Santos Expelled from House

[Billo_Really]

New Yorkers.

Yup.

 

[Failzero]

Gaetz wanted Santos to stay , so Santos had to go

 

[otto105]

But wasn’t he no longer a member as of the day they voted him out?

Yes, once the resolution passed it was a change the locks on the door deal. The house stands at 434 members.

 

[berg80]

Go suck on Potato’s Depends.

Again, I don’t mind that the freak got kicked out. But there was no real rush. It could have and should have awaited a conviction.

A denial of the presumption of innocence (despite what you libturds claim) is a denial of due process

Go suck on Potato’s Depends.

Again, I don’t mind that the freak got kicked out. But there was no real rush. It could have and should have awaited a conviction.

A denial of the presumption of innocence (despite what you libturds claim) is a denial of due process

The standard of a presumption of innocence and due process in our criminal system applies because being found guilty in a court of law can lead to a loss of one's liberty. It is not the congressional standard to warrant expulsion. George declined the offer to participate in the Ethics committee's investigation. A body who subsequently issued a damning report based on the evidence it revealed.
He was found to have violated the ethics rules of the House in extraordinarily egregious ways and faces a criminal indictment for crimes the ethics committee found a presumption of guilt based on the evidence.
Your argument does not hold up to scrutiny.

 

[BackAgain]

The standard of a presumption of innocence and due process in our criminal system applies because being found guilty in a court of law can lead to a loss of one's liberty. It is not the congressional standard. George declined the offer to participate in the Ethics committee's investigation. A body who subsequently issued a damning report based on the evidence it revealed.
He was found to have violated the ethics rules of the House in extraordinarily egregious ways and faces a criminal indictment for crimes the ethics committee found a presumption of guilt.
Your argument does not hold up to scrutiny.

Wrong. It has to apply in the criminal court setting

But nobody ever said it was exclusive to the criminal court setting.

You remain a victim of serious educational malpractice.

 

[berg80]

But nobody ever said it was exclusive to the criminal court setting.

Nobody ever said it had to apply to matters concerning being expelled from Congress. And it doesn't. George wasn't sent to jail, he was sent home.

 

[berg80]

Wrong. It has to apply in the criminal court setting

But nobody ever said it was exclusive to the criminal court setting.

You remain a victim of serious educational malpractice.

Amid a deferral request from DOJ and Representative Santos’ obfuscation and delay, the ISC expeditiously compiled a voluminous record consisting of over 170,000 pages of documents and testimony from dozens of witnesses, including financial statements, contemporaneous communications, and other materials. That record demonstrated the breadth of Representative Santos’ misconduct. As discussed in the ISC’s Report:

Representative Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his House candidacy for his own personal financial profit.

He blatantly stole from his campaign.

He deceived donors into providing what they thought were contributions to his campaign but were in fact payments for his personal benefit.

He reported fictitious loans to his political committees to induce donors and party committees to make further contributions to his campaign – and then diverted more campaign money to himself as purported “repayments” of those fictitious loans.

He used his connections to high value donors and other political campaigns to obtain additional funds for himself through fraudulent or otherwise questionable business dealings.

And he sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents, donors, and staff about his background and experience.

That is more than enough evidence to warrant being kicked to the curb.

 

[Blaster]

Santos is out and a special election looms. How it will work.

New York party leaders prepare for hotly contested faceoff, likely in February

www.politico.com

 

[BackAgain]

Nobody ever said it had to apply to matters concerning being expelled from Congress. And it doesn't. George wasn't sent to jail, he was sent home.

Nobody ever had cause to assume that it wouldn’t apply to an expulsion proceeding.

Again, you mistakenly ASSume that it only applies in criminal proceedings. You twerp.

 

[BackAgain]

A presumption of innocence applies in civil as well as criminal matters. ( Fisher v. Superior Court (1980) 103 Cal.App.3d 434, 448, 163 Cal.Rptr. 47; see Evid.Code, 520

How about that?

 

[berg80]

Again, you mistakenly ASSume that it only applies in criminal proceedings. You twerp.

If it doesn't Santos would have grounds to appeal the House vote. BUT HE DOESN'T. Expulsion, like impeachment, is not a criminal proceeding...........ASShat.

 

[rightwinger]

The standard of a presumption of innocence and due process in our criminal system applies because being found guilty in a court of law can lead to a loss of one's liberty. It is not the congressional standard to warrant expulsion. George declined the offer to participate in the Ethics committee's investigation. A body who subsequently issued a damning report based on the evidence it revealed.
He was found to have violated the ethics rules of the House in extraordinarily egregious ways and faces a criminal indictment for crimes the ethics committee found a presumption of guilt based on the evidence.
Your argument does not hold up to scrutiny.

If your child’s teacher was arrested for child molesting, would you be willing to wait for a guilty verdict before they get rid of him?

Santos was a cancer on Congress
He should have resigned his seat a year ago

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Orangecat]

Who is this "everyone" you refer too? Polls say that only 3 in 10 Americans think that Biden stole the election. The same 3 in 10 people who think Trump was a great President.
In fact fewer and fewer Americans think that Trump is innocent of all charges and fit to run for office. You may be gullible enough to think that Trump should go free. Most Americans disagree,
Schiff didn't lie about anything. Trump did. Russian "collusion" has been proven. If you think otherwise, you're the liar.

LOLOLOL.
Go fuck your ignorant self, Canada Karen.

 

[BackAgain]

If it doesn't Santos would have grounds to appeal the House vote. BUT HE DOESN'T. Expulsion, like impeachment, is not a criminal proceeding...........ASShat.

Ignore reality.

I’m not predicting that he will do so. But Santos might very well have a right to file a lawsuit against the Sgt at Arms to compel that he be seated.

And his grounds could include a flat out denial of his constitutionally guaranteed right to the presumption of innocence.

I know you’re hopelessly ignorant and a biased hack, but seriously. It wouldn’t kill you to open your mind and accept a kernel of the truth.

Again, as I already noted, you ASShole, the presumption of innocence does apply in non criminal matters.

 

[Failzero]

Gaetz wanted Santos to stay so Santos had to go

 

[otto105]

Ignore reality.

I’m not predicting that he will do so. But Santos might very well have a right to file a lawsuit against the Sgt at Arms to compel that he be seated.

And his grounds could include a flat out denial of his constitutionally guaranteed right to the presumption of innocence.

I know you’re hopelessly ignorant and a biased hack, but seriously. It wouldn’t kill you to open your mind and accept a kernel of the truth.

Again, as I already noted, you ASShole, the presumption of innocence does apply in non criminal matters.

Bluto

It’s over just stop.

 

[rightwinger]

MAGA Republicans voted to keep their boy Santos
Includes Johnson, Boebert, Gaetz, Marjorie Trailer Queen

Traditional Republicans wanted the cancer removed from their party

 

[Failzero]

MAGA Republicans voted to keep their boy Santos
Includes Johnson, Boebert, Gaetz, Marjorie Trailer Queen

Traditional Republicans wanted the cancer removed from their party

Socially Liberal RINOs outed themselves ousting Santos

 

[Lakhota]