Senate Panel Upholds Finding That Russia Backed Trump, Contradicting House

[Claudette]

I've supported the Mueller investigation from the beginning because I put truth before everything. I will say though that I find it funny how the left can turn a blind eye to illegal immigration while wanting to nail Trump to a fucking cross over having financial connections to Russia that might possibly be illegal in some instances. The law is a big deal when you can use it to attack somebody you dislike, but when it gets in the way of what you want the law is unimportant.

You mean like those endless Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi investigations?

The Benghazi thing was stupid in my opinion. The Republicans should have recognized they were wasting their time. Nothing was going to happen to Clinton, ever. Thankfully that corrupt bitch lost anyway.

Yup if anyone ever thinks Hitlery will EVER be held accountable they are pissing up a rope.

 

[BULLDOG]

Talking about Hillary or GPS, or FISA courts, or any of that other crap has nothing to do with whether the information in the dossier is true. Real facts require a little more than all your conspiracy theories do. Either man up and show me or admit it's just what you choose to believe with no real reason to back it up.

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LMAO! It has EVERYTHING to do with it. You really believe that Trump had Russian hookers piss on the same bed that Barrypuppet and his tranny wife slept in while he was in Russia? Prove that the dossier is true, the preponderance of the evidence is upon that of the accuser.

The proof is required of the one making the claim. You said it was completely disproved. You gonna wuss out again?

Steele's lack of credibility makes his contentions absolutely worthless....now, answer the question.....you believe that Trump hired hookers to piss on the same bed that Barrypuppet slept in......yes or no?

Steel's credibility is unimpeachable. After years of almost universal respect for his work by security agencies from several countries, Trump supporters started crying about his credibility only after the dossier. You are still the only ones who claim to have doubts about his credibility.
I don't doubt that Trump did almost anything with prostitutes. His history with sex workers is long and well known.
I'm not sure if that particular incident happened, because it has been neither proved nor disproved. As the dossier said, Steel wasn't accusing him of doing that. It was just a bit of information that one of his informants shared with him, and he included it in the report as such. If you actually read the dossier, you will see that he wasn't presenting it as verified fact.
Much of what was mentioned in the dossier has since been proven to be true, and not a single item from the dossier that has been further investigated has been proven to be false. You really should raise the standards you use to accept something as fact.

How about you get the spelling of Christopher Steele's name correct before you climb on your little soapbox and attempt to "school me" on the veracities of the dossier where Trump is portrayed as a Manchurian candidate going back six years ago, m'kay?


Here are the ABC's of me, Bulldog. I don't believe a fucking word that comes out of the mouths of the lamestream "Operation Mockingbird" media types. I don't believe a fucking thing that deep state swamp pieces of shit have to say either......9/11/01, the JFK murder, the financial situation and the central bank that owns it are lying sacks of pedo filth.I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was raining and I could hear the tell-tale sounds of the gentle patter of water on my window panes. I would still look outside. Spare me your little sermon about Steele's credibility as the Hildebeast, Obama, the Bush crime family, Holder, Lynch, Wolfowitz, Comey, Mueller have been given cover for a litany of crimes because they are protected by the shadow government that gives them their marching orders.

I do not pledge any allegiance to this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body and it's gold fringed flag....I spit on it and give it the middle finger salute every chance I get. My sincere hope is that Trump was put in by the white hats to fix this sorry state of affairs that has made every 14th amendment "citizen" a debt slave whose sweat equity moves their worthless fiat currency backed by nothing of an intrinsic value.....are we clear on this??? Let me know because I can cut back on the multi-syllable words and put in simpler terms like a "Dick And Jane" first grade primer....just let me know

Now, allow me to adress the situation as I see it.... we have that disgusting sack of shit Mueller that has been a "fixer" for the deep state and a utter piece of filth is in charge of finding dirt on Trump using the Steele dossier to go before a FISA court and spy on anyone involved with Trump's campaign...despicable but typical of the deep state...also fucking laughable....tragically hilarious. The fucking data dump of Wikileaks proved that the deep state was going to give her a pass on what she did within the state department and had her exoneration letter put together before the investigation ever began and before she was interviewed with her not being under oath or any notes taken....BUT WAIT! It was the ROOSKIES that hacked the server that turned over proof of the criminality, corruption and much more about the DNC thus it's to be forgotten and someone needs to fucking pay for shining the light on these cockroaches so an insurance plan was cooked up even before the election was held and the scapegoats were going to be the very Rooskies that made off with a hefty portion of U.S uranium while padding the pockets of deep staters like those mentioned above. So allow me to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and don't EVER call me out as if you are going to school me on any fucking thing. Maybe Trump is just an actor and this is all a charade to make us hate each other..at this point I don't discount anything but before you attempt to cast stones behind that leftard glass tower you protect with so much zeal? You might want to reflect on what you are REALLY defending.

Got it. You're still a nutbag that will fall for any conspiracy theory that comes along. I keep holding out hope for you, even when I know it's hopeless. Believe what you will. Reality will be here if you ever want to visit.

 

[BULLDOG]

Oh, looky here, looks like Russia isn't the only one interfering with elections:

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Foreign Governments Have Been Tampering With U.S. Elections for Decades

Analysis | The long history of the U.S. interfering with elections elsewhere

Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

I'm not saying this makes it ok, but what I am saying is that, meddling with elections is nothing new, governments have been doing it for decades. Until we see some evidence that trump is involved, isn't it possible that this is just another, in a long line of foreign government tampering with elections?

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

 

[BULLDOG]

Mueller is investigating the proven fact that Russia interfered in our elections in order to help Trump, and hurt Hillary. There is no question that happened. If Trump didn't cooperate with that interference, he has nothing to worry about. Trump and his campaign staff have been proven to lie about several things concerning the interference. It's reasonable to wonder why they lied so much.

Right, there is nothing to tie them together yet, so let's let the evidence come out and the chips fall where they may. In the minds of the left, however, he is guilty before ever being proven, and, if/when the investigation comes out, and they find no collusion, the left will say the investigation was tainted and they will still be convinced of his guilt. Point is, the left doesnt care about what facts come to light, they will always think he did it.

Not if the investigation is allowed to be completed without interference. Right wing interference, or more Trump stunts would certainly taint the results. I hope Trump is found totally innocent. It turns my stomach to think our president could be guilty of those things, and I would be very happy to find he didn't.

Right, but if the investigation comes back with anything less than a full charge of collusion on behalf of trump, the left will not accept the results. They will say the investigation had interference, they will spend the next 12 months scouring stories on the internet, and repeatedly examining every word of the report and all of the testimony looking for any slight miswording that will give them a chance to claim that the investigation was tainted and therefore not valid.

In short, they will never accept any kind of exoneration of trump.

The way the right has accepted the exoneration of Clinton? (Benghazi, emails, uranium one, etc)

He won't be exonerated. If Cohen flips, it's over for the Oompa Loompa Oligarch.

The difference here is, we know hillary had a private server which held classified information, we know she tried to cover it up, and we know her foundation received hundreds of millions from russian nuclear officials while she was in the state department.

Her foundation did receive lots of money, and external auditors accounted for every penny of it. It all went to credible and transparent charity efforts that helped millions of people throughout the world.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Right, there is nothing to tie them together yet, so let's let the evidence come out and the chips fall where they may. In the minds of the left, however, he is guilty before ever being proven, and, if/when the investigation comes out, and they find no collusion, the left will say the investigation was tainted and they will still be convinced of his guilt. Point is, the left doesnt care about what facts come to light, they will always think he did it.

Not if the investigation is allowed to be completed without interference. Right wing interference, or more Trump stunts would certainly taint the results. I hope Trump is found totally innocent. It turns my stomach to think our president could be guilty of those things, and I would be very happy to find he didn't.

Right, but if the investigation comes back with anything less than a full charge of collusion on behalf of trump, the left will not accept the results. They will say the investigation had interference, they will spend the next 12 months scouring stories on the internet, and repeatedly examining every word of the report and all of the testimony looking for any slight miswording that will give them a chance to claim that the investigation was tainted and therefore not valid.

In short, they will never accept any kind of exoneration of trump.

The way the right has accepted the exoneration of Clinton? (Benghazi, emails, uranium one, etc)

He won't be exonerated. If Cohen flips, it's over for the Oompa Loompa Oligarch.

The difference here is, we know hillary had a private server which held classified information, we know she tried to cover it up, and we know her foundation received hundreds of millions from russian nuclear officials while she was in the state department.

Ah, so you're one of those that does not accept the exoneration of Clinton. ..and refuse to accept the findings of all the investigations that got bupkiss on Clinton.

That being the case, you really should STFU about whether "leftists" will accept the exoneration of Trump.

Just because there were no indictments doesnt mean there was no wrong doing. Like I said, the Clintons are untouchable. There was evidence that she mishandled classified information, there was evidence that she used bleachbit to wipe her server and there was evidence that her foundation was the recipient of millions of dollars from russian nuclear officials, yet, everyone has turned a blind eye.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Oh, looky here, looks like Russia isn't the only one interfering with elections:

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Foreign Governments Have Been Tampering With U.S. Elections for Decades

Analysis | The long history of the U.S. interfering with elections elsewhere

Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

I'm not saying this makes it ok, but what I am saying is that, meddling with elections is nothing new, governments have been doing it for decades. Until we see some evidence that trump is involved, isn't it possible that this is just another, in a long line of foreign government tampering with elections?

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

I just said we shouldn't ignore it, I clearly said that in my previous post. We also shouldn't uproot an entire administration until we have the smoking guns which right now, doesnt exist.

 

[BULLDOG]

Oh, looky here, looks like Russia isn't the only one interfering with elections:

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Foreign Governments Have Been Tampering With U.S. Elections for Decades

Analysis | The long history of the U.S. interfering with elections elsewhere

Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

I'm not saying this makes it ok, but what I am saying is that, meddling with elections is nothing new, governments have been doing it for decades. Until we see some evidence that trump is involved, isn't it possible that this is just another, in a long line of foreign government tampering with elections?

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

I just said we shouldn't ignore it, I clearly said that in my previous post. We also shouldn't uproot an entire administration until we have the smoking guns which right now, doesnt exist.

You have no Idea if smoking guns exist. You only know that none have been exposed yet. Trump is disliked and receiving blowback for his behavior since he has been president. He hasn't received any repercussions, at all for any crimes Mueller might uncover. That won't happen until the report is released. It's kinda silly for you to whine about something that hasn't happened yet, don't you think?

 

[beagle9]

Uranium one has been investigated by every RWNJ with the capability for years. Why hasn't anybody found anything? If Trump can afford hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay off porn stars, he should be able to find something.

They have found information on it, at least, they have found more information on the uranium one scandal than they have of trump colluding with russians, but the Clinton's are untouchable, so, no matter what they find,.it will never come to light, or at least, nothing will ever be done about it.

I mean, look at it like this, one single allegation of sexual misconduct against someone in the Republican party will get them thrown off TV, or have them removed from a Senate seat, yet uranium one, pizza gate, and email server allegations have had almost no effect on the Clinton's. Even bill, who had sexual contact with an lewinski came out of that pretty unscathed.

You see, the left always seem to be able to commit whatever crimes and atrocious acts, and people seem to turn a blind eye, but a Republican commits even the smallest of misdeeds, and its national news for weeks to come.

Those have no effect because they are trumped up bullshit. Crazy accusations are all they ever were

And the same goes with trump colluding with Russian, it's all speculation at this point. There is no evidence to support that trump had colluded with Russian to win the election. That, however, doesnt matter, because in the eyes of the left, he is guilty, even the allegation without evidence was enough to convict him.

That is what I'm talking about. They have found more evidence against hillary than they have about trump, but that doesnt matter, hillary is automatically innocent or "they just made that up", but trump is automatically guilty when even an allegation is the only thing presented.

This is collusion...just an FYI.

RUSSIANS: We have dirt on Hillary Clinton
TRUMP JR: I love it, let's meet.

It's not at all concerning to you that the narrative from the Trump camp keeps changing?

TRUMP ADMIN: My campaign has had no contacts with Russians

(When dozens of contacts are later revealed)

TRUMP ADMIN: None of those contacts were about the campaign

(When it turned out numerous contacts were about the campaign)

TRUMP CULT: Collusion is not a crime!!!

Where is the script that Russia says they have dirt on hillary and trump jr., says he wants to meet to discuss it? Is it possible that trump jr. meeting with Russia is just a coincidence, and not related to the campaign? Just as bill clinton meeting lynch on an airplane is also a coincidence?

The problem I have is not that you may be right, but that you have convicted trump before evidence has been found. The left was convinced trump was guilty from day one. The media broke the story that there may have been collusion, and the left was on board, and on the attack from day one, without any evidence or information having been released.

I've always said, if he is guilty and he did rig the election, then he should go, but let's find some evidence first, before we start skewering the guy.

If Obama got a spec of dirt on the Trump campaign illegally, and for political reasons he obtained that spec of dirt, and then next he wispered it to his sheeple through various channels in order to keep the illegality of his political snooping from blowing back on him and his mafia type crew, then it might explain the slow very precise walking to the climax of the entire ordeal over time. Otherwise if can't get Trump through corrupt means or if can't out the campaign without being convicted themselves of being illegal spies or worse doing these things for political reasons upon an opponents campaign (in order to try and reshape the future against the nations will), then it's over for them. The U.S.A wins, Obama and crew loses in their hopes of fundementally changing this country.

 

[BULLDOG]

They have found information on it, at least, they have found more information on the uranium one scandal than they have of trump colluding with russians, but the Clinton's are untouchable, so, no matter what they find,.it will never come to light, or at least, nothing will ever be done about it.

I mean, look at it like this, one single allegation of sexual misconduct against someone in the Republican party will get them thrown off TV, or have them removed from a Senate seat, yet uranium one, pizza gate, and email server allegations have had almost no effect on the Clinton's. Even bill, who had sexual contact with an lewinski came out of that pretty unscathed.

You see, the left always seem to be able to commit whatever crimes and atrocious acts, and people seem to turn a blind eye, but a Republican commits even the smallest of misdeeds, and its national news for weeks to come.

Those have no effect because they are trumped up bullshit. Crazy accusations are all they ever were

And the same goes with trump colluding with Russian, it's all speculation at this point. There is no evidence to support that trump had colluded with Russian to win the election. That, however, doesnt matter, because in the eyes of the left, he is guilty, even the allegation without evidence was enough to convict him.

That is what I'm talking about. They have found more evidence against hillary than they have about trump, but that doesnt matter, hillary is automatically innocent or "they just made that up", but trump is automatically guilty when even an allegation is the only thing presented.

This is collusion...just an FYI.

RUSSIANS: We have dirt on Hillary Clinton
TRUMP JR: I love it, let's meet.

It's not at all concerning to you that the narrative from the Trump camp keeps changing?

TRUMP ADMIN: My campaign has had no contacts with Russians

(When dozens of contacts are later revealed)

TRUMP ADMIN: None of those contacts were about the campaign

(When it turned out numerous contacts were about the campaign)

TRUMP CULT: Collusion is not a crime!!!

Where is the script that Russia says they have dirt on hillary and trump jr., says he wants to meet to discuss it? Is it possible that trump jr. meeting with Russia is just a coincidence, and not related to the campaign? Just as bill clinton meeting lynch on an airplane is also a coincidence?

The problem I have is not that you may be right, but that you have convicted trump before evidence has been found. The left was convinced trump was guilty from day one. The media broke the story that there may have been collusion, and the left was on board, and on the attack from day one, without any evidence or information having been released.

I've always said, if he is guilty and he did rig the election, then he should go, but let's find some evidence first, before we start skewering the guy.

If Obama got a spec of dirt on the Trump campaign illegally, and for political reasons he obtained that spec of dirt, and then next he wispered it to his sheeple through various channels in order to keep the illegality of his political snooping from blowing back on him and his mafia type crew, then it might explain the slow very precise walking to the climax of the entire ordeal over time. Otherwise if can't get Trump through corrupt means or if can't out the campaign without being convicted themselves of being illegal spies or worse doing these things for political reasons upon an opponents campaign (in order to try and reshape the future against the nations will), then it's over for them. The U.S.A wins, Obama and crew loses in their hopes of fundementally changing this country.

It's amazing how complex your conspiracy theories have become.

 

[beagle9]

Those have no effect because they are trumped up bullshit. Crazy accusations are all they ever were

And the same goes with trump colluding with Russian, it's all speculation at this point. There is no evidence to support that trump had colluded with Russian to win the election. That, however, doesnt matter, because in the eyes of the left, he is guilty, even the allegation without evidence was enough to convict him.

That is what I'm talking about. They have found more evidence against hillary than they have about trump, but that doesnt matter, hillary is automatically innocent or "they just made that up", but trump is automatically guilty when even an allegation is the only thing presented.

This is collusion...just an FYI.

RUSSIANS: We have dirt on Hillary Clinton
TRUMP JR: I love it, let's meet.

It's not at all concerning to you that the narrative from the Trump camp keeps changing?

TRUMP ADMIN: My campaign has had no contacts with Russians

(When dozens of contacts are later revealed)

TRUMP ADMIN: None of those contacts were about the campaign

(When it turned out numerous contacts were about the campaign)

TRUMP CULT: Collusion is not a crime!!!

Where is the script that Russia says they have dirt on hillary and trump jr., says he wants to meet to discuss it? Is it possible that trump jr. meeting with Russia is just a coincidence, and not related to the campaign? Just as bill clinton meeting lynch on an airplane is also a coincidence?

The problem I have is not that you may be right, but that you have convicted trump before evidence has been found. The left was convinced trump was guilty from day one. The media broke the story that there may have been collusion, and the left was on board, and on the attack from day one, without any evidence or information having been released.

I've always said, if he is guilty and he did rig the election, then he should go, but let's find some evidence first, before we start skewering the guy.

If Obama got a spec of dirt on the Trump campaign illegally, and for political reasons he obtained that spec of dirt, and then next he wispered it to his sheeple through various channels in order to keep the illegality of his political snooping from blowing back on him and his mafia type crew, then it might explain the slow very precise walking to the climax of the entire ordeal over time. Otherwise if can't get Trump through corrupt means or if can't out the campaign without being convicted themselves of being illegal spies or worse doing these things for political reasons upon an opponents campaign (in order to try and reshape the future against the nations will), then it's over for them. The U.S.A wins, Obama and crew loses in their hopes of fundementally changing this country.

It's amazing how complex your conspiracy theories have become.

Conspiracy ?? Maybe, maybe not.... We shall see won't we.

 

[BULLDOG]

And the same goes with trump colluding with Russian, it's all speculation at this point. There is no evidence to support that trump had colluded with Russian to win the election. That, however, doesnt matter, because in the eyes of the left, he is guilty, even the allegation without evidence was enough to convict him.

That is what I'm talking about. They have found more evidence against hillary than they have about trump, but that doesnt matter, hillary is automatically innocent or "they just made that up", but trump is automatically guilty when even an allegation is the only thing presented.

This is collusion...just an FYI.

RUSSIANS: We have dirt on Hillary Clinton
TRUMP JR: I love it, let's meet.

It's not at all concerning to you that the narrative from the Trump camp keeps changing?

TRUMP ADMIN: My campaign has had no contacts with Russians

(When dozens of contacts are later revealed)

TRUMP ADMIN: None of those contacts were about the campaign

(When it turned out numerous contacts were about the campaign)

TRUMP CULT: Collusion is not a crime!!!

Where is the script that Russia says they have dirt on hillary and trump jr., says he wants to meet to discuss it? Is it possible that trump jr. meeting with Russia is just a coincidence, and not related to the campaign? Just as bill clinton meeting lynch on an airplane is also a coincidence?

The problem I have is not that you may be right, but that you have convicted trump before evidence has been found. The left was convinced trump was guilty from day one. The media broke the story that there may have been collusion, and the left was on board, and on the attack from day one, without any evidence or information having been released.

I've always said, if he is guilty and he did rig the election, then he should go, but let's find some evidence first, before we start skewering the guy.

If Obama got a spec of dirt on the Trump campaign illegally, and for political reasons he obtained that spec of dirt, and then next he wispered it to his sheeple through various channels in order to keep the illegality of his political snooping from blowing back on him and his mafia type crew, then it might explain the slow very precise walking to the climax of the entire ordeal over time. Otherwise if can't get Trump through corrupt means or if can't out the campaign without being convicted themselves of being illegal spies or worse doing these things for political reasons upon an opponents campaign (in order to try and reshape the future against the nations will), then it's over for them. The U.S.A wins, Obama and crew loses in their hopes of fundementally changing this country.

It's amazing how complex your conspiracy theories have become.

Conspiracy ?? Maybe, maybe not.... We shall see won't we.

Just as soon as we get past that chemtrail thing.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Oh, looky here, looks like Russia isn't the only one interfering with elections:

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Foreign Governments Have Been Tampering With U.S. Elections for Decades

Analysis | The long history of the U.S. interfering with elections elsewhere

Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

I'm not saying this makes it ok, but what I am saying is that, meddling with elections is nothing new, governments have been doing it for decades. Until we see some evidence that trump is involved, isn't it possible that this is just another, in a long line of foreign government tampering with elections?

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

I just said we shouldn't ignore it, I clearly said that in my previous post. We also shouldn't uproot an entire administration until we have the smoking guns which right now, doesnt exist.

You have no Idea if smoking guns exist. You only know that none have been exposed yet. Trump is disliked and receiving blowback for his behavior since he has been president. He hasn't received any repercussions, at all for any crimes Mueller might uncover. That won't happen until the report is released. It's kinda silly for you to whine about something that hasn't happened yet, don't you think?

About as silly as for people to whole heartedly say trump is guilty, without a shred of evidence?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Oh, looky here, looks like Russia isn't the only one interfering with elections:

Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

Foreign Governments Have Been Tampering With U.S. Elections for Decades

Analysis | The long history of the U.S. interfering with elections elsewhere

Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

I'm not saying this makes it ok, but what I am saying is that, meddling with elections is nothing new, governments have been doing it for decades. Until we see some evidence that trump is involved, isn't it possible that this is just another, in a long line of foreign government tampering with elections?

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

I just said we shouldn't ignore it, I clearly said that in my previous post. We also shouldn't uproot an entire administration until we have the smoking guns which right now, doesnt exist.

You have no Idea if smoking guns exist. You only know that none have been exposed yet. Trump is disliked and receiving blowback for his behavior since he has been president. He hasn't received any repercussions, at all for any crimes Mueller might uncover. That won't happen until the report is released. It's kinda silly for you to whine about something that hasn't happened yet, don't you think?

And no, its not silly, because I'm well aware of the agenda of the left. They will start a narrative, and they will run it into the ground, without any proof, hoping the idea sticks and changes people's opinions.

Just like the old saying, repeat something long enough, people will start to believe it"

 

[Dale Smith]

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LMAO! It has EVERYTHING to do with it. You really believe that Trump had Russian hookers piss on the same bed that Barrypuppet and his tranny wife slept in while he was in Russia? Prove that the dossier is true, the preponderance of the evidence is upon that of the accuser.

The proof is required of the one making the claim. You said it was completely disproved. You gonna wuss out again?

Steele's lack of credibility makes his contentions absolutely worthless....now, answer the question.....you believe that Trump hired hookers to piss on the same bed that Barrypuppet slept in......yes or no?

Steel's credibility is unimpeachable. After years of almost universal respect for his work by security agencies from several countries, Trump supporters started crying about his credibility only after the dossier. You are still the only ones who claim to have doubts about his credibility.
I don't doubt that Trump did almost anything with prostitutes. His history with sex workers is long and well known.
I'm not sure if that particular incident happened, because it has been neither proved nor disproved. As the dossier said, Steel wasn't accusing him of doing that. It was just a bit of information that one of his informants shared with him, and he included it in the report as such. If you actually read the dossier, you will see that he wasn't presenting it as verified fact.
Much of what was mentioned in the dossier has since been proven to be true, and not a single item from the dossier that has been further investigated has been proven to be false. You really should raise the standards you use to accept something as fact.

How about you get the spelling of Christopher Steele's name correct before you climb on your little soapbox and attempt to "school me" on the veracities of the dossier where Trump is portrayed as a Manchurian candidate going back six years ago, m'kay?


Here are the ABC's of me, Bulldog. I don't believe a fucking word that comes out of the mouths of the lamestream "Operation Mockingbird" media types. I don't believe a fucking thing that deep state swamp pieces of shit have to say either......9/11/01, the JFK murder, the financial situation and the central bank that owns it are lying sacks of pedo filth.I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was raining and I could hear the tell-tale sounds of the gentle patter of water on my window panes. I would still look outside. Spare me your little sermon about Steele's credibility as the Hildebeast, Obama, the Bush crime family, Holder, Lynch, Wolfowitz, Comey, Mueller have been given cover for a litany of crimes because they are protected by the shadow government that gives them their marching orders.

I do not pledge any allegiance to this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body and it's gold fringed flag....I spit on it and give it the middle finger salute every chance I get. My sincere hope is that Trump was put in by the white hats to fix this sorry state of affairs that has made every 14th amendment "citizen" a debt slave whose sweat equity moves their worthless fiat currency backed by nothing of an intrinsic value.....are we clear on this??? Let me know because I can cut back on the multi-syllable words and put in simpler terms like a "Dick And Jane" first grade primer....just let me know

Now, allow me to adress the situation as I see it.... we have that disgusting sack of shit Mueller that has been a "fixer" for the deep state and a utter piece of filth is in charge of finding dirt on Trump using the Steele dossier to go before a FISA court and spy on anyone involved with Trump's campaign...despicable but typical of the deep state...also fucking laughable....tragically hilarious. The fucking data dump of Wikileaks proved that the deep state was going to give her a pass on what she did within the state department and had her exoneration letter put together before the investigation ever began and before she was interviewed with her not being under oath or any notes taken....BUT WAIT! It was the ROOSKIES that hacked the server that turned over proof of the criminality, corruption and much more about the DNC thus it's to be forgotten and someone needs to fucking pay for shining the light on these cockroaches so an insurance plan was cooked up even before the election was held and the scapegoats were going to be the very Rooskies that made off with a hefty portion of U.S uranium while padding the pockets of deep staters like those mentioned above. So allow me to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and don't EVER call me out as if you are going to school me on any fucking thing. Maybe Trump is just an actor and this is all a charade to make us hate each other..at this point I don't discount anything but before you attempt to cast stones behind that leftard glass tower you protect with so much zeal? You might want to reflect on what you are REALLY defending.

Got it. You're still a nutbag that will fall for any conspiracy theory that comes along. I keep holding out hope for you, even when I know it's hopeless. Believe what you will. Reality will be here if you ever want to visit.

Believing that Trump and the Rooskies started plotting in 2011 to win the 2016 election KNOWING that Trump ( no beltway insider where everyone thought that his tossing his hat in the ring was a joke) would defeat a field of 16 other candidates?

Now that is a far fetched "conspiracy theory", Bulldawg. It's all bullshit that those of your ilk need to hang onto when there is nothing left. I noticed how you absolutely slithered around all the salient points I made and simply resorted to lame insults. I thought better of ya.

 

[BULLDOG]

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

I just said we shouldn't ignore it, I clearly said that in my previous post. We also shouldn't uproot an entire administration until we have the smoking guns which right now, doesnt exist.

You have no Idea if smoking guns exist. You only know that none have been exposed yet. Trump is disliked and receiving blowback for his behavior since he has been president. He hasn't received any repercussions, at all for any crimes Mueller might uncover. That won't happen until the report is released. It's kinda silly for you to whine about something that hasn't happened yet, don't you think?

About as silly as for people to whole heartedly say trump is guilty, without a shred of evidence?

So why do you think Trump and his staff lied so often about meeting with Russian agents, particularly since it has been proven that Russia interfered in our election with the specific goal of helping Trump and hurting Hillary.

 

[BULLDOG]

So you want to ignore Russia's interference in our elections. How patriotic of you. Is that what Trump means when he says America first?

I think you missed the point. Apparently, election tampering has been going on for decades. There seems to be a long pattern of it, by both other countries and ourselves. This is something that happens, possibly every election cycle, but now that it happens during a trump election, the left wants to make a big fuss over it.

Why is it, that since this appears to be an ongoing issue, this is the first time I've heard anyone really making a fuss over it?

And to your question, no, we shouldn't ignore russian election tampering, but we also shouldn't try to pin what seems to happen quite commonly, on a political opposition without any proper evidence. if said evidence is found and is credible, then I will be on the impeach trump train with you guys.

It has never happened to the extent and as arrogantly as it did this time. All indications are that it will continue, and probably get worse. If you are happy with Russia effecting who wins our presidency, I have to question your patriotism and concern for our country.

I just said we shouldn't ignore it, I clearly said that in my previous post. We also shouldn't uproot an entire administration until we have the smoking guns which right now, doesnt exist.

You have no Idea if smoking guns exist. You only know that none have been exposed yet. Trump is disliked and receiving blowback for his behavior since he has been president. He hasn't received any repercussions, at all for any crimes Mueller might uncover. That won't happen until the report is released. It's kinda silly for you to whine about something that hasn't happened yet, don't you think?

And no, its not silly, because I'm well aware of the agenda of the left. They will start a narrative, and they will run it into the ground, without any proof, hoping the idea sticks and changes people's opinions.

Just like the old saying, repeat something long enough, people will start to believe it"

The right fell for it so many times.

 

[BULLDOG]

The proof is required of the one making the claim. You said it was completely disproved. You gonna wuss out again?

Steele's lack of credibility makes his contentions absolutely worthless....now, answer the question.....you believe that Trump hired hookers to piss on the same bed that Barrypuppet slept in......yes or no?

Steel's credibility is unimpeachable. After years of almost universal respect for his work by security agencies from several countries, Trump supporters started crying about his credibility only after the dossier. You are still the only ones who claim to have doubts about his credibility.
I don't doubt that Trump did almost anything with prostitutes. His history with sex workers is long and well known.
I'm not sure if that particular incident happened, because it has been neither proved nor disproved. As the dossier said, Steel wasn't accusing him of doing that. It was just a bit of information that one of his informants shared with him, and he included it in the report as such. If you actually read the dossier, you will see that he wasn't presenting it as verified fact.
Much of what was mentioned in the dossier has since been proven to be true, and not a single item from the dossier that has been further investigated has been proven to be false. You really should raise the standards you use to accept something as fact.

How about you get the spelling of Christopher Steele's name correct before you climb on your little soapbox and attempt to "school me" on the veracities of the dossier where Trump is portrayed as a Manchurian candidate going back six years ago, m'kay?


Here are the ABC's of me, Bulldog. I don't believe a fucking word that comes out of the mouths of the lamestream "Operation Mockingbird" media types. I don't believe a fucking thing that deep state swamp pieces of shit have to say either......9/11/01, the JFK murder, the financial situation and the central bank that owns it are lying sacks of pedo filth.I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was raining and I could hear the tell-tale sounds of the gentle patter of water on my window panes. I would still look outside. Spare me your little sermon about Steele's credibility as the Hildebeast, Obama, the Bush crime family, Holder, Lynch, Wolfowitz, Comey, Mueller have been given cover for a litany of crimes because they are protected by the shadow government that gives them their marching orders.

I do not pledge any allegiance to this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body and it's gold fringed flag....I spit on it and give it the middle finger salute every chance I get. My sincere hope is that Trump was put in by the white hats to fix this sorry state of affairs that has made every 14th amendment "citizen" a debt slave whose sweat equity moves their worthless fiat currency backed by nothing of an intrinsic value.....are we clear on this??? Let me know because I can cut back on the multi-syllable words and put in simpler terms like a "Dick And Jane" first grade primer....just let me know

Now, allow me to adress the situation as I see it.... we have that disgusting sack of shit Mueller that has been a "fixer" for the deep state and a utter piece of filth is in charge of finding dirt on Trump using the Steele dossier to go before a FISA court and spy on anyone involved with Trump's campaign...despicable but typical of the deep state...also fucking laughable....tragically hilarious. The fucking data dump of Wikileaks proved that the deep state was going to give her a pass on what she did within the state department and had her exoneration letter put together before the investigation ever began and before she was interviewed with her not being under oath or any notes taken....BUT WAIT! It was the ROOSKIES that hacked the server that turned over proof of the criminality, corruption and much more about the DNC thus it's to be forgotten and someone needs to fucking pay for shining the light on these cockroaches so an insurance plan was cooked up even before the election was held and the scapegoats were going to be the very Rooskies that made off with a hefty portion of U.S uranium while padding the pockets of deep staters like those mentioned above. So allow me to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and don't EVER call me out as if you are going to school me on any fucking thing. Maybe Trump is just an actor and this is all a charade to make us hate each other..at this point I don't discount anything but before you attempt to cast stones behind that leftard glass tower you protect with so much zeal? You might want to reflect on what you are REALLY defending.

Got it. You're still a nutbag that will fall for any conspiracy theory that comes along. I keep holding out hope for you, even when I know it's hopeless. Believe what you will. Reality will be here if you ever want to visit.

Believing that Trump and the Rooskies started plotting in 2011 to win the 2016 election KNOWING that Trump ( no beltway insider where everyone thought that his tossing his hat in the ring was a joke) would defeat a field of 16 other candidates?

Now that is a far fetched "conspiracy theory", Bulldawg. It's all bullshit that those of your ilk need to hang onto when there is nothing left. I noticed how you absolutely slithered around all the salient points I made and simply resorted to lame insults. I thought better of ya.

Who said it started in 2011? You're making another one of those jumps from fact to imagination that you are so famous for.

 

[Dale Smith]

Steele's lack of credibility makes his contentions absolutely worthless....now, answer the question.....you believe that Trump hired hookers to piss on the same bed that Barrypuppet slept in......yes or no?

Steel's credibility is unimpeachable. After years of almost universal respect for his work by security agencies from several countries, Trump supporters started crying about his credibility only after the dossier. You are still the only ones who claim to have doubts about his credibility.
I don't doubt that Trump did almost anything with prostitutes. His history with sex workers is long and well known.
I'm not sure if that particular incident happened, because it has been neither proved nor disproved. As the dossier said, Steel wasn't accusing him of doing that. It was just a bit of information that one of his informants shared with him, and he included it in the report as such. If you actually read the dossier, you will see that he wasn't presenting it as verified fact.
Much of what was mentioned in the dossier has since been proven to be true, and not a single item from the dossier that has been further investigated has been proven to be false. You really should raise the standards you use to accept something as fact.

How about you get the spelling of Christopher Steele's name correct before you climb on your little soapbox and attempt to "school me" on the veracities of the dossier where Trump is portrayed as a Manchurian candidate going back six years ago, m'kay?


Here are the ABC's of me, Bulldog. I don't believe a fucking word that comes out of the mouths of the lamestream "Operation Mockingbird" media types. I don't believe a fucking thing that deep state swamp pieces of shit have to say either......9/11/01, the JFK murder, the financial situation and the central bank that owns it are lying sacks of pedo filth.I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was raining and I could hear the tell-tale sounds of the gentle patter of water on my window panes. I would still look outside. Spare me your little sermon about Steele's credibility as the Hildebeast, Obama, the Bush crime family, Holder, Lynch, Wolfowitz, Comey, Mueller have been given cover for a litany of crimes because they are protected by the shadow government that gives them their marching orders.

I do not pledge any allegiance to this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body and it's gold fringed flag....I spit on it and give it the middle finger salute every chance I get. My sincere hope is that Trump was put in by the white hats to fix this sorry state of affairs that has made every 14th amendment "citizen" a debt slave whose sweat equity moves their worthless fiat currency backed by nothing of an intrinsic value.....are we clear on this??? Let me know because I can cut back on the multi-syllable words and put in simpler terms like a "Dick And Jane" first grade primer....just let me know

Now, allow me to adress the situation as I see it.... we have that disgusting sack of shit Mueller that has been a "fixer" for the deep state and a utter piece of filth is in charge of finding dirt on Trump using the Steele dossier to go before a FISA court and spy on anyone involved with Trump's campaign...despicable but typical of the deep state...also fucking laughable....tragically hilarious. The fucking data dump of Wikileaks proved that the deep state was going to give her a pass on what she did within the state department and had her exoneration letter put together before the investigation ever began and before she was interviewed with her not being under oath or any notes taken....BUT WAIT! It was the ROOSKIES that hacked the server that turned over proof of the criminality, corruption and much more about the DNC thus it's to be forgotten and someone needs to fucking pay for shining the light on these cockroaches so an insurance plan was cooked up even before the election was held and the scapegoats were going to be the very Rooskies that made off with a hefty portion of U.S uranium while padding the pockets of deep staters like those mentioned above. So allow me to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and don't EVER call me out as if you are going to school me on any fucking thing. Maybe Trump is just an actor and this is all a charade to make us hate each other..at this point I don't discount anything but before you attempt to cast stones behind that leftard glass tower you protect with so much zeal? You might want to reflect on what you are REALLY defending.

Got it. You're still a nutbag that will fall for any conspiracy theory that comes along. I keep holding out hope for you, even when I know it's hopeless. Believe what you will. Reality will be here if you ever want to visit.

Believing that Trump and the Rooskies started plotting in 2011 to win the 2016 election KNOWING that Trump ( no beltway insider where everyone thought that his tossing his hat in the ring was a joke) would defeat a field of 16 other candidates?

Now that is a far fetched "conspiracy theory", Bulldawg. It's all bullshit that those of your ilk need to hang onto when there is nothing left. I noticed how you absolutely slithered around all the salient points I made and simply resorted to lame insults. I thought better of ya.

Who said it started in 2011? You're making another one of those jumps from fact to imagination that you are so famous for.

I am shocked, stunned even.....I am speechless (which rarely happens)......OK, better now...

You mean haven't read the backdrop story of this tale of political intrigue and subterfuge that began in 2011???

Pssst, I am going to give you a hint via a song......seek and ye shall find....

 

[BULLDOG]

Steel's credibility is unimpeachable. After years of almost universal respect for his work by security agencies from several countries, Trump supporters started crying about his credibility only after the dossier. You are still the only ones who claim to have doubts about his credibility.
I don't doubt that Trump did almost anything with prostitutes. His history with sex workers is long and well known.
I'm not sure if that particular incident happened, because it has been neither proved nor disproved. As the dossier said, Steel wasn't accusing him of doing that. It was just a bit of information that one of his informants shared with him, and he included it in the report as such. If you actually read the dossier, you will see that he wasn't presenting it as verified fact.
Much of what was mentioned in the dossier has since been proven to be true, and not a single item from the dossier that has been further investigated has been proven to be false. You really should raise the standards you use to accept something as fact.

How about you get the spelling of Christopher Steele's name correct before you climb on your little soapbox and attempt to "school me" on the veracities of the dossier where Trump is portrayed as a Manchurian candidate going back six years ago, m'kay?


Here are the ABC's of me, Bulldog. I don't believe a fucking word that comes out of the mouths of the lamestream "Operation Mockingbird" media types. I don't believe a fucking thing that deep state swamp pieces of shit have to say either......9/11/01, the JFK murder, the financial situation and the central bank that owns it are lying sacks of pedo filth.I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was raining and I could hear the tell-tale sounds of the gentle patter of water on my window panes. I would still look outside. Spare me your little sermon about Steele's credibility as the Hildebeast, Obama, the Bush crime family, Holder, Lynch, Wolfowitz, Comey, Mueller have been given cover for a litany of crimes because they are protected by the shadow government that gives them their marching orders.

I do not pledge any allegiance to this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body and it's gold fringed flag....I spit on it and give it the middle finger salute every chance I get. My sincere hope is that Trump was put in by the white hats to fix this sorry state of affairs that has made every 14th amendment "citizen" a debt slave whose sweat equity moves their worthless fiat currency backed by nothing of an intrinsic value.....are we clear on this??? Let me know because I can cut back on the multi-syllable words and put in simpler terms like a "Dick And Jane" first grade primer....just let me know

Now, allow me to adress the situation as I see it.... we have that disgusting sack of shit Mueller that has been a "fixer" for the deep state and a utter piece of filth is in charge of finding dirt on Trump using the Steele dossier to go before a FISA court and spy on anyone involved with Trump's campaign...despicable but typical of the deep state...also fucking laughable....tragically hilarious. The fucking data dump of Wikileaks proved that the deep state was going to give her a pass on what she did within the state department and had her exoneration letter put together before the investigation ever began and before she was interviewed with her not being under oath or any notes taken....BUT WAIT! It was the ROOSKIES that hacked the server that turned over proof of the criminality, corruption and much more about the DNC thus it's to be forgotten and someone needs to fucking pay for shining the light on these cockroaches so an insurance plan was cooked up even before the election was held and the scapegoats were going to be the very Rooskies that made off with a hefty portion of U.S uranium while padding the pockets of deep staters like those mentioned above. So allow me to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and don't EVER call me out as if you are going to school me on any fucking thing. Maybe Trump is just an actor and this is all a charade to make us hate each other..at this point I don't discount anything but before you attempt to cast stones behind that leftard glass tower you protect with so much zeal? You might want to reflect on what you are REALLY defending.

Got it. You're still a nutbag that will fall for any conspiracy theory that comes along. I keep holding out hope for you, even when I know it's hopeless. Believe what you will. Reality will be here if you ever want to visit.

Believing that Trump and the Rooskies started plotting in 2011 to win the 2016 election KNOWING that Trump ( no beltway insider where everyone thought that his tossing his hat in the ring was a joke) would defeat a field of 16 other candidates?

Now that is a far fetched "conspiracy theory", Bulldawg. It's all bullshit that those of your ilk need to hang onto when there is nothing left. I noticed how you absolutely slithered around all the salient points I made and simply resorted to lame insults. I thought better of ya.

Who said it started in 2011? You're making another one of those jumps from fact to imagination that you are so famous for.

I am shocked, stunned even.....I am speechless (which rarely happens)......OK, better now...

You mean haven't read the backdrop story of this tale of political intrigue and subterfuge that began in 2011???

Pssst, I am going to give you a hint via a song......seek and ye shall find....

Nice old song, but it doesn't answer the question. Who says Russia was focused on helping Trump and hurting Hillary in 2011?

 

[Dale Smith]

How about you get the spelling of Christopher Steele's name correct before you climb on your little soapbox and attempt to "school me" on the veracities of the dossier where Trump is portrayed as a Manchurian candidate going back six years ago, m'kay?


Here are the ABC's of me, Bulldog. I don't believe a fucking word that comes out of the mouths of the lamestream "Operation Mockingbird" media types. I don't believe a fucking thing that deep state swamp pieces of shit have to say either......9/11/01, the JFK murder, the financial situation and the central bank that owns it are lying sacks of pedo filth.I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was raining and I could hear the tell-tale sounds of the gentle patter of water on my window panes. I would still look outside. Spare me your little sermon about Steele's credibility as the Hildebeast, Obama, the Bush crime family, Holder, Lynch, Wolfowitz, Comey, Mueller have been given cover for a litany of crimes because they are protected by the shadow government that gives them their marching orders.

I do not pledge any allegiance to this corporate entity that lamely disguises itself as a legitimate governmental body and it's gold fringed flag....I spit on it and give it the middle finger salute every chance I get. My sincere hope is that Trump was put in by the white hats to fix this sorry state of affairs that has made every 14th amendment "citizen" a debt slave whose sweat equity moves their worthless fiat currency backed by nothing of an intrinsic value.....are we clear on this??? Let me know because I can cut back on the multi-syllable words and put in simpler terms like a "Dick And Jane" first grade primer....just let me know

Now, allow me to adress the situation as I see it.... we have that disgusting sack of shit Mueller that has been a "fixer" for the deep state and a utter piece of filth is in charge of finding dirt on Trump using the Steele dossier to go before a FISA court and spy on anyone involved with Trump's campaign...despicable but typical of the deep state...also fucking laughable....tragically hilarious. The fucking data dump of Wikileaks proved that the deep state was going to give her a pass on what she did within the state department and had her exoneration letter put together before the investigation ever began and before she was interviewed with her not being under oath or any notes taken....BUT WAIT! It was the ROOSKIES that hacked the server that turned over proof of the criminality, corruption and much more about the DNC thus it's to be forgotten and someone needs to fucking pay for shining the light on these cockroaches so an insurance plan was cooked up even before the election was held and the scapegoats were going to be the very Rooskies that made off with a hefty portion of U.S uranium while padding the pockets of deep staters like those mentioned above. So allow me to kindly tell you to go fuck yourself and don't EVER call me out as if you are going to school me on any fucking thing. Maybe Trump is just an actor and this is all a charade to make us hate each other..at this point I don't discount anything but before you attempt to cast stones behind that leftard glass tower you protect with so much zeal? You might want to reflect on what you are REALLY defending.

Got it. You're still a nutbag that will fall for any conspiracy theory that comes along. I keep holding out hope for you, even when I know it's hopeless. Believe what you will. Reality will be here if you ever want to visit.

Believing that Trump and the Rooskies started plotting in 2011 to win the 2016 election KNOWING that Trump ( no beltway insider where everyone thought that his tossing his hat in the ring was a joke) would defeat a field of 16 other candidates?

Now that is a far fetched "conspiracy theory", Bulldawg. It's all bullshit that those of your ilk need to hang onto when there is nothing left. I noticed how you absolutely slithered around all the salient points I made and simply resorted to lame insults. I thought better of ya.

Who said it started in 2011? You're making another one of those jumps from fact to imagination that you are so famous for.

I am shocked, stunned even.....I am speechless (which rarely happens)......OK, better now...

You mean haven't read the backdrop story of this tale of political intrigue and subterfuge that began in 2011???

Pssst, I am going to give you a hint via a song......seek and ye shall find....

Nice old song, but it doesn't answer the question. Who says Russia was focused on helping Trump and hurting Hillary in 2011?

Dig a little deeper in the well, Bulldog.......use Google.....type in Christopher Steele (using three "e's) then dossier AND 2011........holy fuck, how do you even navigate the web, my friend?