Russians turning?

[Peach]

Are the people of Russia turning against that horse back riding little guy whose feet barely reach the stirrups? Those sanctions I hoped would make him unpopular may be doing so:

As Sanctions Pile Up, Russians' Alarm Grows Over Putin's Tactics

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/w...ians-alarm-grows-over-putin-tactics.html?_r=0

More frequent and prominent critics are saying that Mr. Putin and the hard-line leaders in the Kremlin overreached by suggesting that Russia, far more dependent than the old Soviet Union on international trade and financial markets, could thrive without the West.

“They were not anticipating the West to make radical moves, costly moves,” said Nikolai Petrov, an independent political analyst. “What is happening is different from what they wanted and what they expected.”

He and others pointed to the downing of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 over embattled southeastern Ukraine on July 17 as upsetting the balancing act that Mr. Putin had managed to pull off to maintain support from the public, hard-line nationalists, the security services, the oligarchs and the more liberal business community.

Mr. Toughtalk may meet his match with his latest foul ups.

 

[Mad Scientist]

From the article:

“The situation began changing dramatically after the crash of the Boeing,” Mr. Gudkov said. “According to our research, reaction inside the country was quite weak, but the Western European public (not the Russians) has drastically changed its attitude towards Russia.”

Indeed, poll results released Tuesday by the Levada Center showed the Russian public barely concerned about sanctions. More than 60 percent of respondents thought they would have little or no impact on them. Mr. Putin remains hugely popular.

So where's the Alarm? In the Title and from the Writer only.

 

[Peach]

From the article:

“The situation began changing dramatically after the crash of the Boeing,” Mr. Gudkov said. “According to our research, reaction inside the country was quite weak, but the Western European public (not the Russians) has drastically changed its attitude towards Russia.”

Indeed, poll results released Tuesday by the Levada Center showed the Russian public barely concerned about sanctions. More than 60 percent of respondents thought they would have little or no impact on them. Mr. Putin remains hugely popular.

So where's the Alarm? In the Title and from the Writer only.

As of now, yes, but if economic sanctions create hardship....Putin may change his tune. He isn't stupid; in fact, very crafty, and loves power.

 

[Zander]

Nope.

Putin was polling at 80% in April....Putin's Approval Rating Up to 80%, Poll Says | News | The Moscow Times

Now he's higher.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markado...is-still-higher-than-its-been-in-a-long-time/

 

[Meathead]

Are the people of Russia turning against that horse back riding little guy whose feet barely reach the stirrups? Those sanctions I hoped would make him unpopular may be doing so:

As Sanctions Pile Up, Russians' Alarm Grows Over Putin's Tactics

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/w...ians-alarm-grows-over-putin-tactics.html?_r=0

More frequent and prominent critics are saying that Mr. Putin and the hard-line leaders in the Kremlin overreached by suggesting that Russia, far more dependent than the old Soviet Union on international trade and financial markets, could thrive without the West.

“They were not anticipating the West to make radical moves, costly moves,” said Nikolai Petrov, an independent political analyst. “What is happening is different from what they wanted and what they expected.”

He and others pointed to the downing of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 over embattled southeastern Ukraine on July 17 as upsetting the balancing act that Mr. Putin had managed to pull off to maintain support from the public, hard-line nationalists, the security services, the oligarchs and the more liberal business community.

Mr. Toughtalk may meet his match with his latest foul ups.

Sorry, you're too ditzy to pull this off, link and all.

 

[Peach]

Fifty percent of the economy still under control of the Kremlin, Putin may have some associates with high ambitions:

"Domestically, grumbling over the creeping isolationism has grown louder. Roughly 50 percent of the economy is state-run, and the loyalty of those who direct such companies to Mr. Putin remains absolute. But the rest are changing.

“It is still a very polite version: ‘Maybe something is going wrong,' ” said Sergei Petrov, an opposition member of Parliament and the founder of Rolf, one of the biggest car importers in Russia. “They would never say it to you, a foreigner, but I hear more and more critics.”

A leader with business experience might be a better choice for Russians as they try to cement their place among free market nations.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The Putin cheerleader brigade has showed up I see. If he loses popularity in Russia he could always convince some teapers, to whom he is a hero, to move to Russia; their utopia.

 

[Peach]

The Putin cheerleader brigade has showed up I see. If he loses popularity in Russia he could always convince some teapers, to whom he is a hero, to move to Russia; their utopia.

Yes, popular suddenly with some Americans; some of us do not admire his former owner however.

 

[R.C. Christian]

The sanctions will only make him more determined in order to placate the nationalism that he's fermented there. He has a weak adversary that is provoking a propaganda war against him based on NO evidence.

His state media will keep that narrative going and it's not as if the pussies in the EU will ever play hard ball with him since they're sort of locked in with the German dogs with their Russian energy imports because they're too good to Frack. This will all pass and then Obama can spend more time fondling white balls at the country club.

 

[R.C. Christian]

The Putin cheerleader brigade has showed up I see. If he loses popularity in Russia he could always convince some teapers, to whom he is a hero, to move to Russia; their utopia.

Seek professional help.

 

[Peach]

The Putin cheerleader brigade has showed up I see. If he loses popularity in Russia he could always convince some teapers, to whom he is a hero, to move to Russia; their utopia.

The sanctions will only make him more determined in order to placate the nationalism that he's fermented there. He has a weak adversary that is provoking a propaganda war against him based on NO evidence.

His state media will keep that narrative going and it's not as if the pussies in the EU will ever play hard ball with him since they're sort of locked in with the German dogs with their Russian energy imports because they're too good to Frack. This will all pass and then Obama can spend more time fondling white balls at the country club.

Holland isn't backing down; I am not focusing on pressure from Obama; Malaysia, Holland and Australia have clout with the EU, or should.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Putin is about ready to sign agreements with the BRIC Nations. Germany is considering getting out of the EURO and joining BRIC.

Google "BRIC" and get educated.

You Lefty idiots sound just like George Bush when he said "You're either with US or your with the Terrorists".

Don't Americans EVER learn anything?

 

[R.C. Christian]

And Holland should NOT back down because they lost the most.

What we should be doing is pressuring Putin to call of his dogs so the independent investigation that he, himself, called for can be done instead of slapping him on the wrist and using popular stupidity of the American public to make this a closed case. Ditto for the Ukraine. They need to turn over the damn tower recording and radar data.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Putin is about ready to sign agreements with the BRIC Nations. Germany is considering getting out of the EURO and joining BRIC.

Google "BRIC" and get educated.

You Lefty idiots sound just like George Bush when he said "You're either with US or your with the Terrorists".

Don't Americans EVER learn anything?

Germany probably has every good reason to join BRIC considering how we treat them.

 

[Peach]

Putin is about ready to sign agreements with the BRIC Nations. Germany is considering getting out of the EURO and joining BRIC.

Google "BRIC" and get educated.

You Lefty idiots sound just like George Bush when he said "You're either with US or your with the Terrorists".

Don't Americans EVER learn anything?

As I posted a week or so ago, India is already grumbling China has too much power. Only time will tell. And I am not "left", I think there is a good chance the Senate may go Republican in November.

 

[Peach]

And Holland should NOT back down because they lost the most.

What we should be doing is pressuring Putin to call of his dogs so the independent investigation that he, himself, called for can be done instead of slapping him on the wrist and using popular stupidity of the American public to make this a closed case. Ditto for the Ukraine. They need to turn over the damn tower recording and radar data.

I agree; still no access to Dutch investigators though:

The Ukrainian government and pro-Russian rebels are fighting over control of eastern Ukraine. Dutch investigators in Ukraine did not mention mines but announced Wednesday that unsafe conditions kept their contingent from visiting the crash site for the fourth straight day. CNN could not independently confirm the veracity of the statement by the Ukrainian officials, though CNN's Nick Paton Walsh traveled to and from the debris field safely Wednesday. The dangers in the area make the work of international experts "impossible," the Ukrainian defense council said. Workers with the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe made the same call and avoided traveling to the crash site Wednesday. Ertrugrul Apakan, chief monitor of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine, said he would like to see a cease-fire between combatants so investigators can work. It was the fourth straight day the OSCE has joined the 50-strong team of Dutch and Australian investigators in declaring the region too dangerous to work in. Dutch investigators have yet to lay eyes on the wreckage or the human remains believed still to be strewn across the huge debris field near the town of Torez.

 

[R.C. Christian]

I say this and get laughed at but nuclear is inevitable. We can only do our best to avoid it, and this is not our best.

 

[dilloduck]

And Holland should NOT back down because they lost the most.

What we should be doing is pressuring Putin to call of his dogs so the independent investigation that he, himself, called for can be done instead of slapping him on the wrist and using popular stupidity of the American public to make this a closed case. Ditto for the Ukraine. They need to turn over the damn tower recording and radar data.

I agree; still no access to Dutch investigators though:

The Ukrainian government and pro-Russian rebels are fighting over control of eastern Ukraine. Dutch investigators in Ukraine did not mention mines but announced Wednesday that unsafe conditions kept their contingent from visiting the crash site for the fourth straight day. CNN could not independently confirm the veracity of the statement by the Ukrainian officials, though CNN's Nick Paton Walsh traveled to and from the debris field safely Wednesday. The dangers in the area make the work of international experts "impossible," the Ukrainian defense council said. Workers with the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe made the same call and avoided traveling to the crash site Wednesday. Ertrugrul Apakan, chief monitor of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine, said he would like to see a cease-fire between combatants so investigators can work. It was the fourth straight day the OSCE has joined the 50-strong team of Dutch and Australian investigators in declaring the region too dangerous to work in. Dutch investigators have yet to lay eyes on the wreckage or the human remains believed still to be strewn across the huge debris field near the town of Torez.

There has to be some incentive for all the combatants involved for a cease fire to take place. Right now there isn't any.

 

[Katzndogz]

Putin remains popular in Russia because the sanctions are ignored. Even by Americans. Thankfully Germany and Russia are working out a permanent peace agreement. obama is flat ignored to the point where he wasn't even told.

 

[shart_attack]

Are the people of Russia turning against that horse back riding little guy whose feet barely reach the stirrups? Those sanctions I hoped would make him unpopular may be doing so:

Mr. Toughtalk may meet his match with his latest foul ups.

"Mr. Toughtalk" — Obama???