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The far left wants "separation of church and state", but wants the government to control "Marriage".
The far left Hypocrisy on this issue is an eye opener.
Well not really.
Civil marriage is not religious. The government already "controls" civil marriage, gays want equal access to it, equal protection under the law. It has absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with religion.
Religions will be free, as they always have, to not perform marriage ceremonies that violate the tenants of their faith. How do I know this? By all the churches that were forced to perform interracial or interfaith marriages.
Churches will change through public opinion...just as they ALWAYS have.
The far left wants "separation of church and state", but wants the government to control "Marriage".
The far left Hypocrisy on this issue is an eye opener.
Well not really.
This doesnt make any sense.
It was the original intent of the Framers that church and state remain separate, liberals understand and acknowledge this fact.
And government has always controlled marriage, as the states write the marriage laws and administer those laws in state courts. The 14th Amendment requires that the states allow all persons access to the laws of the states, in this case same-sex couples access to marriage law theyre eligible to participate in.
Consequently, theres no hypocrisy on the part of liberals, as their position is consistent with the Constitution and its case law. 14th Amendment jurisprudence applies only to government, and can in no way interfere with religious practice.
Which brings us once again back to the idiocy of the OP, where no one is seeking to compel any Christian denomination to marry same-sex couples in their churches, and no government has the authority to compel them to do so.
Seawytch is correct and there's nothing racist about it.
Oh, I claim no particular legal expertise in the matter, despite the fact that I have 20+ years of nonprofit -focused middle-management experience.
If you believe that my assessment of nonprofit status, in connection with the rental of facilities, is incorrect, then, by all means say so, and offer-up a few words of wisdom as to why you believe that to be the case. Otherwise, you're shootin' blanks on this one, mine good colleague.
Rent My Church | Home demonstrates that churches advertise publicly their wedding facilities for rent.
Public accommodation law, my friend.
Are you operating under the impression that I disputed the idea that churches rent-out their premises for various events?
I don't really know OFF HAND - But male sex drive and female sex drive are two different creatures . I can't think of a single case of females molesting children , except of course the occassiona lteacher who bangs an under age student. What's your point ? and why don't you google it and get back to us .
Indeed, you don't think, Greanbean, you simply emote.
You have no factual, objective evidence for your opinions, and they are not evidence. You are flatly wrong. And, in fact, the numbers overwhelmingly of abusers are heterosexual adult males.
Greenbean Snow, you know nothing.
Do you understand percentages and per capita ? Apparently not - well where I went to school that was taught in Junior High -percentages in Grade School - have you gotten to level yet ?
When less than 5% of the Population is committing about 1/3 of the child molestation cases then yes - that is an indication that something is drastically wrong with that minute percentage of people.
The far left wants "separation of church and state", but wants the government to control "Marriage".
The far left Hypocrisy on this issue is an eye opener.
Well not really.
Civil marriage is not religious. The government already "controls" civil marriage, gays want equal access to it, equal protection under the law. It has absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with religion.
Religions will be free, as they always have, to not perform marriage ceremonies that violate the tenants of their faith. How do I know this? By all the churches that were forced to perform interracial or interfaith marriages.
Churches will change through public opinion...just as they ALWAYS have.
Another far left myth being promoted so the hate for the church can flow and be justified by those who only want to punish.
Kosh is a far right myth maker. As long as churches do not publicly hold themselves out as wedding centers for rent, they will be shielded by the 1st Amendment.
That's the ignorant post of the day.
Not hardly. You and koshergrl and Greenbean regularly post stupidly all day.
NAMBLA, though, has nothing to do with the OP.
Yet you are unable to refute - why because it's true and you're an asshat.
GreenBean said:Let's get something straight puss bucket
Not hardly. You and koshergrl and Greenbean regularly post stupidly all day.
NAMBLA, though, has nothing to do with the OP.
Yet you are unable to refute - why because it's true and you're an asshat.
Your nonsense, your opinions posting as facts on this OP, have been constantly and correctly refuted.
Churches, as long as they are not renting out their facilities public for weddings, will be shielded by the 1st Amendment from having to host weddings by your types.
Your nonsense, your opinions posting as facts on this OP, have been constantly and correctly refuted.
To the 3 people who voted in favor of forcing churches to accommodate homosexual marriage, what planet are you from?
To the 3 people who voted in favor of forcing churches to accommodate homosexual marriage, what planet are you from?
Case in Point
To the 3 people who voted in favor of forcing churches to accommodate homosexual marriage, what planet are you from?
Planet disrespect, I guess.
GreenBean said:Let's get something straight puss bucket
Your vileness on this board confirms your heterofascism, your bigotry against women and people of color, and against the majority of Christians who disagree with you.
The behavior of you and those who think like you are exactly why marriage equality is required.
Case in Point
Already presented and proved by several posters.
You got nothing.
Anyone can peruse here: http://www.usmessageboard.com/search.php?searchid=8070152
I did?Rent My Church | Home demonstrates that churches advertise publicly their wedding facilities for rent.
Public accommodation law, my friend.
Are you operating under the impression that I disputed the idea that churches rent-out their premises for various events?
You wrongfully disputed that by doing so publicly they will open themselves to homosexual weddings.
Of course the courts will protect the churches' rights to private association.
I have a constitution.
Yes, you do, and the courts will interpret it for you on questions like the OP.
