Sanders just submitted college for all bill.

[Arianrhod]

So, you're conceding that you can't - or rather, don't want to - answer it?

It's like the discussion we've had about health insurance. You don't like my answers, so you pretend I haven't answered you. Then you claim "it's not a discussion." Then you pop up in another thread and make the same claims.

State universities in the U.S. used to be tuition-free. That didn't result in your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s-1970s, and you can't explain why you believe it would now.

So you just keep asking your "What if the Easter Bunny really did lay eggs?" question. I'm going to go talk to the adults.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Two words: hedge funds.

Your fucking point?

If you looked at your own copy and paste, it isn't just hedge funds. It is ALL stock transactions.

What's funny is the same people screaming "No bailout! Let 'em die!" RE: investment banks are now weeping crocodile tears about the Poor Widdle Speculators having to pay a small fee per transaction to the government that bailed them out in the first place.

Or is it only because of that Big Scary Word "socialist" that y'all have your panties in a wad?

weeping crocodile tears about the Poor Widdle Speculators having to pay a small fee per transaction to the government that bailed them out in the first place.

Yeah, hundreds of billions in new taxes that impact my investment accounts is something I'm against.
I guess the lost jobs will just be a bonus.

 

[Arianrhod]

Two words: hedge funds.

Your fucking point?

If you looked at your own copy and paste, it isn't just hedge funds. It is ALL stock transactions.

What's funny is the same people screaming "No bailout! Let 'em die!" RE: investment banks are now weeping crocodile tears about the Poor Widdle Speculators having to pay a small fee per transaction to the government that bailed them out in the first place.

Or is it only because of that Big Scary Word "socialist" that y'all have your panties in a wad?

weeping crocodile tears about the Poor Widdle Speculators having to pay a small fee per transaction to the government that bailed them out in the first place.

Yeah, hundreds of billions in new taxes that impact my investment accounts is something I'm against.
I guess the lost jobs will just be a bonus.

There you are with your "hundreds of billions" again. Make sure to click your heels three times before you post it again.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sanders is a decent, honorable, man of good faith – and as a consequence unqualified to be president.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Two words: hedge funds.

Your fucking point?

If you looked at your own copy and paste, it isn't just hedge funds. It is ALL stock transactions.

What's funny is the same people screaming "No bailout! Let 'em die!" RE: investment banks are now weeping crocodile tears about the Poor Widdle Speculators having to pay a small fee per transaction to the government that bailed them out in the first place.

Or is it only because of that Big Scary Word "socialist" that y'all have your panties in a wad?

weeping crocodile tears about the Poor Widdle Speculators having to pay a small fee per transaction to the government that bailed them out in the first place.

Yeah, hundreds of billions in new taxes that impact my investment accounts is something I'm against.
I guess the lost jobs will just be a bonus.

There you are with your "hundreds of billions" again. Make sure to click your heels three times before you post it again.

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street.
This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge fund
s, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee
on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could
raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges
and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the
middle class of this country.

Sanders just submitted college for all bill. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Can I laugh at your idiocy when you disavow your own post?

 

[dblack]

So, you're conceding that you can't - or rather, don't want to - answer it?

It's like the discussion we've had about health insurance. You don't like my answers, so you pretend I haven't answered you.

Bullshit. You haven't answered at all. You simply pretend I asked something else, or made claims that I never did, and go off on a tangent. It's deliberate evasion. It's essentially conceding that your views aren't defensible.

State universities in the U.S. used to be tuition-free. That didn't result in your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s-1970s, and you can't explain why you believe it would now.

The Easter Bunny scenario is your diversion. I'm asking for your conception of the purpose of government, or, if that's too abstract for you, I'm asking you to say why we should provide healthcare and education and and not provide the other necessities of life. But you are afraid of the answer. Because there isn't a good one.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sanders is a decent, honorable, man of good faith – and as a consequence unqualified to be president.

You're right about unqualified.

 

[Arianrhod]

So, you're conceding that you can't - or rather, don't want to - answer it?

It's like the discussion we've had about health insurance. You don't like my answers, so you pretend I haven't answered you.

Bullshit. You haven't answered at all.

See, there you go again.

Explain why a tuition-free education didn't lead to your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s.

 

[dblack]

So, you're conceding that you can't - or rather, don't want to - answer it?

It's like the discussion we've had about health insurance. You don't like my answers, so you pretend I haven't answered you.

Bullshit. You haven't answered at all.

See, there you go again.

Explain why a tuition-free education didn't lead to your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s.

I'm not making that claim. At all. So there's nothing to explain.

And... you still haven't answered the question. Where does it end? If government is responsible for providing us with "free" education and health care, why shouldn't it provide us with "free" food and shelter? Or, do you think that it should provide those things as well? What limits do think should exist on government power? Any at all?

I have a ten dollar bet that you'll dodge again. You have a chance to make me pay.

 

[Arianrhod]

Explain why a tuition-free education didn't lead to your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s.

I'm not making that claim. At all. So there's nothing to explain.

Then what's this?

If government is responsible for providing us with "free" education and health care, why shouldn't it provide us with "free" food and shelter?

???

 

[dblack]

Explain why a tuition-free education didn't lead to your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s.

I'm not making that claim. At all. So there's nothing to explain.

Then what's this?

If government is responsible for providing us with "free" education and health care, why shouldn't it provide us with "free" food and shelter?

???

Payday! (thx)

That's the same question I've been asking you over and over again. I'm not asking if it's viable (I think it's utterly un-viable), and I'm not predicting that anything will necessarily "lead" to anything else (I'm not making the slippery-slope argument). I'm just trying to understand the underlying political philosophy. Because, ultimately, that's what guides policy. That's what we vote for. We can't know the exact issues and laws that a candidate, or party, will be asked to address. But we can ask questions about the premises they have regarding government. And with that we can have some idea of what to expect when the unexpected arises.

 

[Arianrhod]

Explain why a tuition-free education didn't lead to your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s.

I'm not making that claim. At all. So there's nothing to explain.

Then what's this?

If government is responsible for providing us with "free" education and health care, why shouldn't it provide us with "free" food and shelter?

???

Payday! (thx)

That's the same question I've been asking you over and over again. I'm not asking if it's viable (I think it's utterly un-viable), and I'm not predicting that anything will necessarily "lead" to anything else (I'm not making the slippery-slope argument). I'm just trying to understand the underlying political philosophy. Because, ultimately, that's what guides policy. That's what we vote for. We can't know the exact issues and laws that a candidate, or party, will be asked to address. But we can ask questions about the premises they have regarding government. And with that we can have some idea of what to expect when the unexpected arises.

And I'm saying "historically it didn't happen last time, so it's not clear to me why you believe it will happen now."

 

[dblack]

Explain why a tuition-free education didn't lead to your Easter Bunny scenario in the 1950s, 1960s, or 1970s.

I'm not making that claim. At all. So there's nothing to explain.

Then what's this?

If government is responsible for providing us with "free" education and health care, why shouldn't it provide us with "free" food and shelter?

???

Payday! (thx)

That's the same question I've been asking you over and over again. I'm not asking if it's viable (I think it's utterly un-viable), and I'm not predicting that anything will necessarily "lead" to anything else (I'm not making the slippery-slope argument). I'm just trying to understand the underlying political philosophy. Because, ultimately, that's what guides policy. That's what we vote for. We can't know the exact issues and laws that a candidate, or party, will be asked to address. But we can ask questions about the premises they have regarding government. And with that we can have some idea of what to expect when the unexpected arises.

And I'm saying "historically it didn't happen last time, so it's not clear to me why you believe it will happen now."

Wow.. you're utterly dense! I just told I don't believe that it will - in the very paragraph you're responding to. I can't decide if this is an honest mental block for you, or you're just being deliberately obtuse.

 

[Arianrhod]

I just told I don't believe that it will.

So you just answered your own question.

What would you like to talk about next?

 

[dblack]

I just told I don't believe that it will.

So you just answered your own question.

What would you like to talk about next?

I'd like you to explain why we should provide a free college education but not free food or housing. Aren't food and shelter even more important than a college education?

But for some reason you won't. What are you so afraid of?

 

[Arianrhod]

I'd like you to explain why we should provide a free college education but not free food or housing. Aren't food and shelter even more important than a college education?

Are you unaware of the safety nets extant in the U.S.?

 

[dblack]

I'd like you to explain why we should provide a free college education but not free food or housing. Aren't food and shelter even more important than a college education?

Are you unaware of the safety nets extant in the U.S.?

Coward.

 

[rightwinger]

My plan would provide free online college courses to anyone who wants to take them. All accredited universities would be required to accept them.

 

[Arianrhod]

I'd like you to explain why we should provide a free college education but not free food or housing. Aren't food and shelter even more important than a college education?

Are you unaware of the safety nets extant in the U.S.?

Coward.

Is not a synonym for "knowledgeable." I think I see the problem here...

 

[Conservative65]

My plan would provide free online college courses to anyone who wants to take them. All accredited universities would be required to accept them.

Just another Liberal thinking someone is owed something they don't deserve.