Ray From Cleveland
Diamond Member
- Aug 16, 2015
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Then perhaps it doesn’t qualify as something that needs to be regulated. Parameters as to what should be allowed and not allowed first need to be set up. What exactly qualifies as a “weapon of war”The problem there is that an AR 15 is not a powerful rifleIf you didn’t deny the obvious, that more powerful guns can inflict more damage, then it would be easier to take your argument more seriously. But when you throw smoke like you do it becomes a spin game.Listing mass shootings doesn’t prove anything. Listing car murders and knife murders and pistol murders doesn’t prove that the power of the gun doesn’t make a difference. Logic and common sense tells that the stronger the weapon and the more ammo the more damage you can inflict. That’s why strong weapons and large cap mags were developed in the first place. You’re trying to convince us that blue is red by showing us green. It isn’t workingAgain.....
Dayton ...10 killed, rifle with the magazines you want banned.
Russia... no rifle, no magazine, 5 shot, tube fed, pump action shotgun...20 killed 40 injured.
Navy Yard.... pump action shotgun 12 killed.
Santa Fe school...no rifle, no magazine...10 killed shotgun and .38 revolver
So...we are about at the end of rational discussion. I have shown you over and over that it isn't the weapon or the magazine..... so if you get what you want, banning anything over 10 bullets....and the AR-15 ban....mass shooters will kill with 10 round magazines in gun free zones and then you will be back for the 10 round magazines, pistols, revolvers and shotguns....
You have no rational argument....you refuse to see the truth, you don't like the thought of these magazines in an irrational way.....so you want them banned....then you will be back for the rest.
At least, if not more, 18 million AR-15 rifles with even more millions of the magazines you want banned.
How many were used for mass public shootings.....3.
You have an irrational position. You can't support it with facts, or reality.
There are many solid arguments to combat regulating guns you don’t need the BS denials and spin.
In fact it is one of the smallest caliber rifles on the market
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The problem with parameters is once in place, the Democrats want to expand them whenever possible. I'm sure I can find plenty of footage when the assault weapons ban was in of what Democrats suggested or wanted to do to stop mass killings during that period. I don't recall any Democrats saying "We are fine, we are happy with the results of the assault weapon ban, and therefore, no need for further regulation!"