SavannahMann
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Do you even know what the Sanctuary Cities are doing? When an illegal immigrant is arrested the city notifies the ICE agents. Then ICE says hold onto them for a couple days until we feel like coming to get them. The city says no and releases the person on bail or with time served or with a notice to appear. The same as they do for every other person they arrest for a minor crime.
The city does not prevent ICE from running raids or arresting the illegals anytime they want. The cities will hold the guy if there is a valid warrant for them. But a request is asking for a favor. If someone asks you for a favor you are free to say no.
The other thing that Sanctuary Cities do is refuse to provide police support for an ICE raid. If you as an ICE agent want to, that is your business. The local police won't hinder you but won't assist either.
The same is true of legalization of Marijuana. The DEA can still arrest people. But the local cops aren't going to. The reason the DEA doesn't is because the Jury is likely to find the defendant not guilty based upon those state laws.
Federal Agents still have all the authority they had before any of this. What they don't have is the local cops rushing about at their whim. The DEA could flood Colorado with agents and arrest people for Marijuana every day. Then the trial and aforementioned jury nullification which is a time honored power the jury always have. It is the same power the Jury exercise when a cop is caught abusing a prisoner when they find the cop not guilty.
Now calling this a crime against the Feds is stretching the meaning of the word crime all out of proportion. Let's say you see a cop arresting a guy. The cop says hold on to this guy while I go talk to that woman. You say no. You are under no legal obligation to assist the officer. He can't deputize you without your consent. You have committed no crime. He can order you to disperse. You are not allowed to withhold information about a crime. But you are in no way required to render assistance.
The stories about an armed citizen shooting the person beating a cop have been in the news before. But let's say I am the first on the scene. I have no obligation to pull my pistol and shoot the man. I would be committing no crime by pulling out the popcorn and watching the events unfold. I am a witness and am required by law to inform the police of what I saw. I am not required to take any action.
The same is true of an accident scene. I am allowed to render aid. I am not required to do so except in Alaska where leaving a person stranded is attempted murder.
I may not be a "good" person. But I am not a criminal. The cities and states are within their rights to refuse requests for assistance. If they refuse a warrant then they are committing a crime.
The city does not prevent ICE from running raids or arresting the illegals anytime they want. The cities will hold the guy if there is a valid warrant for them. But a request is asking for a favor. If someone asks you for a favor you are free to say no.
The other thing that Sanctuary Cities do is refuse to provide police support for an ICE raid. If you as an ICE agent want to, that is your business. The local police won't hinder you but won't assist either.
The same is true of legalization of Marijuana. The DEA can still arrest people. But the local cops aren't going to. The reason the DEA doesn't is because the Jury is likely to find the defendant not guilty based upon those state laws.
Federal Agents still have all the authority they had before any of this. What they don't have is the local cops rushing about at their whim. The DEA could flood Colorado with agents and arrest people for Marijuana every day. Then the trial and aforementioned jury nullification which is a time honored power the jury always have. It is the same power the Jury exercise when a cop is caught abusing a prisoner when they find the cop not guilty.
Now calling this a crime against the Feds is stretching the meaning of the word crime all out of proportion. Let's say you see a cop arresting a guy. The cop says hold on to this guy while I go talk to that woman. You say no. You are under no legal obligation to assist the officer. He can't deputize you without your consent. You have committed no crime. He can order you to disperse. You are not allowed to withhold information about a crime. But you are in no way required to render assistance.
The stories about an armed citizen shooting the person beating a cop have been in the news before. But let's say I am the first on the scene. I have no obligation to pull my pistol and shoot the man. I would be committing no crime by pulling out the popcorn and watching the events unfold. I am a witness and am required by law to inform the police of what I saw. I am not required to take any action.
The same is true of an accident scene. I am allowed to render aid. I am not required to do so except in Alaska where leaving a person stranded is attempted murder.
I may not be a "good" person. But I am not a criminal. The cities and states are within their rights to refuse requests for assistance. If they refuse a warrant then they are committing a crime.