Russia's Putin calls John Kerry a liar on Syria

[R.C. Christian]

This is a probably a false flag. There is evidence that is true but it is not a home run. If that evidence is ever exposed then this nation will tear itself apart if justice isn't served. This assumes we live through this madness.

 

[freedombecki]

Just read that putin is sending a missile shield to syria.

Putin is not being upfront. Syria served alQaeda and reinforced them when they were busy killing 1700 + American troops in Iraq. IOW, 1700 of our men and women who gave their lives fighting over there would be alive today if Syria had left well enough alone and minded their own damn business. They didn't. They had their finger in all anti-American pies over there, and this has been going on a long time.

Putin's furnishing of Syria with dismissive strikes to their war machine is grim. Very grim.

 

[dilloduck]

Russia is not going to stand by and let Syria and the Russian navy base fall into al quaeda hands. Putin will not stand back and watch Syria turn into another Libya.

This entire civil war is obama's fault. Had he not given support to the al quaeda alfiliate rebels Assad would have put that rebellion down in days. All those people would still be alive but for obama's interference.

If the little o had an ounce of sense he would have negotiated a cease fire directly with Putin and secured the chemical weapons under Russian authority at that military base. Little o has no plans to deal with those weapons. Perhaps the great and powerful o can just wish them into the cornfield.

Little o gets more odious every day and his bumbleberry Kerry is no better.

Diplomacy ? As in working towards a peaceful settlement by talking ? bah---now that's just silly talk.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Diplomacy ? As in working towards a peaceful settlement by talking ?

according to the Russians kerry is refusing to talk

Russia accuses U.S. of avoiding direct contacts with Moscow over Syria

MOSCOW, Sept. 4 (Xinhua) -- Russian Foreign Ministry accused on Wednesday the United States of steadily avoiding direct contacts with Moscow over developments around Syria.

"Commencing Saturday, August 31, the U.S. State Department repeatedly requested phone call with (Russian Foreign Minister) Sergei Lavrov. Although we have constantly confirmed it, the U.S. side every time informed us there was no possibility to get through to the Secretary of State," ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich told reporters.

He added that Russian attempts to set up an exact time for a phone conversation with John Kerry have also been left unanswered.

In a separate statement, the Foreign Ministry said U.S. intentions to carry out a military strike against Syria would contradict the core of international law.

"Response of the international community and separate states on chemical weapons use must fit the strict legal frames. Any reaction must be backed by the results of a thorough independent investigation," it said.

Moscow said if Damascus actually used chemical weapons, it could be qualified as violation of the international law.

Meanwhile, any potential military action against Syria without UN Security Council's sanction would "carry all attributes of aggression," the ministry said.

Earlier on Wednesday, President Vladimir Putin also called the steps that Washington is considering now in relation to Syria "an aggression and absurd."

"They are sanctioning aggression because anything that is beyond the UN Security Council framework except self-defense is aggression," Putin told a meeting of the presidential Human Rights Council.

"What the U.S. Senate is doing now is in fact legitimizing aggression. What we should be talking about is that this is absurd in principle," Putin said.

Russia accuses U.S. of avoiding direct contacts with Moscow over Syria - Xinhua | English.news.cn

read the UN article as well
UN chief warns against war rush on Syria, stressing probe needed

 

[TemplarKormac]

And I am by no means endorsing this war. What Obama and our feckless Congress and Senate are doing makes my blood boil.

 

[freedombecki]

I hear you, Templar. My readings back from 1996-present of State Department warnings about Syria show a nation that has been complicit in aiding and abetting enemies of the United States such as and particularly, Saddam Hussein.

Russia needs to back down and get out of our way. We've been friends to Russia since the wall fell down in keeping them fiscally viable, and I want no damage done them as they have a lot of undoing of Bolshevik notions that failed every citizen in that country except those at the upper echelons of power, which is a stark dichotomy with a state that works for every one of its citizens. They have a beautiful country which I have had the privilege of seeing a small bit of. They have a lot of mouths to feed.

They need friends like Syria like they need another hole in their heads. Syria will only bring them down. OTOH, Russia may already be on top of it by sending Syrians stuff so complex they won't be able to use it with any finesse. I don't know.

But Syria is setting a dangerous precedent by using poisons that make a person's final day of life worse than any hell man has ever concocted. Friends like Syria can only bite you in the butt when they're done using you. Russia has been advised. They're not unsophisticated people, their ancestors put them as tops in the artistic world in their day. They can sort out the details, but they mustn't act against Americans, and I'm pretty sure they already know that underneath the bluster, they won't hurt us.

Syria better clean up its act. Fast. Bashir Assad rattled the wrong cage by damaging America's peacekeeping missions, and he had absolutely no cause to do that. None.

 

[Katzndogz]

Neither obama nor Kerry are believable any more. This regime has bought into the terrorist line completely without question and they won't respond to questions.

Other than al quaeda, where did the figure of 1,400 dead come from? Doctors without Borders reported 281. The UN gave a count of 355. Where are the rest?

What is the post strike plan and how come no one is asking? All we hear is obama's credibility.

Do democrats realize that if this goes badly it will be catastrophic? How can it not go badly with obama in charge?

 

[jon_berzerk]

the Russians say the rebels gassed the peoples

the administration scuffs that cant be the case

but the rebels captured sheik suleiman military base last December

a base that had chemical weapons

the article also talks extensively about the terrorists connected

with the capture of the base


Syria Crisis: Rebels Capture Parts Of Sheik Suleiman Army Base Near Aleppo

 

[R.C. Christian]

Isn't his majesty going to Russian tomorrow for a G-20 or something. I noticed he was in Sweden today licking sweaty, I mean Swedish Meatballs.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

This is a probably a false flag. There is evidence that is true but it is not a home run. If that evidence is ever exposed then this nation will tear itself apart if justice isn't served. This assumes we live through this madness.

Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began
1 Sep 2013 07:21

FURIOUS politicians have demanded Prime Minister David Cameron explain why chemical export licences were granted to firms last January – 10 months after the Syrian uprising began

Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began - Daily Record

I am reading that other news reports are stating these nerve gas chemicals were not being provided to the regime in Syria, they were being provided to others in Syria.

 

[R.C. Christian]

If you support Obama then you support terrorists. That means, in a very indirect way, that you should be put on a list. Allah Akbar you leftist fools.

 

[R.C. Christian]

This is a probably a false flag. There is evidence that is true but it is not a home run. If that evidence is ever exposed then this nation will tear itself apart if justice isn't served. This assumes we live through this madness.

Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began
1 Sep 2013 07:21

FURIOUS politicians have demanded Prime Minister David Cameron explain why chemical export licences were granted to firms last January – 10 months after the Syrian uprising began

Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began - Daily Record

I am reading that other news reports are stating these nerve gas chemicals were not being provided to the regime in Syria, they were being provided to others in Syria.

Yeah, I read that but thank you for posting it. This is dirty, very, very dirty. If the truth is ever revealed then there will be hell to pay.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

the Russians say the rebels gassed the peoples

the administration scuffs that cant be the case

but the rebels captured sheik suleiman military base last December

a base that had chemical weapons

the article also talks extensively about the terrorists connected

with the capture of the base


Syria Crisis: Rebels Capture Parts Of Sheik Suleiman Army Base Near Aleppo

I am seeing others address this same thing, it is certainly appearing not at all a certainty that Assad carried out this chemical weapons attack.

 

[jon_berzerk]

the Russians say the rebels gassed the peoples

the administration scuffs that cant be the case

but the rebels captured sheik suleiman military base last December

a base that had chemical weapons

the article also talks extensively about the terrorists connected

with the capture of the base


Syria Crisis: Rebels Capture Parts Of Sheik Suleiman Army Base Near Aleppo

I am seeing others address this same thing, it is certainly appearing not at all a certainty that Assad carried out this chemical weapons attack.

a similar but smaller use of chemical weapons happened earlier in the year as well

also the reports of the "dead" vary greatly

 

[freedombecki]

Neither obama nor Kerry are believable any more. This regime has bought into the terrorist line completely without question and they won't respond to questions.

Other than al quaeda, where did the figure of 1,400 dead come from? Doctors without Borders reported 281. The UN gave a count of 355. Where are the rest?

What is the post strike plan and how come no one is asking? All we hear is obama's credibility.

Do democrats realize that if this goes badly it will be catastrophic? How can it not go badly with obama in charge?

Throughout history, sometimes the low guy on the totem pole somehow comes through and wins. Somewhere along the line, Obama has seen the light of freedom and has as a consequence decided to act within the confines of the Constitution on seeking Congressional approval.

It's far better to reward a man when he picks the right path than to punish him. He's decided to go with the Constitution on this one. Reward it, and we will all benefit, because the next time he will, too.

Face it, Obama learns from his mistakes. That's a million times better than last year or even last month for that matter. It appears Kerry has too. They're both acting in America's interest to stop a dangerous man who's gone crazy using WOMDs on his own people who displease him and will carry that to war if somebody doesn't stop him now.

Our Navy, AirForce, Marines, Special Services, and Army can.

It's also a win for our black people at home if Obama does well and keeps his act clean. They need that win to hold their head high over something better than gang fights and fallen celebrities.

It's in the National Interest to punish Assad as he is punishing hundreds of Syrian children with poisons he wouldn't wish to die from, shaking from head to toe in fetal position with pain and agony. Let him stand trial for his crimes of brutally poisoning people sans trials.

 

[jon_berzerk]

This is a probably a false flag. There is evidence that is true but it is not a home run. If that evidence is ever exposed then this nation will tear itself apart if justice isn't served. This assumes we live through this madness.

Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began
1 Sep 2013 07:21

FURIOUS politicians have demanded Prime Minister David Cameron explain why chemical export licences were granted to firms last January – 10 months after the Syrian uprising began

Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after 'civil unrest' began - Daily Record

I am reading that other news reports are stating these nerve gas chemicals were not being provided to the regime in Syria, they were being provided to others in Syria.

the United States had declared jabhat al-nusra group a terrorist organization

they didnt announce it formally but it appeared in the federal register

the whole thing smells bad

 

[francoHFW]

OP- now there's a real thug, KGB all the way. a disgrace. Perfect ally of Rush Seanbeck...

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Russia's Putin calls John Kerry a liar on Syria | European Headlines | World News | Comcast


MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin has called U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry a liar for denying that al-Qaida was fighting with the Syrian opposition in that country's civil war.

Speaking Wednesday to his human rights council, Putin recalled watching a congressional debate where Kerry was asked about al-Qaida and denied that it was operating in Syria, even though he was aware of the al-Qaida-linked Jabhat al-Nusra group.

Putin said: "This was very unpleasant and surprising for me. We talk to them (the Americans) and we assume they are decent people, but he is lying and he knows that he is lying. This is sad."

Putin repeated Russia's position that any use of military force against Syria without the approval of the U.N. Security Council would be an act of aggression.

Putin would like to kick Obamas ass and Kerry at the same time.

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Did Putin also mention he hates America and everything it stands for?

For fucksake you morons, RUSSIA IS A COUNTRY WITH A FUCKING BLASPHEMY LAW. That's right - you can actually go to jail for up to THREE YEARS in Russia for Blaspheming. IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT MAKES RUSSIA A BACKWARDS ASS POS COUNTRY THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT WERE IT NOT FOR ITS OIL - you should fucking MOVE THERE.

 

[R.C. Christian]

No shit, what is your point? You think that because we give Putin cred for his positive points that we'd overlook his bad points? You're very naive.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

No shit, what is your point? You think that because we give Putin cred for his positive points that we'd overlook his bad points? You're very naive.

I think you'd love living in Russia. Bigots like David Duke have had good times there.