Secularists...Hoist By Their Own Petard

[PoliticalChic]

Don't ya' just love it when the villains get what they deserve, a dose of their own medicine?
I sure do.


1. Can you imagine....secularists squealing like stuck pigs when their own methods are used against them!
'...a consummation devoutly to be wished....'


First.....those methods....then that example.



2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense.

That's why the hatred comes out whenever they see folks who are religious.




3. The change in America, from a spiritual to a materialist entity, is largely due to the efforts of the 32nd President. He promised all sorts of material rewards, if America would only give up the individualism, and freedoms that the Founders embodied in the Constitution.
He promised rewards such as

· Employment(right to work)

· Food, clothing and leisure, viaenough income to support them

· Farmers' rights to a fair income

· Freedom fromunfair competitionandmonopolies

· Housing

· Medical care

· Social security
FDR’s Second Bill of Rights
Kind of a 'worker's paradise,' huh?
I wonder where he got that idea.



4. And for these material benefits, all Americans had to do was give up our birthright...Individuals who have had the benefit of an education recognize this.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


5. While America was founded on this view:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams

...it has become inculcated with this one:

" Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people. Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by religious beliefs and/or practices."
Secularism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


....the very antithesis of 'a moral and religious people.'
The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

Your mind is like a mixed salad of delusion, crazy, hypocrisy, lies and a twist of a bizarre and unwarranted self confidence.

Now, focus like a laser:
Why are you never able to point to any specific part of the post to which you are apparently responding, and find fault with same?

Why is that?

Are you catering to your mental imbalance?

Suffering from the lack of education in government schooling?

Or....as I suspect.....

...the post at issue is unassailable, undeniable and, essentially.....PERFECT!

 

[rightwinger]

Free lunches do exist?

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"




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The ignorance of this thread’s premise is exceeded only by its stupidity.

Thats our PoliticalSpice

 

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The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites. Thomas Jefferson


“The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
John Adams

“Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?”
John Adams

“The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs.”
Thomas Jefferson — Letter to James Smith, December 8, 1822

“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams


“Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.”
Thomas Paine

66. “Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.
Thomas Paine

67. “What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith.”
Thomas Paine

That hurts considering the Mail Order Bride used a Madison quote to buttress her absurd OP

 

[PoliticalChic]

Free lunches do exist?

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"

And yet another moron who would love to point to some imagined "lie," but is unable to find any.

Seems to be the default of Liberals when faced with reality.

 

[rightwinger]

Free lunches do exist?

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"

And yet another moron who would love to point to some imagined "lie," but is unable to find any.

Seems to be the default of Liberals when faced with reality.

You guys have been playing that ....Look at what a Michelle Obama lunch looks like lie for six years

Gets more inept every time you try

 

[PoliticalChic]

Free lunches do exist?

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"

And yet another moron who would love to point to some imagined "lie," but is unable to find any.

Seems to be the default of Liberals when faced with reality.

You guys have been playing that ....Look at what a Michelle Obama lunch looks like lie for six years

Gets more inept every time you try

 

[PoliticalChic]

Free lunches do exist?

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"

And yet another moron who would love to point to some imagined "lie," but is unable to find any.

Seems to be the default of Liberals when faced with reality.

You guys have been playing that ....Look at what a Michelle Obama lunch looks like lie for six years

Gets more inept every time you try

This is what I googled...

"Images for michelle obama school lunch"

That one of the pics.....



Try it yourself.



BTW....I never lie, as you just found out.

 

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***re-post

 

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Jefferson:

I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.



Seneca the Younger:

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.




church was separate from the state (Mt. 22:21; 1Cor. 5:12, 13 1 Pet. 2:13, 14



Albert Einstein:

A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.

 

[rdean]

This was also one of the pics:

Reminds me GOP school lunches:

 

[Moonglow]

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"

And yet another moron who would love to point to some imagined "lie," but is unable to find any.

Seems to be the default of Liberals when faced with reality.

You guys have been playing that ....Look at what a Michelle Obama lunch looks like lie for six years

Gets more inept every time you try

This is what I googled...

"Images for michelle obama school lunch"

That one of the pics.....



Try it yourself.



BTW....I never lie, as you just found out.

Try walking you dead ass into a real school and have lunch..

 

[2aguy]

The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

the founders were largely deists.

and they wanted religious nutters as far away from government as possible....

but thanks for your usual cut and paste.

Wrong...another lefty lie...read what Franklin said about God and sin...

 

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This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it

~John Adams


Lighthouses are more useful than churches

~B. Franklin

 

[Camp]

A material reward for listening to truth.....

Notice the difference from government school: detention for missing indoctrination.


BTW....have you seen what happens to the school lunches mandated by Mrs.Liar-in-Chief?

"Every First Lady has to have a do-good project. Michelle Obama selected school lunches as her program. The first step was passing the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act. The law will increase federal spending on school nutrition programs by $4.5 billion over the next ten years. However, there’s a big problem: the children don't like the school lunches.

Here are Mrs. Obama's words when she took on this project: "When our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, ... it's clear that we, as a nation, have a responsibility to meet as well. We can't just leave it up to the parents.”

Some students are getting pretty loud in their objections to limiting their condiments and removing desserts and whole milk from their menus. The law limits the maximum number of calories allowed in each lunch, setting maximum numbers of calories for students by age. For high schoolers, lunches may offer between 750-850 calories. K-5 kids can have 550-650 calories. Thanks to the increased emphasis on fruits and vegetables, main portion sizes have decreased. Many students claim they are still hungry after finishing lunch." Eagle Forum Blog: The Politics of School Lunches

Talk about "Liar in Chief"

And yet another moron who would love to point to some imagined "lie," but is unable to find any.

Seems to be the default of Liberals when faced with reality.

You guys have been playing that ....Look at what a Michelle Obama lunch looks like lie for six years

Gets more inept every time you try

This is what I googled...

"Images for michelle obama school lunch"

That one of the pics.....



Try it yourself.



BTW....I never lie, as you just found out.

Distortion and omission or related facts that change the context of statements are also lies.

 

[rightwinger]

This was also one of the pics:

Reminds me GOP school lunches:

There is no propaganda like GOP propaganda

 

[2aguy]

On Benjamin Franklin.....not a deist...

Benjamin Franklin Credits God for America’s Independence

Using the colonial term for the hand of God, “Providence,” Franklin here testifies to his belief that God’s hand was ever active in the birth of our nation:

“The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?”

Below are two more quotes from Franklin that express his understanding of God:

“My dear friend, do not imagine that I am vain enough to ascribe our success [Revolution] to any superiority…If it had not been for the justice of our cause, and the consequent interposition of Providence, in which we had faith, we must have been ruined. If I had ever before been an atheist, I should now have been convinced of the being and government of a Deity!”

—In a letter to William Strahan, August 19, 1784

“I must own I have so much faith in the general government of the world by Providence that I can hardly conceive a transaction of such momentous importance to the welfare of millions now existing, and to exist in the posterity of a great nation, should be suffered to pass without being in some degree influenced, guided, and governed by that omnipotent, omnipresent, and beneficent Ruler.”
—On the impact of Independence on generations of Americans during the Constitutional Convention

 

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We can all agree that PoliSpice doesn't think that Jefferson qualifies as a Founding Father of this great nation. Is that right PoliSpice?

In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814




If we did a good act merely from love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? ...Their virtue, then, must have had some other foundation than the love of God.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, June 13, 1814




Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July, 1816




Priests...dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Correa de Serra, April 11, 1820

 

[rdean]

This was also one of the pics:

Reminds me GOP school lunches:

There is no propaganda like GOP propaganda

Republicans think ketchup is a vegetable. True story.

Tomato paste, like ketchup, is a GOP vegetable

 

[thereisnospoon]

3. The change in America, from a spiritual to a materialist entity, is largely due to the efforts of the 32nd President. He promised all sorts of material rewards, if America would only give up the individualism, and freedoms that the Founders embodied in the Constitution.
He promised rewards such as

Oh, Mail Order Bride from Hell, I don't think you would be happy in 1787 America, where only white property owning males were considered people worthy of the vote.

But let's pick a few more things from "Mail Order College Thesis of the Day"....

....the very antithesis of 'a moral and religious people.'
The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

The Founders believed in Freedom, all right. Unless you were poor Sally Hemings getting her 15 year old Cherry popped by Thomas Jefferson because she had the bad luck to be his dead-wife's half sister AND his property.

Now to put htis in the proper perspective... Yes, the Founding Slave Rapists did believe there was a magic man in the sky who created the world. A lot of them were Deists and not Christians, but they still believed in a magic man in the sky.

And they still thought Witchcraft was a real thing.

Historical Witches and Witchtrials in North America

And they thought Bleeding was a valid medical treatment.

http://www.tehistory.org/hqda/pdf/v41/Volume41_N3_100.pdf

And they thought Slavery was perfectly okay because the bible said so.

Today, we know that there are no witches, that bleeding someone is a bad idea, and that people owning other people as property is wrong.

But we are supposed to go to these guys as be all and end alls on how to run a modern society because they are some kind of deified paragons of virtue?

I think not.

Founding slave rapists...Yeah.
Ok asshole since you think as do many of you flaming libs do that the USA is a illegitimate country, get the fuck out.
all you lefties ever do is complain. You take your constant bed wetting one step further. You are a hater.
You are a miserable no good fuck who has accomplished nothing in your life and you blame everyone else for your problems.