Should atheists or progressives be allowed to hold office?

[IndependantAce]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

 

[IndependantAce]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

Progressivism and atheism seem to logically tie into one another though; the forefathers of modern progressivism such as John Stuart Mill were atheists, and viewing the world as purely material was a central theme to their utopian socialist ideology.

I'm not sure how someone can believe in God or inalienable rights and be a progressive without being logically inconsistent, I don't anyway.

 

[Staidhup]

Interesting observation considering the oath of office and swearing in is with a Bible culminating with the statement So Help Me God.
Apparently we have some politicians that will have to stand in judgement for their conduct and words.

 

[Asclepias]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Who is going to stop them if you decide yes?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think we should be very specific with what religious groups should be allowed to hold office. That's where this discussion needs to begin, as our founders intended it.

First we have to discuss which version of the Bible people need to follow. Because if their denomination follows a different version they cannot be trusted. Here is the list:

List of English Bible translations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What do you guys think?

 

[FA_Q2]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

Except that you are outright rejecting the constitution when you say this.

 

[IndependantAce]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

Except that you are outright rejecting the constitution when you say this.

How so?

 

[Jack4jill]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Wow, this one is extra stupid. See the fucking Constitution, bitch.

 

[IndependantAce]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Wow, this one is extra stupid. See the fucking Constitution, bitch.

Speaking of which, if atheism isn't a religion how is it protected under the 1st Amendment to begin with?

 

[FA_Q2]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

Except that you are outright rejecting the constitution when you say this.

How so?

There are no religious requirements to hold office. Such religious requirements would be counter to the intent of the government.

You say that atheists should not hold office. What about Muslims? Hindus? Satanists?

Religious belief has nothing to do with office whatsoever - a will to support the constitution and its purpose is what is important and an athist is no more or less equipped to do so than a claimed religious person.

 

[FA_Q2]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Wow, this one is extra stupid. See the fucking Constitution, bitch.

Speaking of which, if atheism isn't a religion how is it protected under the 1st Amendment to begin with?

Religious belief is protected and that includes the lack of a belief.

 

[Jack4jill]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Wow, this one is extra stupid. See the fucking Constitution, bitch.

Speaking of which, if atheism isn't a religion how is it protected under the 1st Amendment to begin with?

It doesn't matter what it is, you're a moron. There can be no religious test for office here. It's unconstitutional, dumbfuck.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We should bar fundamentalist Christian conservatives from public office, since they put God before country, and God before our Constitution.

 

[amrchaos]

If a man gives his word, then only his integrity is the basis for his word.

A person that actually believes in a religion is no more or less likely to have integrity.

Fear of God? How many disciples betrayed Jesus? There was more than one--and they betrayed him while Jesus walked the Earth with them.

Some believers really need to open their eyes. Fear of God is a very weak bond! It guarantees little.

 

[IndependantAce]

We should bar fundamentalist Christian conservatives from public office, since they put God before country, and God before our Constitution.

How so; the Constitution was founded on the notion of people being endowed by their creator with inalienable rights.

If atheists reject a creator (and consequentially the rights) how can they uphold the Constitution?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Obviously this isn’t a serious thread, given the idiocy of its premise.

 

[HUGGY]

Elected officials have to take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Atheists and progressives reject the Founders and believe that humans have no inherant rights beyond what the state decides on a whim; since they don't believe in the Constitution why should they be allowed to run for office?

Fuck you a-hole. You worthless shit stain. It is the believers in fairy tales that have set back human development 3000 years. Atheists have a better understanding of the Constitution than the pukes that put their gods above the law of the land.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

And here’s an idiot, typical of many on the right.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Progressives yes, atheists no.

An atheist cannot seriously take the oath of office as it is meaningless to them as anything more than a mere pledge.

Progressivism and atheism seem to logically tie into one another though; the forefathers of modern progressivism such as John Stuart Mill were atheists, and viewing the world as purely material was a central theme to their utopian socialist ideology.

I'm not sure how someone can believe in God or inalienable rights and be a progressive without being logically inconsistent, I don't anyway.

Your threads and posts have nothing whatsoever to do with ‘logic.’

They’re about ignorance, stupidity, and lies – this thread is no different.