Scientist express horror as they see a 2.5 C increase in earth's temperature

[Grumblenuts]

 

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[Crick]

Lloyds of London estimates that the relatively small sea level rise we have experienced so far increased the storm damage from Hurricane Sandy by 30% or $80 billion.

 

[elektra]

Lloyds of London estimates that the relatively small sea level rise we have experienced so far increased the storm damage from Hurricane Sandy by 30% or $80 billion.

and, when we look at the history of the world, we can put a price tag on total storm damage, that storm damage totals $970 trillion.

another meaningless cricket comment

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lloyds of London estimates that the relatively small sea level rise we have experienced so far increased the storm damage from Hurricane Sandy by 30% or $80 billion.

I guess we need to pay higher insurance premiums, according to this insurance company.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Show us a climate scientists saying that. The proxies used in Shakun and Marcott's reconstructions came from all over the planet. GISP2 cores all come from a single location: 72.5833333N, -38.466667W. This is a point regarding ALL ice core temperature data: They are LOCAL. That is not true of other data from ice cores such as atmospheric levels of well-mixed gases

GISP2 | NSF Ice Core Facility

The National Science Foundation Ice Core Facility (NSF-ICF) — formerly the U.S. National Ice Core Laboratory (NICL) — is a facility for storing, curating, and studying meteoric ice cores recovered from the glaciated regions of the world.

icecores.org

The article I posted

Your own graph shows the Earth cooling since the HCO.

So a 450,000 year dataset is an "anomaly" because it showed CO2 lagging temperature for 450,000 consecutive years, but Shakun's imaginary proxies are more accurate?

See why no one believe AGW is science

 

[Crick]

So a 450,000 year dataset is an "anomaly" because it showed CO2 lagging temperature for 450,000 consecutive years, but Shakun's imaginary proxies are more accurate?

See why no one believe AGW is science

God you're stupid. An ice core is a temperature proxy just as much as a tree ring or a varve. Shakun's work is certainly not imaginary. Shakun and Marcotte's work on Holocene temperature reconstructions are considered the most accurate data available. And GISP2 has been known for many years and by numerous scientists as particularly unrepresentative of global trends. And how would you even KNOW what global trends actually were if not by studying proxies from all over the planet - the way Shakun and Marcotte did.

 

[Crick]

and, when we look at the history of the world, we can put a price tag on total storm damage, that storm damage totals $970 trillion.

another meaningless cricket comment

A 30% increase in damages is not a meaningless comment, fool.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

God you're stupid. An ice core is a temperature proxy just as much as a tree ring or a varve. Shakun's work is certainly not imaginary. Shakun and Marcotte's work on Holocene temperature reconstructions are considered the most accurate data available. And GISP2 has been known for many years and by numerous scientists as particularly unrepresentative of global trends. And how would you even KNOW what global trends actually were if not by studying proxies from all over the planet - the way Shakun and Marcotte did.

An ice core is a temperature proxy just as much as a tree ring or a varve.

Science is awesome!

What do the ice cores say about the quickest 10-year heating period 100,000 years ago?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A 30% increase in damages is not a meaningless comment, fool.

A 30% increase is an entirely unsupported claim.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

God you're stupid. An ice core is a temperature proxy just as much as a tree ring or a varve. Shakun's work is certainly not imaginary. Shakun and Marcotte's work on Holocene temperature reconstructions are considered the most accurate data available. And GISP2 has been known for many years and by numerous scientists as particularly unrepresentative of global trends. And how would you even KNOW what global trends actually were if not by studying proxies from all over the planet - the way Shakun and Marcotte did.

Am I stupid? No, because I don't believe your "science"

But a side by side in situ temperature vs CO2 dataset is FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR more accurate and reliable than fudging it as you go!

Sure, it sucks for the Warmers that it shows the polar opposite of your allegations, but that's science. Just look at the timeline, the dataset shows CO2 lags temperatures, so the AGWCult panics and sends Shankun out to manufacture 80 "proxies" that show the opposite.

The MOE on the proxies DWARF any reliability on the results.

On the one hand we have actual side by side data covering 450,000 consecutive years, on the other, pollen and microfossils. The AGWCult tells us the side by side 450,000 dataset is "local" but somehow the pollen and microfossils aren't?

 

[ReinyDays]

77% of Top Climate Scientists Think 2.5°C of Warming Is Coming—And They're Horrified | Common Dreams

"I expect a semi-dystopian future with substantial pain and suffering for the people of the Global South," one expert said.

www.commondreams.org

We are already seeing deadly weather extremes worldwide. Many world leaders are short sighted and ignoring the warnings. My children and grandchildren will suffer for that ignorance.

Then you must be new-born ... the 2.5ºC warming isn't due for another 100 years ... "great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren" ... and another 0.5ºC over the next 400 years ... c.f. IPCC AR5 1WG Fig 12-5 and associated text ...

We've always seen deadly weather events though all of recorded history ... Category 5 hurricanes are normal for Miami and Houston ... tornado alley has been tornado alley since the Rockies were thrust up ... there's four times as many of us, so human misery will be four times as much for the exact same weather event ... no climate change needed ...

Death counts are down ... way down ... and all your catastrophic predictions fail scientific scrutiny ... a warmer world is a wetter world, though not enough to solve our drinking water problems ... [yawn] ... warfare far and away causes more human misery ... there are better reasons to curtail our fossil fuel use ...

 

[Grumblenuts]

The MOE on the proxies DWARF

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Did you not understand what I said?

 

[Crick]

Then you must be new-born ... the 2.5ºC warming isn't due for another 100 years ... "great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren" ... and another 0.5ºC over the next 400 years ... c.f. IPCC AR5 1WG Fig 12-5 and associated text ...

Odd that you identify your source but do not provide a link or an image. So, here:

Long-term Climate Change: Projections, Commitments and Irreversibility — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

The IPCC's very consistent use of scenarios when making projections or predictions identifies absolutist comments like yours as the misinformation they are.

We've always seen deadly weather events though all of recorded history ... Category 5 hurricanes are normal for Miami and Houston

No, they are not. This diagram shows TWO Cat 5 storms actually making landfall in Dade County since 1924

... tornado alley has been tornado alley since the Rockies were thrust up ... there's four times as many of us, so human misery will be four times as much for the exact same weather event ... no climate change needed ... Death counts are down ... way down ... and all your catastrophic predictions fail scientific scrutiny ... a warmer world is a wetter world, though not enough to solve our drinking water problems ... [yawn] ... warfare far and away causes more human misery ... there are better reasons to curtail our fossil fuel use ...

Why are you ignoring improvements in weather forecasting, communications, medicine and the structural integrity of residential structures?

 

[Grumblenuts]

Did you not understand what I said?

No, this was simply a test of your sense of humor. Should any such sense ever really be expected of you, run for the nearest "EXIT."

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

A 30% increase in damages is not a meaningless comment, fool.

Driving electric cars isn't going to change anything.

 

[JimH52]

Odd that you identify your source but do not provide a link or an image. So, here:

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Long-term Climate Change: Projections, Commitments and Irreversibility — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

The IPCC's very consistent use of scenarios when making projections or predictions identifies absolutist comments like yours as the misinformation they are.

No, they are not. This diagram shows TWO Cat 5 storms actually making landfall in Dade County since 1924

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Why are you ignoring improvements in weather forecasting, communications, medicine and the structural integrity of residential structures?

Texas and Oklahoma are going to bare the brunt of climate extremes. Red states who deny climate change need to wake up. Florida, you are next....

 

[Robert W]

Lloyds of London estimates that the relatively small sea level rise we have experienced so far increased the storm damage from Hurricane Sandy by 30% or $80 billion.

Here is the irony. The nuts who want to frighten us all to death only solutions are by others and not themselves. They never tell us how they fix the climate.

 

[Crick]

Here is the irony. The nuts who want to frighten us all to death only solutions are by others and not themselves. They never tell us how they fix the climate.

You've repeatedly told me that I do not personally control the climate. Now you complain because I haven't explained how I, personally, control the climate? Where did you put your thinking cap Robert?