Should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

[ding]

I don't think any should be in an environment with mentally disturbed people like fags.

Here's a prayer I'm saying to Jesus (if he's real): "Jesus, there is a hole in your teaching of love - love of gays - please come down and educate these haters that you love gays...if you indeed do, that is. Thanks."

Your condescension is thick.

 

[Joy4Uall]

>>Lynn Lavner: "The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision."

Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things - he never said that gay people should be condemned. I personally think it is very fine for gay people to be married in civil ceremonies. Jimmy Carter

A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: 'Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' We must always consider the person. Pope Francis

So when Jesus says "Love your enemies," he is setting forth a profound and ultimately inescapable admonition.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people.
Howard Dean

Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?... It is necessary to accompany them with mercy.
Pope Francis

What is straight? A line can be straight, or a street, but the human heart, oh, no, it's curved like a road through mountains.
Tennessee Williams

Down on your knees, and thank heaven, fasting, for a good man's love.
Euripides

The very general occurrence of the homosexual in ancient Greece, and its wide occurrence today in some cultures in which such activity is not taboo suggests that the capacity of an individual to respond erotically to any sort of stimulus, whether it is provided by another person of the same or opposite sex, is basic in the species.
Alfred Kinsey

The sex relation is not a personal relation. It can be irresistibly desired and rapturously consummated between persons who could not endure one another for a day in any other relation.
George Bernard Shaw

There's no specific punishment in the books of fiqh (Islamic laws) that relate to homosexuality per se. They apply to any illicit sexual relations, including prohibited heterosexual acts like adultery. And the punishments are strong, but they are legal fictions because they are impossible to prove. You need four witnesses to say they witnessed (sexual) penetration. In what circumstances are you going to find someone to testify to that?
Hamza Yusuf

I think that the Bible teaches that homosexuality is a sin, but the Bible also teaches that pride is a sin, jealousy is a sin, and hate is a sin, evil thoughts are a sin. So I don't think that homosexuality should be chosen as the overwhelming sin that we are doing today.
Billy Graham

“To begin with, homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia; one is sexual orientation and the other is sexual perversion. Yet, in that most cases of pedophilia involve incest, we must consider the question. If our objective is to prevent pedophilia in adoption then the only logical action is to permit only homosexuals to adopt children who are only of the opposite sex. This would reduce incest to zero. If we permit heterosexual couples to adopt children, then children would be at risk.”
Pope John Paul I

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.' (Leviticus 18:22). That means simply that it is foul to do to other men what men habitually, proudly, manfully do to women: use them as inanimate, empty, concave things; fuck them into submission; subordinate them through sex.”
Andrea Dworkin, Right Wing Women

is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only 1. Which one sHomosexualityeems unnatural now?
Amber Rose<<

This is a well-intentioned post.
But it white-washes and tries to cover up and just re-interpret the bad things about gays that the Bible says (The Quran is just as bad), so it's just a band-aid to the larger problem.
Scientific Humanism is a new belief system to not just white-wash the bad texts, but to start fresh.

 

[Joy4Uall]

No, no they should not. That is a warped way for any kid to be raised up.

There are plenty of childless hetero couples that would volunteer.

I had a friend that was raised by 2 korean dykes.

He hated it. They were mean to him.

That shouldn't happen.

You seem to hate innocent people (gays) as much as the heroes of the Bible hate gays. I'm sure you can muster more love than this.

 

[ABikerSailor]

No, no they should not. That is a warped way for any kid to be raised up.

There are plenty of childless hetero couples that would volunteer.

I had a friend that was raised by 2 korean dykes.

He hated it. They were mean to him.

That shouldn't happen.

There's the definitive answer we've all been waiting for.

The message is, dyke parents are mean.

Or wait, maybe it was because they were Korean!

Damn.....

It's because they were Korean. Poor kid never had a chance against 2 Tiger Moms!

And, like I've posted before.................I rented a room from a lesbian couple from 1997 to 1999, both were in the Navy, and both had been together since Cindy's daughter was 3. I knew them when she was 12 to 13, and she was a well adjusted heterosexual teen who had loving parents.

No, Tawnya probably had a better set of parents in Cindy and Connie than most kids that I've seen with a mother and a father.

I know that Tawnya's childhood was better than mine, even if she did have two lesbian parents.

 

[ding]

If they're stable and want a child, absolutely.

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I see all of these behaviors in your posts.

The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe.

 

[Sunni Man]

Let's find our love, find our compassion. I know we can do that.

If you want to smother homo's with love, then go ahead.

But don't expect me to like them, talk to them, or be around them.

They are sick perverts and walking disease containers. .....

 

[Joy4Uall]

If they're stable and want a child, absolutely.

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

 

[ricechickie]

If they're stable and want a child, absolutely.

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Sorry, I have a full-time job.

I have to choose my battles if I'm also going to pay bills.

The Bible does precious little to affect my behavior.

Are you just being a contrarian?

 

[Joy4Uall]

......They see no distinction between good and evil, .........

We do, actually, we differentiate between the Scientific Humanist teaching of tolerance towards gays (good) vs. the intolerance towards of gays that the Bible teaches and that Christians have so far been unable to improve on in their texts. We have the most "good" overall belief system (I don't want to the the Bible is all "evil", but parts of it are certainly not what's best for humanity, to be sure.)

Ok, I'm not a socialist like you claim, but I'm playing along here.

 

[miketx]

If they're stable and want a child, absolutely.

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Perhaps on the same day you'll be able to stop condemning children to a perverse unhealthy life style that you push regardless of the consequences.

 

[Joy4Uall]

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Sorry, I have a full-time job.

Inhabe to choose my battles if I'm also going to pay bills.

The Bible does precious little to affect my behavior.

Are you just being a contrarian?

I believe in Scientific Humanism, and it's a very, yes, "contrarian" belief system compared to most religions, but I'm not contrarian just to be a troll etc. I genuinely believe that this new approach is what's best for the world - and the hatred towards innocent people (gays) on this thread is clearly proving me right.

 

[ricechickie]

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Perhaps on the same day you'll be able to stop condemning children to a perverse unhealthy life style that you push regardless of the consequences.

Do you know anyone who has had gay parents?

What "consequences" come from that "life style"?

 

[Joy4Uall]

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Perhaps on the same day you'll be able to stop condemning children to a perverse unhealthy life style that you push regardless of the consequences.

Sure, some heteros AND some homos are a bad apples, but the Bible did get it wrong when it condemns ALL gays to "hell" (obviously implying that all gays are inherently bad people, of course.) The Bible got that wrong.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Absolutely not!!!!!

You've bought into the hatred for gays in the Bible, correct? Or can you say that the Bible got it wrong?

Nooooo....While I identify as Christian I would hardly be considered a Holy Roller.
I do however understand that raising children in such a household most certainly will warp their psyche.

If you can't say the Bible got it wrong (can you?) then you agree with the Bible that says that gays are so terrible that they deserve eternal torture, just for being gay.

I dont need to bring religion into the issue.

 

[Unkotare]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

Just for future reference, hope in humanity is almost always misplaced.

 

[Joy4Uall]

Their god disagrees with you, so who is wrong, you or their god?

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Sorry, I have a full-time job.

I have to choose my battles if I'm also going to pay bills.

The Bible does precious little to affect my behavior.

Are you just being a contrarian?

Not to put you down as such, but wouldn't it have been shorter to simply type (and have raised you to a higher moral level as well, my friend) "Yes, I condemn that homophobic god"?

 

[ricechickie]

Don't know their God, He never told me that.

People who want to agree with their God should simply refrain from homosexuality. There's no religious litmus test to adopt.

Here's one particular god - do you condemn this god?


Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 9:1
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

How can one be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth without doing so with the opposite sex?

Adam was legally married to Eve by God and it is recognized in this verse:

Genesis 4:1,25
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is against God's law to have sexual relations outside of marriage and that marriage must be between those of the opposite sex:

Ephesians 5:3
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Jude 1:7
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Leviticus 18:22
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It has been revealed in these latter-days that the covenant of marriage can be an eternal bond if done through the sealing power of the holy priesthood and according to will of God. Marriage is an eternal union for those who obtain the sealing.

Doctrine and Covenants 131:1-4
1 In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees;
2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage];
3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it.
4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase.

God created man and woman so that they could come together in an eternal union of happiness. Anything outside of this is against God's law of happiness that he ordained for mankind.

Alma 41:10
10 Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.

I don't have to "condemn" this God.

There's no religious requirements for adopting.

Some day you'll grow morally to be able to condemn hatred.

Sorry, I have a full-time job.

Inhabe to choose my battles if I'm also going to pay bills.

The Bible does precious little to affect my behavior.

Are you just being a contrarian?

I believe in Scientific Humanism, and it's a very, yes, "contrarian" belief system compared to most religions, but I'm not contrarian just to be a troll etc. I genuinely believe that this new approach is what's best for the world - and the hatred towards innocent people (gays) on this thread is clearly proving me right.

Well, have some perspective. This is a pretty hateful place, and I think it can be illustrative of how some people think, but I don't think posters on here are indicative of the world in general. Thank God (so to speak).

 

[Unkotare]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

Took one post didn't it. Americans will always require some out group to oppress, it's just who we are.

You're only speaking for the democrats.

 

[Sunni Man]

I genuinely believe that this new approach is what's best for the world - and the hatred towards innocent people (gays) on this thread is clearly proving me right.

Incorrect ..

This thread is clearly proving that your an idiot who approves of homo child molesters adopting children. ....

 

[Joy4Uall]

My question is: should LGBT people be allowed to adopt kids?

I'm sensing a lot of Biblically-inspired hatred of gays on this forum, but I'm hoping that people of compassion and reason will rise to the occasion and reply "yes, they should be allowed to adopt kids!"

Maybe my hope in humanity is misplaced.

Just for future reference, hope in humanity is almost always misplaced.

That's because the Bible teaches that we are all "sinners"....so hope in humanity is indeed hard to find (instead, people put hope in gods).....but Scientific Humanism does not put faith in gods, but puts faith in.....humanity (heck, "human" is even in the name itself.) Let's change the paradigm - have faith in HUMANITY.