Should the United States have borders?

[Mac1958]

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Just curious. I'm seeing a lot of posts (including on places like Facebook) that refer to the fact that the original settlers were "illegal aliens" and similar themes. Plus, we stole land from Mexico 'n stuff.

Okay. As we all know, there were no borders or laws back then. So these people (seems like they're pretty consistently from one end of the political spectrum) may be inferring that we should not have borders. They're very quick to want people to come into this country freely, maybe we can get it on the record here.

Comments would be appreciated. And it will be fascinating to see which of the usual suspects choose not to vote or comment.

Should the United States have borders, yes or no?

I'll vote "yes", 'cause I'm a big racist and roads and bridges 'n stuff.

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[Freewill]

We will always have borders, how else are we going to know who to tax?

Maybe you mean borders like states where a person in Ohio can work in Pa and crosses the border freely.

If that truly what was going on then I say open borders would be OK.

But to not have borders and have Mexico and Central America dumping their prisons, mental hospitals, children and unemployment lines into America is unsustainable, in my opinion. Besides the chance that terrorists can use the same route.

So I vote yes. Even though immigration rules have changed over the years we have ALWAYS have had borders. It is just a matter of if we want to control access across that border.

 

[Mac1958]

We will always have borders, how else are we going to know who to tax?

You just document them as they stroll on by, give 'em a social security number and start taxing them.

I kept the question open on purpose, just want to see how many people will be honest.

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

Should the United States have borders?

The problem is not just what's occurring on the border with Mexico, but the wide-spread, comprehensive ignorance of immigration law in particular and Constitutional law in general by so many Americans – the OP being one such example.

 

[Mac1958]

Should the United States have borders?

The problem is not just what's occurring on the border with Mexico, but the wide-spread, comprehensive ignorance of immigration law in particular and Constitutional law in general by so many Americans – the OP being one such example.

Were you going to answer the question?

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[Mac1958]

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There are a lot of smart people here.

A clear answer with some thoughtful specifics that make positions obvious shouldn't be that tough.

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[eagle1462010]

Should the United States have borders?

The problem is not just what's occurring on the border with Mexico, but the wide-spread, comprehensive ignorance of immigration law in particular and Constitutional law in general by so many Americans – the OP being one such example.

The problem is those who don't understand illegal.............

 

[Desperado]

Should the United States have borders?
Of course it should and it should protect those borders.
If the United States did not have borders it would cease to be the United States.

 

[zeke]

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There are a lot of smart people here.

A clear answer with some thoughtful specifics that make positions obvious shouldn't be that tough.

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LMAO. There are? Where are they? Surely you are not including yourself in that statement. Especially when you are asking the ignorant question of; should the USA have borders?

Really dude, you couldn't come up with anything better in the middle of the night. Good god.

 

[LoneLaugher]

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There are a lot of smart people here.

A clear answer with some thoughtful specifics that make positions obvious shouldn't be that tough.

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Well, in spite of the fact that you already seem to know who will say what....or nothing....in response to your OP......and forgiving your usually snide, dismissive tone.....I will answer.

Yes. We should have borders. I like them just where they are, for now. The fact that our ancestors ( well....not mine....they came from Italy and Ireland much later ) just hitched tents and called this land home has nothing to do with modern geo-political boundaries. It is, however, a fact that deserves to be remembered.

It would not be desireable for said borders to be used to keep people in as much as to keep them out. Therefore, militarizing borders is not something that "the usuall suspects" find appealing.

Also...do us a favor and refrain from lumping those on my "end of the spectrum" together with those corporate concerns who are ACTUALLY FIGHTING TO ERASE OUR BORDERS for cheap labor.

Earmuffs!

 

[Freewill]

Should the United States have borders?

The problem is not just what's occurring on the border with Mexico, but the wide-spread, comprehensive ignorance of immigration law in particular and Constitutional law in general by so many Americans – the OP being one such example.

Were you going to answer the question?

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He did, he is speaking in tongues, you just have the faith to understand.

 

[LoneLaugher]

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There are a lot of smart people here.

A clear answer with some thoughtful specifics that make positions obvious shouldn't be that tough.

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LMAO. There are? Where are they? Surely you are not including yourself in that statement. Especially when you are asking the ignorant question of; should the USA have borders?

Really dude, you couldn't come up with anything better in the middle of the night. Good god.

You know what didn't happen? The erudite OP did not wax poetic on his reasons for wanting borders. Not did he establish that anyone....in particular....here or elswhere...desires dissolving our borders. Instead, he waxed snark...used the race card and took a jab at his President. Wonder why?

Earmuffs.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The problem is not just what's occurring on the border with Mexico, but the wide-spread, comprehensive ignorance of immigration law in particular and Constitutional law in general by so many Americans – the OP being one such example.

Were you going to answer the question?

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He did, he is speaking in tongues, you just have the faith to understand.

Awwwww....how cute.

 

[Mac1958]

The problem is not just what's occurring on the border with Mexico, but the wide-spread, comprehensive ignorance of immigration law in particular and Constitutional law in general by so many Americans – the OP being one such example.

Were you going to answer the question?

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He did, he is speaking in tongues, you just have the faith to understand.

It may be that they don't really want to fully answer such a direct and clear question.

Interesting, ain't it?

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[Freewill]

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There are a lot of smart people here.

A clear answer with some thoughtful specifics that make positions obvious shouldn't be that tough.

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LMAO. There are? Where are they? Surely you are not including yourself in that statement. Especially when you are asking the ignorant question of; should the USA have borders?

Really dude, you couldn't come up with anything better in the middle of the night. Good god.

You know what didn't happen? The erudite OP did not wax poetic on his reasons for wanting borders. Not did he establish that anyone....in particular....here or elswhere...desires dissolving our borders. Instead, he waxed snark...used the race card and took a jab at his President. Wonder why?

Earmuffs.

Earmuffs, yet you posted twice?

I have read the OP a couple times, I do not see a jab at Obama, could you cite the chapter and verse? Thanks.

 

[Mac1958]

LMAO. There are? Where are they? Surely you are not including yourself in that statement. Especially when you are asking the ignorant question of; should the USA have borders?

Really dude, you couldn't come up with anything better in the middle of the night. Good god.

You know what didn't happen? The erudite OP did not wax poetic on his reasons for wanting borders. Not did he establish that anyone....in particular....here or elswhere...desires dissolving our borders. Instead, he waxed snark...used the race card and took a jab at his President. Wonder why?

Earmuffs.

Earmuffs, yet you posted twice?

I have read the OP a couple times, I do not see a jab at Obama, could you cite the chapter and verse? Thanks.

My little stalker friend did as expected: Divert.

A fun little exercise here.

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[Freewill]

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There are a lot of smart people here.

A clear answer with some thoughtful specifics that make positions obvious shouldn't be that tough.

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Well, in spite of the fact that you already seem to know who will say what....or nothing....in response to your OP......and forgiving your usually snide, dismissive tone.....I will answer.

Yes. We should have borders. I like them just where they are, for now. The fact that our ancestors ( well....not mine....they came from Italy and Ireland much later ) just hitched tents and called this land home has nothing to do with modern geo-political boundaries. It is, however, a fact that deserves to be remembered.

It would not be desireable for said borders to be used to keep people in as much as to keep them out. Therefore, militarizing borders is not something that "the usuall suspects" find appealing.

Also...do us a favor and refrain from lumping those on my "end of the spectrum" together with those corporate concerns who are ACTUALLY FIGHTING TO ERASE OUR BORDERS for cheap labor.

Earmuffs!

Wow we actually agree on something. The only logical reason for open borders is to get lettuce picked on the cheap. And who is pushing the open borders and call the immigrants our future? You got it, Obama and the democrats want those sparks just flooding our country.

 

[Freewill]

Were you going to answer the question?

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He did, he is speaking in tongues, you just have the faith to understand.

It may be that they don't really want to fully answer such a direct and clear question.

Interesting, ain't it?

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I will admit, your question is kinda like asking if men should wear pants.

 

[Mac1958]

He did, he is speaking in tongues, you just have the faith to understand.

It may be that they don't really want to fully answer such a direct and clear question.

Interesting, ain't it?

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I will admit, your question is kinda like asking if men should wear pants.

Look at the reasoning for the question.

Look at the non-answers, non-opinions so far.

About what I figured, I wasn't expecting a Eureka! moment.

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[Taz]

Without borders (or bad ones), we'd be like the Arabs fighting in the desert among themselves to carve out a piece of land for their own kind.