trump never made a formal request to Ukraine to investigate these American citizens.
Meanwhile Trump is doing far, far more to prevent anyone from investigating his shady finances- Trump has multiple lawsuits to prevent any investigation of his finances.
 
I would certainly take Shokin's claims more seriously if he testified under oath here in the U.S.

If Biden testified and said he broke no laws- would you believe him to be innocent? I have sincere doubts.

I don't know about breaking any laws, but if it is found that Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son, then what he did was what Trump was impeached on, which is threatening US aid for personal reasons instead of for the country. In that case, he should drop out of the race.

Certainly I agree- if Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son- then Biden should drop out of the race.

Do you also agree that if it is found out that Trump asked Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation of Biden in order to assist his re-election campaign- that Trump should resign?

Only if you can prove that's why he did it. He wanted the announcement because Ukraine has a bad habit of making promises they never keep. Trump wanted that announcement so that Zelensky would feel more obligated to do it.

Once again, Biden is not Trump's adversary. He wasn't in July, he isn't now, and he won't be until the Democrats decide who they are going to have run against him.
Interesting to see you admit that the investigation into Biden was an obligation rather than a request.

No, I said he wanted to make Zelensky feel more obligated. Not illegal and not impeachable.
He didn’t want him to be obligated to do anything. He wanted him to feel obligated to investigate Biden.

Sure. Okay. And the difference is?
 
I would as well. But if he did, would you then say you believe Biden's to be involved in corruption? I hardly doubt it.

Shokin Demands Criminal Probe Of Joe Biden In Declaration To Kyiv Prosecutors

I would certainly take Shokin's claims more seriously if he testified under oath here in the U.S.

If Biden testified and said he broke no laws- would you believe him to be innocent? I have sincere doubts.

I don't know about breaking any laws, but if it is found that Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son, then what he did was what Trump was impeached on, which is threatening US aid for personal reasons instead of for the country. In that case, he should drop out of the race.

Certainly I agree- if Joe did get Shokin fired to save his son- then Biden should drop out of the race.

Do you also agree that if it is found out that Trump asked Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation of Biden in order to assist his re-election campaign- that Trump should resign?

Only if you can prove that's why he did it. He wanted the announcement because Ukraine has a bad habit of making promises they never keep. Trump wanted that announcement so that Zelensky would feel more obligated to do it. .

And only if you can prove that Joe got Shokin fired to save his son should he have to resign. I am using the exact same parameters for both Trump and Biden.

Look- I can repeat to you again why Biden got Shokin fired- its in the record- Biden was acting as part of official U.S. foreign policy, as part of a campaign that had been going on for months with the support of GOP senators, the IMF, the EU and Ukrainian activists- but you know all of that.

And I can point out that there is no evidence that Trump made the secret call to Zelinsky, and had his personal attorney secretly pressuring Ukraine to make a public announcement of an investigation of his political rival for any reasons other than to help his re-election campaign. But you know all of that.

But I will point out that Trump never made a formal request to Ukraine to investigate Burisma and the Bidens- despite Ukraine asking him to do so. And that there is no evidence that Trump asked the FBI to investigate the supposed corruption

Why do you think that Trump went to such lengths to have secret requests with no paper trail to Ukraine to investigate the Biden's- but has never actually formally asked Ukraine or the FBI to investigate the Bidens?

Why do you think that the Biden's are literally the only people in the world that Trump has asked Ukraine to investigate- even when Paul Manafort was convicted in part for his shady Ukrainian dealings?

What we have is an interview with the person that got fired, who stated he was only fired because he was looking into Burisma and Hunter for money laundering. So you are not using the same parameters. That didn't happen with Trump. In fact, just the opposite happened. When asked, Zelensky said he felt zero pressure from Trump during that call. It's been reported that Zelensky had no idea the aid was held up until a month after the call.
 
He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you shoudl BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose you tax-returns as all modern Presidents did and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking penut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases

Just rumors unit it comes out. Publishers often push leaks for potential high selling books to hype up sales for when it's finally marketed. Then it boils down to if what Bolton says is speculation or he was told that by Trump.

Does it really?

Are any of the Trump Party going to really care if what Bolton supposedly said is true?

Depends on what he has to say. Actually, he's able to say anything he wants right now. He can do interviews, he can write op-eds, as long as he doesn't disclose secret government information, he's free to do what he likes.
 
Who's making excuses? You asked a question and I answered it honestly.

YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you should BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose your tax-returns as all modern Presidents did before Trump and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking peanut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases
Only a fool would put a multi-billion dollar real estate empire in a blind trust. There is simply no law that requires it. There is also no law requiring your to publish your tax returns. Do you imagine Bloomberg would do either of those?
 
YOU. YOU are making excuses and deflecting when it comes to Trump, his shady finances, his lies about making tax returns public and financial conflicts of interests all over the world. DUH.

He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you should BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose your tax-returns as all modern Presidents did before Trump and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking peanut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases
Only a fool would put a multi-billion dollar real estate empire in a blind trust. There is simply no law that requires it. There is also no law requiring your to publish your tax returns. Do you imagine Bloomberg would do either of those?

He did as the mayor.
 
He doesn't have any shady finances.

You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you should BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose your tax-returns as all modern Presidents did before Trump and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking peanut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases
Only a fool would put a multi-billion dollar real estate empire in a blind trust. There is simply no law that requires it. There is also no law requiring your to publish your tax returns. Do you imagine Bloomberg would do either of those?

He did as the mayor.
Did he? Prove it.
 
You don't think it's shady that Trump, who PERONSALLY MAKES TONS OF MONEY IN TURKEY, went against all of his foreign policy advisors and back-stabbed the Kurds?

Bolton has said straight up that Trump's is motivated by personal finances in his descisions on matters involving Turkey.

Not shady? Seriously?

Follow up question here is...are you an idiot?

So what you're saying is that Trump's presidential policies should hinge on what he did as a businessman in that country? Should all of his decisions in every country he's dealt with be based on that as well? I'm sure he's done plenty of business in many countries.

And when did Bolton say that Trump's policy in Turkey had anything to do with his business dealings?

What I'm saying is that when you take the most powerful job in the world you should BEND OVER BACKWARDS to asure the American voters who entrusted you with this priviledge that you do not have gross financial conflicts.

You disclose your tax-returns as all modern Presidents did before Trump and you address clear cut financial conflicts of interests by putting your bussiness in a blind trust.

Jimmy carter wasn't running a global bussiness, he was running a fucking peanut farm which he put in a blind trust when it came time to serve.

Here is Bolton, who was as close to Trump's foreign policy descision making as it gets:

Bolton Book Puts New Focus on Trump’s Actions in Turkey and China Cases
Only a fool would put a multi-billion dollar real estate empire in a blind trust. There is simply no law that requires it. There is also no law requiring your to publish your tax returns. Do you imagine Bloomberg would do either of those?

He did as the mayor.
Did he? Prove it.


A Final Peek at Bloomberg’s Tax Returns
 

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