Sanders planning "Major Speech" on democratic socialism

[RandomVariable]

You have a 401k?

I'm a financial advisor, CFP, ChFC/CLU.

Several businesses with 401k plans as clients, several clients with 401k plans.
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Do you have a 401k?

Did he ever answer the question?

No. I will give him points for not lying and saying he does.

I guess I thought it would be obvious.

Of course I have a 401K. And a Roth IRA.

Why?
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Why would you have a 401k and a IRA? Don't you ever review your finances?

 

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WE GET IT; you want, no demand the right to decide how much is too much, and how much is enough, for everybody in the country



thanks comrade

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(Man running and screaming wildly.)

 

[bedowin62]

WE GET IT; you want, no demand the right to decide how much is too much, and how much is enough, for everybody in the country



thanks comrade

NOT VISIBLE (not that i care)

(Man running and screaming wildly.)

YAWN

 

[Correll]

nobody on the right is for no government; and the programs being run by the government providing services which we used dont HAVE to be run by the government.
libs are morons incapable of debate without using straw man arguements.

Businesses are designed to maximize profit. Something has to counter the destructive edge to that sword.

ur right; a "counter" that is a governernment more than $100 TRILLION in debt is so much better

So you agree the system is broken?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

Is that a 'yes'?

Why should I answer your questions when you do not answer mine?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

 

[Mac1958]

I'm a financial advisor, CFP, ChFC/CLU.

Several businesses with 401k plans as clients, several clients with 401k plans.
.

Do you have a 401k?

Did he ever answer the question?

No. I will give him points for not lying and saying he does.

I guess I thought it would be obvious.

Of course I have a 401K. And a Roth IRA.

Why?
.

Why would you have a 401k and a IRA? Don't you ever review your finances?

Because the 401K is current and I can contribute far more to it. Also because the Roth is for after-tax money.

Looks like you don't know much about this.

You're playing a game here, asking a financial advisor if he ever reviews his finances.

Get to your point, or do you have one?
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[bedowin62]

Businesses are designed to maximize profit. Something has to counter the destructive edge to that sword.

ur right; a "counter" that is a governernment more than $100 TRILLION in debt is so much better

So you agree the system is broken?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

Is that a 'yes'?

Why should I answer your questions when you do not answer mine?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

IF PROGRESSIVES DONT HAVE THE MORAL COURAGE TO admit they are socialists you know a full-blown communist will never admit what he is advocating is communism

 

[RandomVariable]

ur right; a "counter" that is a governernment more than $100 TRILLION in debt is so much better

So you agree the system is broken?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

Is that a 'yes'?

Why should I answer your questions when you do not answer mine?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

IF PROGRESSIVES DONT HAVE THE MORAL COURAGE TO admit they are socialists you know a full-blown communist will never admit what he is advocating is communism

You're so smart it must hurt.

 

[RandomVariable]

Do you have a 401k?

Did he ever answer the question?

No. I will give him points for not lying and saying he does.

I guess I thought it would be obvious.

Of course I have a 401K. And a Roth IRA.

Why?
.

Why would you have a 401k and a IRA? Don't you ever review your finances?

Because the 401K is current and I can contribute far more to it. Also because the Roth is for after-tax money.

Looks like you don't know much about this.

You're playing a game here, asking a financial advisor if he ever reviews his finances.

Get to your point, or do you have one?
.

Yes, I do. 100% long term bond.

 

[Mac1958]

Did he ever answer the question?

No. I will give him points for not lying and saying he does.

I guess I thought it would be obvious.

Of course I have a 401K. And a Roth IRA.

Why?
.

Why would you have a 401k and a IRA? Don't you ever review your finances?

Because the 401K is current and I can contribute far more to it. Also because the Roth is for after-tax money.

Looks like you don't know much about this.

You're playing a game here, asking a financial advisor if he ever reviews his finances.

Get to your point, or do you have one?
.

Yes, I do. 100% long term bond.

Good luck with that when interest rates go up.

What does any of this have to do with 401K plans?
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[Correll]

ur right; a "counter" that is a governernment more than $100 TRILLION in debt is so much better

So you agree the system is broken?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

Is that a 'yes'?

Why should I answer your questions when you do not answer mine?

You still have not said what your alternative is.

Are you a communist?

IF PROGRESSIVES DONT HAVE THE MORAL COURAGE TO admit they are socialists you know a full-blown communist will never admit what he is advocating is communism

Yep.

 

[DonaldFG]

Socialists all should pistol whipped in their sleep...

All those who commit corporate criminal behavior should be in jail.

 

[bedowin62]

socialists are also corporate criminals. george soros comes to mind

 

[DonaldFG]

He does try here: What is a democratic socialist? Bernie Sanders tries to redefine the name.

“What democratic socialism means to me,” Sanders said during a recent speech in New Hampshire, “is having a government which represents all people, rather than just the wealthiest people, which is most often the case right now in this country.”

Somebody needs to ask Bernie what the hell this has to do with socialism in the first place because it would appear that he doesn't understand what socialism really is (common ownership of the means of production and production for use), he is just changing the definition of the word to suit his political needs, the definition he outlines here is so broad and excludes the economic specifics of what is generally understood as socialism that it is essentially meaningless.

Things get redefined over time as people and their ideas change. NOTHING is carved in stone, except the Ten Commandments for some people.

Here we are talking about "social policies" that promote the common good. That is the core meaning. If we don't work for the common good, we are working for the common destruction. Unfortunately, capitalism has done mostly the latter. We all need to get on-board the common good train if we want to survive for the long term.

 

[DonaldFG]

I've been successful following the personal responsibility system I practice. Why would I get out of something that has provided great success for me?

That's the problem with many people who are doing well. They don't care about anyone else. Hey, we are all in the same boat; it's called Earth.

 

[bedowin62]

I've been successful following the personal responsibility system I practice. Why would I get out of something that has provided great success for me?

That's the problem with many people who are doing well. They don't care about anyone else. Hey, we are all in the same boat; it's called Earth.

i'm so tired of sanctimonius morons; there is no evidence the people you're whining about care any less for people that dont have as much. it's all in the minds of people who NEED to feel morally superior to others

 

[DonaldFG]

nobody on the right is for no government; and the programs being run by the government providing services which we used dont HAVE to be run by the government.
libs are morons incapable of debate without using straw man arguements.

Grover Norquist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia famously said this:

"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

Sounds like abolishment to me.

 

[The Rabbi]

Wealthy successful people donate far more money to various causes than poor people. The wealth envy in this country is disgusting and the demonization of success will lead to ruin.

 

[Conservative65]

I've been successful following the personal responsibility system I practice. Why would I get out of something that has provided great success for me?

That's the problem with many people who are doing well. They don't care about anyone else. Hey, we are all in the same boat; it's called Earth.

Yet you think those who you expect us to support actually give a damn about where that support comes from.

If we're all in the same boat, let those that are doing the riding start paddling. You lefties constantly talk about equality until it comes time for those who haven't been providing up to the same level to start doing so.

 

[Correll]

I've been successful following the personal responsibility system I practice. Why would I get out of something that has provided great success for me?

That's the problem with many people who are doing well. They don't care about anyone else. Hey, we are all in the same boat; it's called Earth.

Yet you think those who you expect us to support actually give a damn about where that support comes from.

If we're all in the same boat, let those that are doing the riding start paddling. You lefties constantly talk about equality until it comes time for those who haven't been providing up to the same level to start doing so.

They want equality of outcome with no proportionality between contribution to society and reward from society.

 

[NightFox]

He does try here: What is a democratic socialist? Bernie Sanders tries to redefine the name.

“What democratic socialism means to me,” Sanders said during a recent speech in New Hampshire, “is having a government which represents all people, rather than just the wealthiest people, which is most often the case right now in this country.”

Somebody needs to ask Bernie what the hell this has to do with socialism in the first place because it would appear that he doesn't understand what socialism really is (common ownership of the means of production and production for use), he is just changing the definition of the word to suit his political needs, the definition he outlines here is so broad and excludes the economic specifics of what is generally understood as socialism that it is essentially meaningless.

Things get redefined over time as people and their ideas change. NOTHING is carved in stone, except the Ten Commandments for some people.

Here we are talking about "social policies" that promote the common good. That is the core meaning.

That's a meaningless definition, the purpose of government is for the "common good" if it wasn't then human beings would not bother to institute them, however the devil is in the details since governments throughout recorded history have tended to result in the very specific good (of those in control of it or having close connections to those in control of it) and to the detriment of the citizenry at large. The founders understood this which was one of the core reasons they created the Constitution as an instrument to explicitly limit the authority of central government (i.e. they learned from history before putting pen to paper)

If we don't work for the common good, we are working for the common destruction. Unfortunately, capitalism has done mostly the latter. We all need to get on-board the common good train if we want to survive for the long term.

So your argument is that capitalism, the economic system which has lifted more human beings out of substance level poverty than any other economic system in the recorded history of mankind has mostly resulted in the "common destruction"? Have you taken a look at the history of the alternatives to capitalism? What economic system(s) in your opinion has created more broad based prosperity than capitalism?