Russians turning?

[Peach]

Putin remains a SOVIET:

Putin restored some Soviet symbols. He brought back the Soviet national anthem and Soviet emblems, and praised the Soviet triumph in World War Two. But he embraced pre-Soviet themes too. He befriended the Russian Orthodox Church, and name-checked anti-Soviet philosophers like Ivan Ilyin, whose remains he had repatriated to Russia and buried with honour.

This trend towards a uniquely Russian form of conservatism accelerated after the wave of protests against electoral fraud that struck Moscow in 2011-2, which alienated Putin from Russia's liberals. Among his favourite ideologues is Vladimir Yakunin, an old friend, a fellow KGB graduate, an Orthodox believer and now head of Russian Railways, one of the country's most strategically significant companies.

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Putin 2013
Born Oct 1952 in Leningrad (now St Petersburg)
Studied law and economics before joining KGB
Served as KGB agent in East Germany 1985-90
Worked at mayor's office, St Petersburg, 1990-96
Became PM in 1999, then elected president following year
Married (though divorcing/divorced), two daughters
Speaks German and English
Profile: Vladimir Putin
"Russia is not between Europe and Asia. Europe and Asia are to the left and right of Russia. We are not a bridge between them but a separate civilisational space, where Russia unites the civilisational communities of East and West," Yakunin said in a recent interview with Itar-Tass.

Last week, he was added to the US sanctions list for "membership of the Russian leadership's inner circle", following the annexation of Crimea.

The idea of Russia being separate from but equal to the West is convenient, since it allows the Kremlin to reject Western criticism of its elections, its court cases, its foreign policy, as biased and irrelevant.

Many of Putin's friends, though dismissive of the West's economics, politics, values and structures, are, however, much attached to its comforts. Both of Yakunin's sons live in Western Europe - one in London, one in Switzerland - and his grandchildren are growing up there.

According to the anti-corruption campaigner, Alexei Navalny, Yakunin has built himself a palace outside Moscow using foreign limestone and building materials brought in from Germany - a strange step for a man supposedly wedded to creating a Russian economy independent of the West.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

 

[dilloduck]

Putin remains a SOVIET:

Putin restored some Soviet symbols. He brought back the Soviet national anthem and Soviet emblems, and praised the Soviet triumph in World War Two. But he embraced pre-Soviet themes too. He befriended the Russian Orthodox Church, and name-checked anti-Soviet philosophers like Ivan Ilyin, whose remains he had repatriated to Russia and buried with honour.

This trend towards a uniquely Russian form of conservatism accelerated after the wave of protests against electoral fraud that struck Moscow in 2011-2, which alienated Putin from Russia's liberals. Among his favourite ideologues is Vladimir Yakunin, an old friend, a fellow KGB graduate, an Orthodox believer and now head of Russian Railways, one of the country's most strategically significant companies.

Continue reading the main story
Rise to the top

Putin 2013
Born Oct 1952 in Leningrad (now St Petersburg)
Studied law and economics before joining KGB
Served as KGB agent in East Germany 1985-90
Worked at mayor's office, St Petersburg, 1990-96
Became PM in 1999, then elected president following year
Married (though divorcing/divorced), two daughters
Speaks German and English
Profile: Vladimir Putin
"Russia is not between Europe and Asia. Europe and Asia are to the left and right of Russia. We are not a bridge between them but a separate civilisational space, where Russia unites the civilisational communities of East and West," Yakunin said in a recent interview with Itar-Tass.

Last week, he was added to the US sanctions list for "membership of the Russian leadership's inner circle", following the annexation of Crimea.

The idea of Russia being separate from but equal to the West is convenient, since it allows the Kremlin to reject Western criticism of its elections, its court cases, its foreign policy, as biased and irrelevant.

Many of Putin's friends, though dismissive of the West's economics, politics, values and structures, are, however, much attached to its comforts. Both of Yakunin's sons live in Western Europe - one in London, one in Switzerland - and his grandchildren are growing up there.

According to the anti-corruption campaigner, Alexei Navalny, Yakunin has built himself a palace outside Moscow using foreign limestone and building materials brought in from Germany - a strange step for a man supposedly wedded to creating a Russian economy independent of the West.

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[Peach]

Putin remains a SOVIET:

Putin restored some Soviet symbols. He brought back the Soviet national anthem and Soviet emblems, and praised the Soviet triumph in World War Two. But he embraced pre-Soviet themes too. He befriended the Russian Orthodox Church, and name-checked anti-Soviet philosophers like Ivan Ilyin, whose remains he had repatriated to Russia and buried with honour.

This trend towards a uniquely Russian form of conservatism accelerated after the wave of protests against electoral fraud that struck Moscow in 2011-2, which alienated Putin from Russia's liberals. Among his favourite ideologues is Vladimir Yakunin, an old friend, a fellow KGB graduate, an Orthodox believer and now head of Russian Railways, one of the country's most strategically significant companies.

Continue reading the main story
Rise to the top

Putin 2013
Born Oct 1952 in Leningrad (now St Petersburg)
Studied law and economics before joining KGB
Served as KGB agent in East Germany 1985-90
Worked at mayor's office, St Petersburg, 1990-96
Became PM in 1999, then elected president following year
Married (though divorcing/divorced), two daughters
Speaks German and English
Profile: Vladimir Putin
"Russia is not between Europe and Asia. Europe and Asia are to the left and right of Russia. We are not a bridge between them but a separate civilisational space, where Russia unites the civilisational communities of East and West," Yakunin said in a recent interview with Itar-Tass.

Last week, he was added to the US sanctions list for "membership of the Russian leadership's inner circle", following the annexation of Crimea.

The idea of Russia being separate from but equal to the West is convenient, since it allows the Kremlin to reject Western criticism of its elections, its court cases, its foreign policy, as biased and irrelevant.

Many of Putin's friends, though dismissive of the West's economics, politics, values and structures, are, however, much attached to its comforts. Both of Yakunin's sons live in Western Europe - one in London, one in Switzerland - and his grandchildren are growing up there.

According to the anti-corruption campaigner, Alexei Navalny, Yakunin has built himself a palace outside Moscow using foreign limestone and building materials brought in from Germany - a strange step for a man supposedly wedded to creating a Russian economy independent of the West.

are you going to include the link ?

Here is Putin's whining about the break up of the Soviet Union, and more:

Did Vladimir Putin call the breakup of the USSR 'the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century?' | PunditFact

Lech Walesa: Putin Has 'Evil Twin' Seeking to Dominate World


BBC News - Vladimir Putin: The rebuilding of ?Soviet? Russia

Putin wants the Soviet system back(.)

 

[wavingrl]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

 

[wavingrl]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

<on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.>

Certain we will need to do more.

 

[Peach]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

His dreams of a new Soviet Empire may be stalled, but until he is stopped, he will continue his conquests:

A total of eight people were added to the EU's sanctions list for allegedly undermining Ukraine's sovereignty or profiting from Moscow's takeover of Crimea, the EU's Official Journal showed. Three companies were also blacklisted.

Among the individuals was Arkady Rotenberg, Putin's former judo partner and a major shareholder of the civil engineering company Giprotransmost. The company has received a public contract to conduct a study on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.

The other five people targeted by the EU measures, which go into effect immediately, include the first deputy chief of staff of the Russian presidential administration and three pro-Moscow officials in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

 

[dilloduck]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

<on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.>

Certain we will need to do more.

Why ?

 

[wavingrl]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

<on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.>

Certain we will need to do more.

Why ?

I would need to do extensive research to respond appropriately I am certain.

Off the top of my head---those who comment with some authority infer that this is a first step and that additional sanctions are a possibility.

 

[Peach]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

<on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.>

Certain we will need to do more.

First, as many economic sanctions as possible, then see what the reaction of the Russian people is, it is to hoped they rein this wannabe Soviet in.

 

[dilloduck]

3 Putin Allies Among 8 Hit With New EU Sanctions - ABC News

<on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.>

Certain we will need to do more.

First, as many economic sanctions as possible, then see what the reaction of the Russian people is, it is to hoped they rein this wannabe Soviet in.

So in effect you would like to see the US destroy the Russian economy ?

 

[Peach]

<on building a bridge from Russia to Crimea, the EU said.

Also targeted was Yuri Kovalchuk, a longtime Putin acquaintance identified by the EU as co-founder of the Ozero Dacha, a cooperative society bringing together influential individuals around Russia's president. Kovalchuk is also the chairman and largest shareholder of Bank Rossiya, which has opened branches in Crimea since its unilateral annexation by Russia.

The third Putin ally on the sanctions list was Nikolai Shamalov, another Ozero Dacha co-founder and the second largest shareholder in Bank Rossiya.

Rotenberg and Kovalchuk have been subject to similar U.S. sanctions since March.>

Certain we will need to do more.

First, as many economic sanctions as possible, then see what the reaction of the Russian people is, it is to hoped they rein this wannabe Soviet in.

So in effect you would like to see the US destroy the Russian economy ?

That is Putin's decision, and that of the Russian people.

 

[dilloduck]

First, as many economic sanctions as possible, then see what the reaction of the Russian people is, it is to hoped they rein this wannabe Soviet in.

So in effect you would like to see the US destroy the Russian economy ?

That is Putin's decision, and that of the Russian people.

I'm asking you personally----Is this something that you would like to see happen ?

 

[wavingrl]

This is ridiculous---

If the 2 choices are----

A/Putin's vision---restore USSR to former glory and I would have to presume former mission

or
B/employ diplomatic means to allow the global community to function as effectively as possible

then I choose B--for all the good that might do.

I don't care what Putin wants---that is a given--seems to be living in the past.

 

[Katzndogz]

The EU will not let the Russian economy be destroyed. The sanctions exist only in obama's head. Thankfully, Merkle and Putin are negotiating a real agreement. They are real heads of state, so I hope they are successful.

 

[dilloduck]

This is ridiculous---

If the 2 choices are----

A/Putin's vision---restore USSR to former glory and I would have to presume former mission

or
B/employ diplomatic means to allow the global community to function as effectively as possible

then I choose B--for all the good that might do.

I don't care what Putin wants---that is a given--seems to be living in the past.

he's doing nothing that other powers in the world aren't also doing. Seeking to improve his countries power and economy.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Sanctions only hurt people they rarely hurt Governments.

Besides, Russia is signing agreements with China, Brazil and India and is courting Germany to dump the dollar.

THAT is why you see all these anti-Putin stories. No other reason.

 

[Peach]

Sanctions only hurt people they rarely hurt Governments.

Besides, Russia is signing agreements with China, Brazil and India and is courting Germany to dump the dollar.

THAT is why you see all these anti-Putin stories. No other reason.

BRIC(s) is already starting to crumble:

BRICs &#8212; primarily Brazil, Russia, India and China &#8212; comprise some of the largest and most-developed global emerging markets, not fared well overall this year. But they are once again being considered by investors as they take a closer look at some battered, and possibly bargain-priced, stocks.

Overall, many investors have been fleeing emerging markets. For the first seven months of the year, emerging market equity funds had a net outflow of $4.5 billion, as global investors scurried back to the US and Europe, lured by the idea that US interest rates could rise &#8212; a boon to investment returns &#8212; if the Federal Reserve winds down its long-running stimulus program, as widely expected.

BBC - Capital - Investors see bargains in Brazil, Russia, India, China

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324677204578188400990457408

 

[wavingrl]

This is ridiculous---

If the 2 choices are----

A/Putin's vision---restore USSR to former glory and I would have to presume former mission

or
B/employ diplomatic means to allow the global community to function as effectively as possible

then I choose B--for all the good that might do.

I don't care what Putin wants---that is a given--seems to be living in the past.

he's doing nothing that other powers in the world aren't also doing. Seeking to improve his countries power and economy.

no need for me to offer an alternative explanation then.

thinking to myself--if 'we all' do this--????

that has been tried in the past--someone else can provide a timeline.

 

[Claudette]

I doubt the sanctions will bother Russia at all.

As for Putin? He's popular in his country and I'd venture to say he'll be around for quite some time.

 

[Peach]

I doubt the sanctions will bother Russia at all.

As for Putin? He's popular in his country and I'd venture to say he'll be around for quite some time.

If he alters his goals, so be it; right now he needs to concern himself with the crumbling economy, not more conquest.