Should Democrats be given 30 million new voters ?

[daws101]

Nothing logical about anything you post .
Everything you post is a fallacy or based on one.

You still haven't posted any evidence that foreigners have a right to become citizens.

bring us your poor hungry masses yearning to be free.
Sounds like an invitation to become citizens to me.

That's a poem written by a Frenchman on the Statue of Liberty. It has no legal significance.

Emma Lazarus was not French and not a man

Whatever. It's still just a poem.

So is the national anthem. .just a poem and a badly written one at best.

 

[Unkotare]

The Constitution says I have a right to be one......

You have made it perfectly clear over and over again that you have NO respect for or understanding of the Constitution and that you flat-out hate this country. Fuck you, get out.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

good change isn't so hard......bad change is.....and we've had nothing but bad change since your anti-American prez took office....

bringing in 1/4 of Mexico is going to destroy America....

Two points for you to ponder, Screaming Beagle:

Your party's and ideology downfall is directly linked to your prejudices in calling Obama an "anti-American"....and

Secondly, would it be too much of a shock for you to learn that a good chuck of the conservative south was once part of Mexico?

A president who is very vocal about gun regulations with every shooting that occurs. but remains carefully silent with regard to ISIS terrorists who had beheaded Americans, I wouldn't associate him as being a patriot. Especially when Obama went even further to defend them, through an effort to compare Muslim extremists with Christians and the crusades. Any president who is not willing to stand up for his own citizens, but is more concerned with saving his own "self" image through how he is portrayed from among the Muslims in the Midfle East, IS anti-American without a doubt.

 

[daws101]

good change isn't so hard......bad change is.....and we've had nothing but bad change since your anti-American prez took office....

bringing in 1/4 of Mexico is going to destroy America....

Two points for you to ponder, Screaming Beagle:

Your party's and ideology downfall is directly linked to your prejudices in calling Obama an "anti-American"....and

Secondly, would it be too much of a shock for you to learn that a good chuck of the conservative south was once part of Mexico?

A president who is very vocal about gun regulations with every shooting that occurs. but remains carefully silent with regard to ISIS terrorists who had beheaded Americans, I wouldn't associate him as being a patriot. Especially when Obama went even further to defend them, through an effort to compare Muslim extremists with Christians and the crusades. Any president who is not willing to stand up for his own citizens, but is more concerned with saving his own "self" image through how he is portrayed from among the Muslims in the Midfle East, IS anti-American without a doubt.

Absolute bullshit.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Who is us ? Who is we ?
Afraid to stand alone?

I just told you who "we the people" is. It doesn't include illegal aliens.

Why? Why can't aliens, even technically illegal, have a reasonable path to citizenship?

The question is whether they have a right to one, not whether we can give them one.

What's the difference? If there's no prohibition then they have a right to it.

Wrong.

It's obvious you are unable to commit logic.

Wrong. Your logic came to it's logical conclusion and failed you.

If there is no prohibition for an applicant for citizenship then by default they have the right to it as you have no justification to deny it.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You sure as hell haven't demonstrated any reason why YOU deserve to be one.

The Constitution says I have a right to be one, moron.

Really where?

Read the preamble, moron.

You're in the running for the dumbest poster in the forum.

I'm going to nominate you for the "dummy of the month" award.

The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that time
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .

What did an illegal alien do to earn the right? Don't bother replying. We both know the answer is "nothing."
The only question that needs to be answered is "what's in our best interests?" Immigration of ignorant peasants from third world countries is definitely not in our best interests.

What is the current standard in place that outlines what is neccessary to " earn" a chance at citizenship?

What of those who have surpassed the standard of " best interest" ?

You're talking a lot, but saying nothing.

 

[nat4900]

Absolute bullshit

True, but his avatar makes him feel like a "real" American.

 

[daws101]

Absolute bullshit

True, but his avatar makes him feel like a "real" American.

It's the John Wayne syndrome on steroids.

 

[bripat9643]

The Constitution says I have a right to be one, moron.

Really where?

Read the preamble, moron.

You're in the running for the dumbest poster in the forum.

I'm going to nominate you for the "dummy of the month" award.

The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that time
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .

You mean "we the people" doesn't mean "we the people?" What's the basis for your laughable claim that it only referred to people alive at the time?

Lol because that's who it was intended for .
You seem to forget or are too ignorant to realize that at the time there was no guarantee that the country would survive past their time.
One of use is stupid and ignorant and it ain't me.

In other words, you're right because you say so.

You're an idiot who knows nothing about history or the Constitution.

 

[bripat9643]

You still haven't posted any evidence that foreigners have a right to become citizens.

bring us your poor hungry masses yearning to be free.
Sounds like an invitation to become citizens to me.

That's a poem written by a Frenchman on the Statue of Liberty. It has no legal significance.

So it's ok with you that the law is amoral and abortion should not be a legal issue.

The law on illegal aliens is perfectly moral: they have no right to become citizens, period.

You have yet to post any evidence that they do. You keep running away with your tail between your legs like a scared little puppy dog.

Fantasizing are we?

No.

 

[bripat9643]

The Constitution says I have a right to be one......

You have made it perfectly clear over and over again that you have NO respect for or understanding of the Constitution and that you flat-out hate this country. Fuck you, get out.

I hate the government. That doesn't mean I hate the country. The Constitution was an honest attempt at limited government, but it failed. It's fatally flawed. The Founders that our elected leaders would be honest well intentioned men, not despicable scumbags like Lincoln.

 

[bripat9643]

I just told you who "we the people" is. It doesn't include illegal aliens.

Why? Why can't aliens, even technically illegal, have a reasonable path to citizenship?

The question is whether they have a right to one, not whether we can give them one.

What's the difference? If there's no prohibition then they have a right to it.

Wrong.

It's obvious you are unable to commit logic.

Wrong. Your logic came to it's logical conclusion and failed you.

If there is no prohibition for an applicant for citizenship then by default they have the right to it as you have no justification to deny it.

That's what you call "logic?" So of the Constitution doesn't prohibit it, then I have a right to it? Do I have a right to own nuclear weapons? How about to make child pornography? Murder? Steal?

 

[bripat9643]

The Constitution says I have a right to be one, moron.

Really where?

Read the preamble, moron.

You're in the running for the dumbest poster in the forum.

I'm going to nominate you for the "dummy of the month" award.

The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that time
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .

What did an illegal alien do to earn the right? Don't bother replying. We both know the answer is "nothing."
The only question that needs to be answered is "what's in our best interests?" Immigration of ignorant peasants from third world countries is definitely not in our best interests.

What is the current standard in place that outlines what is neccessary to " earn" a chance at citizenship?

What of those who have surpassed the standard of " best interest" ?

You're talking a lot, but saying nothing.

Virtually no one passes the test of "what's in our best interests." Name one person who benefits me by immigrating to this country. What I'm saying is that both legal and illegal immigration should be totally stopped.

 

[Unkotare]

The Constitution says I have a right to be one......

You have made it perfectly clear over and over again that you have NO respect for or understanding of the Constitution and that you flat-out hate this country. Fuck you, get out.

I hate the government. That doesn't mean I hate the country. .....

You have made it very clear over and over and over that you hate my country. You sure as hell don't understand it. Get the fuck out, scumbag.

 

[bripat9643]

The Constitution says I have a right to be one......

You have made it perfectly clear over and over again that you have NO respect for or understanding of the Constitution and that you flat-out hate this country. Fuck you, get out.

I hate the government. That doesn't mean I hate the country. .....

You have made it very clear over and over and over that you hate my country. You sure as hell don't understand it. Get the fuck out, scumbag.

Hating tyrants like Lincoln doesn't equate to "hating your country."

Here's news for you, moron: it's my country too. Too bad it doesn't live up to all the blowhard propaganda it spews.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

good change isn't so hard......bad change is.....and we've had nothing but bad change since your anti-American prez took office....

bringing in 1/4 of Mexico is going to destroy America....

Two points for you to ponder, Screaming Beagle:

Your party's and ideology downfall is directly linked to your prejudices in calling Obama an "anti-American"....and

Secondly, would it be too much of a shock for you to learn that a good chuck of the conservative south was once part of Mexico?

A president who is very vocal about gun regulations with every shooting that occurs. but remains carefully silent with regard to ISIS terrorists who had beheaded Americans, I wouldn't associate him as being a patriot. Especially when Obama went even further to defend them, through an effort to compare Muslim extremists with Christians and the crusades. Any president who is not willing to stand up for his own citizens, but is more concerned with saving his own "self" image through how he is portrayed from among the Muslims in the Midfle East, IS anti-American without a doubt.

Absolute bullshit.

That is so very easy to say. Tell me ... Why exactly did Obama choose to associate the Muslium extremists to Christians and the crusades, knowing full well the people and particularly the families of the victims still had a recent memory of ISIS beheading those Americans? Definitely not the best decision to make, yet he makes no apology for it. His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.

 

[nat4900]

His condemning language appears so much softer and hesitant with the extremists than when he takes a stand against gun violence, to the point he often times can't even use the word terrorists to describe their acts.

Obama's reluctance to use such terms as "extremism" is a calculated one.....and a wise one......All that such language would do is to undermine the much needed diplomacy in the Islamic communities, and only "please" domestic extremists.....like you who refer to a decent American president as a "Muslim" which has become the right wingers' euphemistic term for being black.

 

[Stephanie]

oh lookie. Obama DHS fears more on the way. aren't we so lucky. WE have MILLIONS of legal citizens out of work. but hey we can take in the whole world I guess

SNIP:
DHS admits new surge of illegal immigrant families

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Friday, August 7, 2015


The country saw another surge of illegal immigrant families crossing the border in July, a top Homeland Security official told a federal court late Thursday as the administration begged a judge not to forbid detention of new migrant mothers and children.

Deputy Border Patrol Chief Ronald Vitiello said the number of illegal immigrant families captured at the border rose in July, bucking a trend and worrying officials who had been expecting the number of families to drop as the heat increases in late summer, just as the number of unaccompanied minors does.

Even worse, the administration fears things may get worse if illegal immigrants hear about Judge Dolly M. Gee’s July 24 ruling all but prohibiting detention of illegal immigrant families.

Indeed, the administration warned that Central American parents may actually be enticed to bring their children on the perilous journey north, realizing that they can use their kids as shields to get themselves released from detention. That, in turn, could mean more even children being forced to make the trip up.


all of it here:
DHS admits new surge of illegal immigrant families - Washington Times

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Why? Why can't aliens, even technically illegal, have a reasonable path to citizenship?

The question is whether they have a right to one, not whether we can give them one.

What's the difference? If there's no prohibition then they have a right to it.

Wrong.

It's obvious you are unable to commit logic.

Wrong. Your logic came to it's logical conclusion and failed you.

If there is no prohibition for an applicant for citizenship then by default they have the right to it as you have no justification to deny it.

That's what you call "logic?" So of the Constitution doesn't prohibit it, then I have a right to it? Do I have a right to own nuclear weapons? How about to make child pornography? Murder? Steal?

What does any of that have to do with immigration?
So all rights can come only through the constitution?
If something is not prohibited then by default you have the right to it. There is no getting around that.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Really where?

Read the preamble, moron.

You're in the running for the dumbest poster in the forum.

I'm going to nominate you for the "dummy of the month" award.

The we you keep abusing was intended for the people of that time
It doesn't mean what want it to mean.
You are only a citizen by an accident of birth.
You've not earned that right .

What did an illegal alien do to earn the right? Don't bother replying. We both know the answer is "nothing."
The only question that needs to be answered is "what's in our best interests?" Immigration of ignorant peasants from third world countries is definitely not in our best interests.

What is the current standard in place that outlines what is neccessary to " earn" a chance at citizenship?

What of those who have surpassed the standard of " best interest" ?

You're talking a lot, but saying nothing.

Virtually no one passes the test of "what's in our best interests." Name one person who benefits me by immigrating to this country. What I'm saying is that both legal and illegal immigration should be totally stopped.

Sorry to break it to you but not being a benefit to you is not a prequalifier.

Why stop immigration? What's your justification?