Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

[BlindBoo]

No. Now send me 20 bucks for your ultimate redemption and everlasting salvation in the arms of the Lord.

Cash is preferred.

How is that different than States hawking lotto tickets?

Just replace salvation with millions of dollars.

I'm not offering odds or a cash payout. Just send me your money on blind faith that it will lead to you being cradled in the Loving arms of Our Lord for Eternity (after you die of course and can no longer send me money!) Did I say 20 dollars? I mean 20 dollars a week........

20 a week is more like people keeping their gym membership open when they never go.

Is it too much to ask for a healthy Soul and Glorious Afterlife?

 

[jillian]

All religions are fraudulent IMO.

I know you don't think it's up to government to say that.

Well, who goes after those fleecing innocents.

It’s a touchy thing. The instinct is to go after snake oil salesmen. On the other hand, how do you go after someone who sells holy water? Or a bible?

That’s kind of why they tend to leave it alone until they can’t.

 

[GreatestIam]

Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.

Perhaps, but is it worth the price.

African witches and Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6gvtYrga8


Death to Gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE

Pastor Kissing Women Between Their Butt Cheeks!


Pastor Orders Female Congregants To Come To Church Without Underwear for Christ to Enter


I have more of those great benefits you are ignoring.

Regards
DL

 

[mudwhistle]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Any other country has regulated religions.
America doesn't.

France is leading in this just as they did with their French Revolution.

They led the way to help usher in Democracy and are leading the way in helping to usher in intelligent control of religions.

Religions, like governments, are tool of our oligarch owners but the French have their oligarchs paying for secular control of the country and putting religions where they belong. Beneath under secular law and their governments.

In the U.S. the religious are wagging your government tail instead of your government wagging religious tails.

All the while spouting off about separation of church and state.

Regards
DL

In America the government should fear it's citizens....not the citizens fear the government.
That's why this is America.

 

[ding]

Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity.

 

[Dr Grump]

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Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations.

And jihad, and covering up of priest child molestation and war...

 

[ding]

Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.

 

[Dr Grump]

It’s a touchy thing. The instinct is to go after snake oil salesmen. On the other hand, how do you go after someone who sells holy water? Or a bible?

That’s kind of why they tend to leave it alone until they can’t.

Yeppers, I agree...

 

[GreatestIam]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Any other country has regulated religions.
America doesn't.

France is leading in this just as they did with their French Revolution.

They led the way to help usher in Democracy and are leading the way in helping to usher in intelligent control of religions.

Religions, like governments, are tool of our oligarch owners but the French have their oligarchs paying for secular control of the country and putting religions where they belong. Beneath under secular law and their governments.

In the U.S. the religious are wagging your government tail instead of your government wagging religious tails.

All the while spouting off about separation of church and state.

Regards
DL

In America the government should fear it's citizens....not the citizens fear the government.
That's why this is America.

That was the way. It no longer is.

Your American Dream has turned into a nightmare.

Now if good old John Wayne's attitude had not died were still around and cowards still had a moral sense, I would love you guys the way I used to.

You are letting the whole world down and putting world wide democracy in jeopardy.



Regards
DL

 

[BlindBoo]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Christianity in America would be in deep trouble.

TV Evangelicals are Satan walking the Earth, and evangelicals voted for Trump by 80%. The most immoral person to ever run for office. Fraud? The Christian church in the US is the largest money laundering scam in the history of the world.

There is no such thing as "The Christian Church"

If you are going to despise something, at least take the effort to learn about it.

The Church is the body of Christ. The "Christian" church simply refers to all Christians, together, regardless of specific (Christian) denomination.

The body of Christ is quite sick. Putrid in fact.

Regards
DL

100 to 1 it's now dust.

 

[mudwhistle]

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Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations.

And jihad, and covering up of priest child molestation and war...

Muslims are supported by Democrats, Catholics like Nancy Pelosi, and warmongers like Hillary and Obama.

 

[BlindBoo]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Just keep your hands off the great pumpkin.

Only if his clergy are not the same type of liars and thieves that the mainstream religions have.

Regards
DL

Saint Linus Van Pelt was no liar.

 

[Dr Grump]

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Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations.

And jihad, and covering up of priest child molestation and war...

Muslims are supported by Democrats, Catholics like Nancy Pelosi, and warmongers like Hillary and Obama.

And Pentecostals support Trumpie....and I don't mean that in a good way.

 

[GreatestIam]

Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.

Pffft.

Educate yourself and try talking out of your mouth for a change.

Then again, a troll like you and your crap one liners has become quite good at doing my work of discrediting your religion.

I wonder how long before people you are an atheist working your own way to kill Christianity.

Keep up the good work and just because I ignore you, there are many fish here that your trolling will catch.

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/

Even me when you give me the right opening.

Regards
Atheist

 

[mudwhistle]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Any other country has regulated religions.
America doesn't.

France is leading in this just as they did with their French Revolution.

They led the way to help usher in Democracy and are leading the way in helping to usher in intelligent control of religions.

Religions, like governments, are tool of our oligarch owners but the French have their oligarchs paying for secular control of the country and putting religions where they belong. Beneath under secular law and their governments.

In the U.S. the religious are wagging your government tail instead of your government wagging religious tails.

All the while spouting off about separation of church and state.

Regards
DL

In America the government should fear it's citizens....not the citizens fear the government.
That's why this is America.

That was the way. It no longer is.

Your American Dream has turned into a nightmare.

Now if good old John Wayne's attitude had not died were still around and cowards still had a moral sense, I would love you guys the way I used to.

You are letting the whole world down and putting world wide democracy in jeopardy.



Regards
DL

Yeah.....Fuck You.

This picture used to hang in my team room at 5th SFGroup back when I was on an ODA.

I don't need a dirbag like you telling me about what this country is supposed to be like.

 

[mudwhistle]

[
Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations.

And jihad, and covering up of priest child molestation and war...

Muslims are supported by Democrats, Catholics like Nancy Pelosi, and warmongers like Hillary and Obama.

And Pentecostals support Trumpie....and I don't mean that in a good way.

Terrorists supported Obama.....

 

[GreatestIam]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Just keep your hands off the great pumpkin.

Only if his clergy are not the same type of liars and thieves that the mainstream religions have.

Regards
DL

Saint Linus Van Pelt was no liar.

I'm afraid you have me at a loss buddy. Please elucidate.

Regards
DL

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In that by any objective measure religion has been a force for good.

hhhmmm....Nah, I think on the whole it has been very destructive. I think at the outset, when the parameters were set by the Jews - 10 commandments and all that - it was good. But since then it is has gone downhill. The examples of religion overstepping its boudns are endless. You could argue the priests and Mother Teresa's of the world have evened things out, and they might have.

Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.

Sure, while not practicing what they preach.

Your Christian nation has the worst crime, jail and abortion stats in the world and that is what being a Christian country has led you to.

Keep promoting Christianity, but only if you wish to continue with such horrible stats.

Your population have really taken to heart your Exsultet hymn that calls Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary.

You guys all act like Adam and all your Protestants also follow these great words.

“Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.” Martin Luther

You have taken the first to heart and ignore the rest.

Regards
DL

This is where you are wrong again. Nations are not "christian" or any other religion. People are Christians, not nations.

 

[miketx]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Just keep your hands off the great pumpkin.

Only if his clergy are not the same type of liars and thieves that the mainstream religions have.

Regards
DL

Saint Linus Van Pelt was no liar.

I'm afraid you have me at a loss buddy. Please elucidate.

Regards
DL

You mean hallucinate right?

 

[martybegan]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

fraud laws - Google Search

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

Government can only get involved in actual fraud, regardless of the source.

Selling people hope and dreams could never be made illegal, if so progressives would all be in prison.

If all that lying for money that religions do is not fraud to you then look at how fraud is described again for the first time.

Regards
DL

Considering no one knows what happens after we die for a fact, how can anything they claim be considered a lie?

Your own question answers itself.

Considering no one knows what happens after we die for a fact, how can anything said of the after life that is not a lie?

Regards
DL

To prove a lie, one first has to know the truth. Since no one knows the truth, a lie cannot be proven.

At best anything can be called a guess, educated or not, but it cannot be considered a lie to guess about it.