Should Muller's investigation include Trump's financial history?

[nat4900]

They are used to handling lawsuits,

Trump U.come to mind.....??? LOL

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's actually the 4th that protects him and every other person in this country.

Of course, the government tramples all over that Amendment and most of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

What about the 4th protects a person from somebody with subpoena power?

radical right does not understand how warrants work. That is all.

I think the question is what does probable cause require

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

 

[bripat9643]

It's actually the 4th that protects him and every other person in this country.

Of course, the government tramples all over that Amendment and most of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

What about the 4th protects a person from somebody with subpoena power?

radical right does not understand how warrants work. That is all.

I think the question is what does probable cause require

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

Mueller doesn't have it.

 

[nat4900]

Anything it subpoenas is without probable cause because no crime has been identified. it's a fishing expedition, a witch hunt. This should be an intelligence investigation, not a legal persecution.

MiddleFingerBaby.........Listen carefully......ANY INVESTIGATION IS BY DEFINITION A FISHING EXPEDITION......

tattoo that in your half brain....LOL

 

[nat4900]

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

MiddleFingerBaby once caught an episode of Law & Order and is now opting for a job. clerking for Justice Thomas.

 

[rightwinger]

No. Trump says it is off limits and his 5th amendment rights should be observed.

Who cares what Trump says, later today or tomorrow he's likely to contradict himself. That's a pattern well established.

That way he is never wrong

 

[rightwinger]

No. Trump says it is off limits and his 5th amendment rights should be observed.

What part of the 5th do you think protects him?

It's actually the 4th that protects him and every other person in this country.

Of course, the government tramples all over that Amendment and most of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

The 4th protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. Mueller has congressional authority to investigate

You lose

 

[Wry Catcher]

What about the 4th protects a person from somebody with subpoena power?

What part of "probable cause" don't you understand?

I'm sure there are some esoteric parts that I don't know, but I don't think anyone was considering investigating without plenty of probable cause.

ROFL! This entire investigation lacks probable cause, numskull. You can't even name the crime being investigated.

Sure I can. Russia interfered with our elections, and there is reason to believe the Trump campaign colluded with them.

FYI,

''CONSPIRED with them'', is the proper legal term...colluded is not a recognized legal terminology,

and conspired with, means the same thing as, colluded with....

Collusion, "An agreement between two or more persons to defraud another to secure an object forbidden by law"
Warren v. Union Bank, 157 NY 259; 51 NE 1056

In this link the issue of collusion is written in standard English and all but the most partisan will dismiss it for various and sundry (no, not reasons) biases:

Fox News host wrong that no law bans Russia-Trump collusion

 

[bripat9643]

Anything it subpoenas is without probable cause because no crime has been identified. it's a fishing expedition, a witch hunt. This should be an intelligence investigation, not a legal persecution.

MiddleFingerBaby.........Listen carefully......ANY INVESTIGATION IS BY DEFINITION A FISHING EXPEDITION......

tattoo that in your half brain....LOL

Wrong. Prosecutors are not allowed to pick people out at random and start investigating them. There has to be some rational justification, evidence that a crime has been committed. A giant infantile hissy fit by a hoard of petulant snowflakes is not evidence of anything other than the irrationality and pettiness of leftwingers.

 

[bripat9643]

What part of "probable cause" don't you understand?

I'm sure there are some esoteric parts that I don't know, but I don't think anyone was considering investigating without plenty of probable cause.

ROFL! This entire investigation lacks probable cause, numskull. You can't even name the crime being investigated.

Sure I can. Russia interfered with our elections, and there is reason to believe the Trump campaign colluded with them.

FYI,

''CONSPIRED with them'', is the proper legal term...colluded is not a recognized legal terminology,

and conspired with, means the same thing as, colluded with....

Collusion, "An agreement between two or more persons to defraud another to secure an object forbidden by law"
Warren v. Union Bank, 157 NY 259; 51 NE 1056

In this link the issue of collusion is written in standard English and all but the most partisan will dismiss it for various and sundry (no, not reasons) biases:

Fox News host wrong that no law bans Russia-Trump collusion

You haven't defined what the "object forbidden by law" is. Defeating Hillary is not forbidden by law. Furthermore, there isn't the slightest bit of evidence for any agreement of any kind.

 

[bripat9643]

No. Trump says it is off limits and his 5th amendment rights should be observed.

What part of the 5th do you think protects him?

It's actually the 4th that protects him and every other person in this country.

Of course, the government tramples all over that Amendment and most of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

The 4th protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. Mueller has congressional authority to investigate

You lose

Congressional authority isn't "probable cause." Congress misuses its authority all the time.

 

[charwin95]

Body language expert examines Mueller's body language during this questioning and proves he is a liar. Watch this:

Why should the American people trust a man who has already been exposed as a bold faced liar? A man who worked with his good friend Comey to protect the Clinton Administration tooth and nail? Answer: We shouldn't.

What does the Book of Jeremiah state about walking around "grabbing pussies" because you're a TV star??? Just asking.

His statement was inexcusable and he confessed and apologized for it a long time ago. When can we expect a full confession from Bill and Hillary Clinton who have more blood on their hands than Jack the Ripper and never apologized to their rape victims or their families? You'll strain a gnat and swallow a camel. It's become your party signature.

The old Alex Jones like- conspiracy theory that the Clinton's are killers.
You so embarrass yourself..

How many people have worked for you, been connected to you in some way and died mysteriously? In 2016 the number of suspicious deaths connected to the Clintons was over 50. I believe it's close to 70 now. They give the phrase, "Getting away with Murder" a whole new meaning......
The List of Clinton Associates Who've Died Mysteriously. Check It Out.
THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney
Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.

Not the kind of person I want in charge of my country.

GOD BLESS THE USA.
_______________
Why didn't Robert Mueller ever investigate the Clintons? Answer: He was too busy protecting them and now he is going after the President who vowed to the American people that he would go after Hillary Clinton. Interesting, isn't it?

You are missing something big BOJ.
1. She is anti Hillary promoting Trump. These are the garbage that they put up to dig dirt against Clinton during the election. She cherry pick a lot of her post leaving several important key.
2. If you check Snopes ALL of these are false. If these are true what happened to the next of kin? Did Clinton killed all of them also?
3. No lawsuits against the Clinton?
4. If any of these are true Trump and his dirty Breitbart and National Enquirer and Infowars could have used them everyday during the campaign. Don't you think? But NAH! it came from this little tinker bell.
If Infowars promoted Pizzagate think what could have happened if Infowars uses these against Clinton.
Also Faux News will be broadcasting these 24 hours for the last 6 months.
DONT YOU THINK?

The bottom line your link is bogus.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's actually the 4th that protects him and every other person in this country.

Of course, the government tramples all over that Amendment and most of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

What about the 4th protects a person from somebody with subpoena power?

radical right does not understand how warrants work. That is all.

I think the question is what does probable cause require

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

Mueller doesn't have it.

He has Donald Jr's. e-mails.

 

[bripat9643]

What about the 4th protects a person from somebody with subpoena power?

radical right does not understand how warrants work. That is all.

I think the question is what does probable cause require

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

Mueller doesn't have it.

He has Donald Jr's. e-mails.

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

 

[Wry Catcher]

radical right does not understand how warrants work. That is all.

I think the question is what does probable cause require

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

Mueller doesn't have it.

He has Donald Jr's. e-mails.

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

Thank you Mr. self appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Let me say with all respect to your bogus robe, you're in a hole, stop digging.

Consider this:

Internal Revenue Manual - 11.3.35 Requests and Demands for Testimony and Production of Documents

 

[Rustic]

I'm including on this thread the letter that appointed Muller as special counsel and the scope of Mueller directives stated in that letter.....mindful that Rosenstein IS a Trump appointee.....

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf

Na, trumps finances are none of the federal government business, as with everybody.

 

[bripat9643]

I think the question is what does probable cause require

Q. what does probable cause require

A. "sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.

Legal Dictionary - Law.com

Mueller doesn't have it.

He has Donald Jr's. e-mails.

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

Thank you Mr. self appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Let me say with all respect to your bogus robe, you're in a hole, stop digging.

Consider this:

Internal Revenue Manual - 11.3.35 Requests and Demands for Testimony and Production of Documents

What do you imagine that proves?

 

[charwin95]

I've got a better question. Why hasn't there been a special investigation into the Clinton Foundation Money Laundering Scheme which has never had a single audit and has been protected by the very agencies / people who should have called for an investigation! What I see is a diversion being led by the very people who have a history of protecting criminals while accusing the innocent!

It isn't as if there isn't a money trail to follow. The last known words from Seth Rich was .....follow the money! Considering that Haiti publicly outed Clinton Foundation as robbing the poorest of their poor of over 1 billion dollars in money donations allocated to them, I'd say it is high time we get to the bottom of this. Why are we allowing these people to falsely accuse the very man who is capable of exposing the real corruption and putting them all on trial!

What does the Clinton foundation have to do with Trump? Hopefully the trump foundation will also be investigated.

Everything. The wrong person is being investigated. It should be Hillary Clinton and her husband. This is nothing more than a diversion to keep the spotlight off the real criminals. The same ones that President Trump said he would go after once elected. The American people are not stupid. We see what is going on here.
How the Clinton Foundation Got Rich off Poor Haitians
WikiLeaks: Clinton Fdn Funds Used to Pay for Chelsea's Wedding, Aide Says
"Clinton Foundation Is Charity Fraud Of Epic Proportions", Analyst Charges In Stunning Takedown | Zero Hedge
The Mysterious Disappearance of Former Clinton Foundation CEO Eric Braverman | The Stream

The problem with your links Zero Hedge, Stream.org, National Review ------- Promote conspiracy and alt right bias media.

Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

The Stream - Media Bias/Fact Check

National Review - Media Bias/Fact Check

 

[Darkwind]

I'm including on this thread the letter that appointed Muller as special counsel and the scope of Mueller directives stated in that letter.....mindful that Rosenstein IS a Trump appointee.....

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726381/Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.pdf

Has he consulted with Rosenstein to expand the investigation further? In the letter Rosenstein penned to start the Special Investigator:

Rod Rosenstein’s Letter Appointing Mueller Special Counsel

According to the Acting Attorney General, Mueller must follow 28 CFR 600.4 and in that regulations subsection b specifically states:

(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.

 

[bripat9643]

I've got a better question. Why hasn't there been a special investigation into the Clinton Foundation Money Laundering Scheme which has never had a single audit and has been protected by the very agencies / people who should have called for an investigation! What I see is a diversion being led by the very people who have a history of protecting criminals while accusing the innocent!

It isn't as if there isn't a money trail to follow. The last known words from Seth Rich was .....follow the money! Considering that Haiti publicly outed Clinton Foundation as robbing the poorest of their poor of over 1 billion dollars in money donations allocated to them, I'd say it is high time we get to the bottom of this. Why are we allowing these people to falsely accuse the very man who is capable of exposing the real corruption and putting them all on trial!

What does the Clinton foundation have to do with Trump? Hopefully the trump foundation will also be investigated.

Everything. The wrong person is being investigated. It should be Hillary Clinton and her husband. This is nothing more than a diversion to keep the spotlight off the real criminals. The same ones that President Trump said he would go after once elected. The American people are not stupid. We see what is going on here.
How the Clinton Foundation Got Rich off Poor Haitians
WikiLeaks: Clinton Fdn Funds Used to Pay for Chelsea's Wedding, Aide Says
"Clinton Foundation Is Charity Fraud Of Epic Proportions", Analyst Charges In Stunning Takedown | Zero Hedge
The Mysterious Disappearance of Former Clinton Foundation CEO Eric Braverman | The Stream

The problem with your links Zero Hedge, Stream.org, National Review ------- Promote conspiracy and alt right bias media.

Zero Hedge - Media Bias/Fact Check

The Stream - Media Bias/Fact Check

National Review - Media Bias/Fact Check

ROFL! No one who uses CNN or NYT as sources is in any position to be attacking rightwing sources. The later have proven to be far more credible than the former.