Moonglow
Diamond Member
You can blame the anti-alcohol crowd for income taxes, when they were going to institute prohibition the govt. needed a source of revenue to replace the 90% loss of taxes that booze provided to the US govt...
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Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?Should paying taxes be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc
Nuts.
Just plain nuts
No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process
Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?Should paying taxes be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc
Nuts.
Just plain nuts
No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process
Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare
Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?Should paying taxes be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc
Nuts.
Just plain nuts
No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process
Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare
yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?Should paying taxes be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc
Nuts.
Just plain nuts
No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process
Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare
Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people and giving the money to them like any other welfare program
yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process
Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare
Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people and giving the money to them like any other welfare program
What's even more astounding is,,,,the income tax amendment never passed.....But they made people pay income taxes anyway..Income tax is a violation of Article I, Section 2 and Section 9
If you purchase something you must pay a tax, which would make all consumers eligible...
I left out, of the proportional amendment...What's even more astounding is,,,,the income tax amendment never passed.....But they made people pay income taxes anyway..Income tax is a violation of Article I, Section 2 and Section 9
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Should paying Income taxes, either at the state or Federal be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc
Seniors who paid in their entire lives would, of course, be eligible to vote
Nuts.
Just plain nuts
To me a tax is a tax..If you purchase something you must pay a tax, which would make all consumers eligible...
You pay a sales tax, not an income tax.
I don't trust brokers, even though dear old Dad was one..yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?
Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare
Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people and giving the money to them like any other welfare program
Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?
We've been going downhill ever since we let anyone but white land owning (and sometimes slave owning) men vote.Should paying Income taxes, either at the state or Federal be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc
Seniors who paid in their entire lives would, of course, be eligible to vote
Nuts.
Just plain nuts
I don't trust brokers, even though dear old Dad was one..yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare
Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people and giving the money to them like any other welfare program
Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?
That social security is not welfare..I don't trust brokers, even though dear old Dad was one..yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...
Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people and giving the money to them like any other welfare program
Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?
So what's the answer to the question?
Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?That social security is not welfare..I don't trust brokers, even though dear old Dad was one..yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people and giving the money to them like any other welfare program
Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?
So what's the answer to the question?
Depends which vehicle it fuels..Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?That social security is not welfare..I don't trust brokers, even though dear old Dad was one..yeah, I can see how paying for 40 years is theft..
Paying for 40 years is irrelevant when zero money was saved. You send your broker $100 a week for 40 years. Your broker spends the money as it comes in. How much money do you have in 40 years?
So what's the answer to the question?
Tax the churches and every statue they have, tax it as a dependentTo me it isn't paying taxes that is the issue, its public sector unions and the undue influence they have on the governments that their members work in.
Public employees should get a choice, keep your union and lose your vote at the level of government you work in, or lose your union and keep your vote.