Should Jerusalem be made an international city?

[Hyrcanus]

Yes, the Old City should become an Independent City-state like the Vatican.

It should be ruled by a Council made up of equal parts Jews, Muslims, and Christians.

There will be a Chancellor that alternates between a Jewish, Muslim, and Christian person every four years.

 

[toastman]

Look, International Law, through the UN gave Israel legitimacy as a State...Of course the Arabs refused to adopt the Resolution was in essense a Land Taking by the Western Colonial Powers.

All of Israel's conquests since the 48 war have no blessings or legitimacy from anyone on earth. Not even America.

Share Jerusalem and go back to the re-negotiated 67 borders. Create Justice or war. Its Israel's move.

Not gonna happen !

You are probably correct, whoever concedes jurisdiction of Jerusalem would probably be discredited by their-own people, or worse...That's why Jerusalem must be shared sovereignty...

I wish they could share the Mosque and turn half of it into a Jewish Temple. So much hate, and emotion about Biblical Iron Age Myths tearing people apart.


If Israel refuses to join the UN Resolution granted to the Palestinians an observer state to the 67 borders; expect the present intellectual Boycotts of leading scientists like Prof. Hawkins to lead to Economic and Military Sanctions.

Also not going to happen.

The '67 borders is just one of those thing that the Palestinians and their supporters need to forget. It's a dream, that will not come true

 

[toastman]

Yes, the Old City should become an Independent City-state like the Vatican.

It should be ruled by a Council made up of equal parts Jews, Muslims, and Christians.

There will be a Chancellor that alternates between a Jewish, Muslim, and Christian person every four years.

No. Just, no ..

 

[HistoryBefore67]

Yes, the Old City should become an Independent City-state like the Vatican.

It should be ruled by a Council made up of equal parts Jews, Muslims, and Christians.

There will be a Chancellor that alternates between a Jewish, Muslim, and Christian person every four years.

Never going to happen, nor should it.

Israel has provided access for all faiths, and protected the holy sites of all religions.

No need to change that.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Jerusalem means nothing to the Muslims, but everything to the Jews and Christians.

 

[Hyrcanus]

Also not going to happen.

The '67 borders is just one of those thing that the Palestinians and their supporters need to forget. It's a dream, that will not come true

Even the Arab League has accepted the idea of the 1967 borders with small land swaps. Most understand that Palestine won't be exactly along the 1967 borders, but it will contain the same amount of land as the 1967 borders. Israel will trade areas in the Galilee for areas around Jerusalem.

 

[HistoryBefore67]

Also not going to happen.

The '67 borders is just one of those thing that the Palestinians and their supporters need to forget. It's a dream, that will not come true

Even the Arab League has accepted the idea of the 1967 borders with small land swaps. Most understand that Palestine won't be exactly along the 1967 borders, but it will contain the same amount of land as the 1967 borders. Israel will trade areas in the Galilee for areas around Jerusalem.

No, Israel won't.

I don't know where you get the idea that Israel is required to accept the scraps offered by the Arabs in exchange for a promise to one day in the future maybe possibly sign a peace treaty of some sort.

 

[Wonky Pundit]

Jerusalem means nothing to the Muslims, but everything to the Jews and Christians.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven. According to the historical data available, it seems unlikely that Mohammed was anywhere near Jerusalem at the time of his death.

 

[Hyrcanus]

No, Israel won't.

I don't know where you get the idea that Israel is required to accept the scraps offered by the Arabs in exchange for a promise to one day in the future maybe possibly sign a peace treaty of some sort.

Israel wouldn't agree to 5% land swaps with the West Bank under any circumstances?

what makes you think that?

 

[Hyrcanus]

Jerusalem means nothing to the Muslims, but everything to the Jews and Christians.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven. According to the historical data available, it seems unlikely that Mohammed was anywhere near Jerusalem at the time of his death.

According to Jewish theology, the rock under the Dome of the Rock is where Abraham almost sacrified Isaac but instead sacrificed a calf.

According to historical data available, it seems unlikely that such an event ever occured.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Jerusalem means nothing to the Muslims, but everything to the Jews and Christians.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven. According to the historical data available, it seems unlikely that Mohammed was anywhere near Jerusalem at the time of his death.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven.

That's awesome. So where in the Koran does it say that?

 

[toastman]

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[toastman]

Jerusalem means nothing to the Muslims, but everything to the Jews and Christians.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven. According to the historical data available, it seems unlikely that Mohammed was anywhere near Jerusalem at the time of his death.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven.

That's awesome. So where in the Koran does it say that?

Did you know that Jerusalem (al-Quds) is not mentioned ONE in the Kuran

 

[HistoryBefore67]

No, Israel won't.

I don't know where you get the idea that Israel is required to accept the scraps offered by the Arabs in exchange for a promise to one day in the future maybe possibly sign a peace treaty of some sort.

Israel wouldn't agree to 5% land swaps with the West Bank under any circumstances?

what makes you think that?

I don't know where you are getting 5% from, but the point is, if you think that Israel is going to start with the "1967 lines" and then engage in minor land swaps, you're kidding yourself. Israel is under no obligation to accept the intellectually dishonest claim that those lines have any legitimacy whatsoever.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Jerusalem means nothing to the Muslims, but everything to the Jews and Christians.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven. According to the historical data available, it seems unlikely that Mohammed was anywhere near Jerusalem at the time of his death.

According to Jewish theology, the rock under the Dome of the Rock is where Abraham almost sacrified Isaac but instead sacrificed a calf.

According to historical data available, it seems unlikely that such an event ever occured.

It was a ram.
Mohammed lived closer to modern times, and there is more evidence that he lived his whole life in Arabia. There is no evidence that Abraham departed from Israel, after he moved there (if indeed such a person existed).

 

[HistoryBefore67]

Throughout the period of Muslim expansion, the religious cites of other faiths were routinely "discovered" to be the location where some previously unknown event in Islamic history occurred. Mosques were built on the sites of many churches, synagogues and other locations with religous significance.

How can anyone fail to see what this is really about?

 

[Wonky Pundit]

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven. According to the historical data available, it seems unlikely that Mohammed was anywhere near Jerusalem at the time of his death.

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven.

That's awesome. So where in the Koran does it say that?

Did you know that Jerusalem (al-Quds) is not mentioned ONE in the Kuran

Who said anything about the Kuran?

According to some Islamic scholars, the rock is the spot[18] from which Muhammad ascended to Heaven accompanied by the angel Gabriel. Further, Muhammad was taken here by Gabriel to pray with Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.[19] After Muhammad's return, he called all who would believe him to join with him and be Muslim.[18]

Source

 

[Hyrcanus]

I don't know where you are getting 5% from, but the point is, if you think that Israel is going to start with the "1967 lines" and then engage in minor land swaps, you're kidding yourself. Israel is under no obligation to accept the intellectually dishonest claim that those lines have any legitimacy whatsoever.

They're not obliged to do anything.

They can continue to rule over millions of Palestinians forever if they like.

But eventually they will have more people under their control that are not citizens than those who are citizens, and that's called Apartheid.

 

[Hyrcanus]

Throughout the period of Muslim expansion, the religious cites of other faiths were routinely "discovered" to be the location where some previously unknown event in Islamic history occurred. Mosques were built on the sites of many churches, synagogues and other locations with religous significance.

How can anyone fail to see what this is really about?

The Christians built a large Church on the Temple Mount.

what's your point?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

According to Muslim theology, the Dome of the Rock marks the site where Mohammed ascended to heaven.

That's awesome. So where in the Koran does it say that?

Did you know that Jerusalem (al-Quds) is not mentioned ONE in the Kuran

Who said anything about the Kuran?

According to some Islamic scholars, the rock is the spot[18] from which Muhammad ascended to Heaven accompanied by the angel Gabriel. Further, Muhammad was taken here by Gabriel to pray with Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.[19] After Muhammad's return, he called all who would believe him to join with him and be Muslim.[18]

Source

If it's not in the Koran, it doesn't count.
There is no Muslim theology besides the Koran.