Should paying taxes be a requirement to vote?

[NYcarbineer]

Should paying taxes be a requirement to vote? It's like letting people who don't own stock, vote on company activities, compensation, policies, etc

Nuts.

Just plain nuts

No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process

Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

 

[martybegan]

To me it isn't paying taxes that is the issue, its public sector unions and the undue influence they have on the governments that their members work in.

Public employees should get a choice, keep your union and lose your vote at the level of government you work in, or lose your union and keep your vote.

Tax the churches and every statue they have, tax it as a dependent

No.

 

[martybegan]

No, you should not have to pay taxes, but you shouldn't be getting a check of other people's money. That's a clear conflict of interest, the opportunity to vote yourself money. But I see no reason someone self sufficient who doesn't take government money or give government money should be cut out of the process

Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

 

[Moonglow]

Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

 

[Steven_R]

So let's give everyone one vote and the more taxes one pays, the more one's vote counts. Pay ten times the baseline tax rate, that vote counts ten times as much. Everyone has skin in the game, but the people footing the bill get more than just to be vilified for not paying their "fair share".​

 

[NYcarbineer]

Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

Yeah, so what? It's called investing.

 

[Steven_R]

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Except it's not. We're just replacing one IOU with another.

 

[martybegan]

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Not really.

 

[Moonglow]

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Except it's not. We're just replacing one IOU with another.

And as long as the bill is paid....that is what matters...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Many seniors pay no income taxes....Yet they never get a govt. check for welfare..You want to alienate them also?

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

That money was loaned to the federal government.

 

[martybegan]

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

Yeah, so what? It's called investing.

Not really. How is the government adding to the principal borrowed?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Not really.

It's the safest investment in the world.

 

[Moonglow]

So you people want to disenfranchise voters cause you feel things would be better....okay..

 

[martybegan]

Of course they get welfare checks, social security and medicare

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

That money was loaned to the federal government.

And how will the feds pay the bill?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

Yeah, so what? It's called investing.

Not really. How is the government adding to the principal borrowed?

By paying interest.

 

[martybegan]

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Not really.

It's the safest investment in the world.

it's not really an investment.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Social security is not welfare...Medicare is paid through a monthly payment by the seniors...

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

That money was loaned to the federal government.

And how will the feds pay the bill?

The same as they pay every bill.

 

[Steven_R]

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Except it's not. We're just replacing one IOU with another.

And as long as the bill is paid....that is what matters...

The bill isn't being paid. This is no different than using your Visa card to pay your MasterCard off.

 

[Steven_R]

Of course it's welfare. The government didn't save a dime. It's just taking other people's money and giving the money to them like any other welfare program

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

That money was loaned to the federal government.

And how will the feds pay the bill?

The same as they pay every bill.

With rubber checks?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Social Security has always been funded by contributors.

and that funding has been taken by the Feds for the general fund, and replaced with "IOU's"
that can only be repaid via the general fund.

As long as the debt is paid...just like at an investment firm..

Not really.

It's the safest investment in the world.

it's not really an investment.

You buy a bond and it pays you interest and when it matures you get your principal back or you reinvest it.

Are you saying that's not an investment?