Since we have plenty of blue states why can't some states opt out from taking refugees ?

[theDoctorisIn]

States are not "sovereign", and they have absolutely no power to decide who can or cannot live within them.

That is simply ignorance on your part.

The Tenth Amendment is fairly similar to an earlier provision outlined in the Articles of Confederation which stated that each individual state shall retain sovereignty, independence, freedom, while possessing every power, right, and jurisdiction that is not expressly delegated to the greater governing body of the United States.
10th Amendment - constitution | Laws.com

Texas' Sovereign Immunity - Coalition of Texans with Disabilities
What is sovereign immunity?
"Sovereign immunity" is a legal doctrine that says a state may claim an exemption from compliance with a federal law.

This constitutional argument can be used in a court of law to maintain that the United States Congress overstepped its authority by trying to enforce federal laws at the state level. This is a states' rights argument.

Sovereign Immunity in Texas
Currently, the State of Texas claims sovereign immunity in cases involving the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), a landmark federal law guaranteeing full civil rights to people with disabilities. This argument has successfully prevented persons claiming discrimination based on disability from having their day in court.

As Attorney General, Greg Abbott contended that the State has immunity from its violations acts of the ADA. Private businesses, Texas cities and counties and even federal actions within Texas are all subject to the ADA. In other words, he does not mean that the ADA doesn't apply in Texas. Rather, a person who wants to sue the State on grounds of discrimination because of disability could have their case dismissed in a court of law. View a list of cases in which the sovereign immunity defense was used (source: Dallas Morning News).

A precedent has been set for this practice. When he was Texas' Attorney General, Abbott went to court to declare that Texas has sovereign immunity from the ADA. Abbott claimed he personally supports the ADA and was only doing his job as an attorney defending his client, the State of Texas. However, though no longer Attorney General, Abbott has stated that, as Governor, he will not support legislation to waive Texas' sovereign immunity from the ADA (source: Texas Disability Issues Forum candidate questionnaire). Current Attorney General Ken Paxton has not publicly stated his position on this issue.

You can cut-and-paste whatever nonsense you like, it's not going to change the facts.

States have no power to control who lives within their borders. Massachusetts can't prevent Mormons from moving in, Texas can't prevent Canadians from moving in, and no state can prevent legal permanent residents (refugees) from moving in either.

 

[JimBowie1958]

But hey it is ok for states like Colorado to break federal law on weed?

What a hypocrite

States sovereign rights have taken some big hits since FDR, but the 10th Amendment still is part of the Constitution, even if libtards wish it otherwise.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

No governors have broken the law, as far as I know - they've just lied to their constituents.

Can you prove that, or is wishing passing for analysis these days?

Any governor who has said "I will prevent refugees from moving in" is lying, because they are not capable of preventing it. It's not complicated.

 

[Sallow]

Send them to New York, Boston, Seattle, SanFrisco, Portlandia, etc.

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

 

[JimBowie1958]

States are not "sovereign", and they have absolutely no power to decide who can or cannot live within them.

That is simply ignorance on your part.

The Tenth Amendment is fairly similar to an earlier provision outlined in the Articles of Confederation which stated that each individual state shall retain sovereignty, independence, freedom, while possessing every power, right, and jurisdiction that is not expressly delegated to the greater governing body of the United States.
10th Amendment - constitution | Laws.com

Texas' Sovereign Immunity - Coalition of Texans with Disabilities
What is sovereign immunity?
"Sovereign immunity" is a legal doctrine that says a state may claim an exemption from compliance with a federal law.

This constitutional argument can be used in a court of law to maintain that the United States Congress overstepped its authority by trying to enforce federal laws at the state level. This is a states' rights argument.

Sovereign Immunity in Texas
Currently, the State of Texas claims sovereign immunity in cases involving the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), a landmark federal law guaranteeing full civil rights to people with disabilities. This argument has successfully prevented persons claiming discrimination based on disability from having their day in court.

As Attorney General, Greg Abbott contended that the State has immunity from its violations acts of the ADA. Private businesses, Texas cities and counties and even federal actions within Texas are all subject to the ADA. In other words, he does not mean that the ADA doesn't apply in Texas. Rather, a person who wants to sue the State on grounds of discrimination because of disability could have their case dismissed in a court of law. View a list of cases in which the sovereign immunity defense was used (source: Dallas Morning News).

A precedent has been set for this practice. When he was Texas' Attorney General, Abbott went to court to declare that Texas has sovereign immunity from the ADA. Abbott claimed he personally supports the ADA and was only doing his job as an attorney defending his client, the State of Texas. However, though no longer Attorney General, Abbott has stated that, as Governor, he will not support legislation to waive Texas' sovereign immunity from the ADA (source: Texas Disability Issues Forum candidate questionnaire). Current Attorney General Ken Paxton has not publicly stated his position on this issue.

You can cut-and-paste whatever nonsense you like, it's not going to change the facts.

States have no power to control who lives within their borders. Massachusetts can't prevent Mormons from moving in, Texas can't prevent Canadians from moving in, and no state can prevent legal permanent residents (refugees) from moving in either.

But states can refuse to cooperate with the feds on particular processes that they do not want or like, such as importing 4,000 ISIS terrorists into their state, for example.

You dont seem to appreciate just how much the feds depend on local states and jurisdictions to enable them to enforce federal law.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Any governor who has said "I will prevent refugees from moving in" is lying, because they are not capable of preventing it. It's not complicated.

And that is a declaration of intent, not a claim for authority, dude, and I think just about every reasonable person understands this.

 

[Sallow]

Brothers doctor lost his practice of over 25 years, because he took in a Hindu doctor as a partner.

Seems his new partner had a problem with him being a Deacon in a local church, and the biblical literature in the waiting room.

Makes no sense whatsoever. And seems made up.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

States are not "sovereign", and they have absolutely no power to decide who can or cannot live within them.

That is simply ignorance on your part.

The Tenth Amendment is fairly similar to an earlier provision outlined in the Articles of Confederation which stated that each individual state shall retain sovereignty, independence, freedom, while possessing every power, right, and jurisdiction that is not expressly delegated to the greater governing body of the United States.
10th Amendment - constitution | Laws.com

Texas' Sovereign Immunity - Coalition of Texans with Disabilities
What is sovereign immunity?
"Sovereign immunity" is a legal doctrine that says a state may claim an exemption from compliance with a federal law.

This constitutional argument can be used in a court of law to maintain that the United States Congress overstepped its authority by trying to enforce federal laws at the state level. This is a states' rights argument.

Sovereign Immunity in Texas
Currently, the State of Texas claims sovereign immunity in cases involving the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), a landmark federal law guaranteeing full civil rights to people with disabilities. This argument has successfully prevented persons claiming discrimination based on disability from having their day in court.

As Attorney General, Greg Abbott contended that the State has immunity from its violations acts of the ADA. Private businesses, Texas cities and counties and even federal actions within Texas are all subject to the ADA. In other words, he does not mean that the ADA doesn't apply in Texas. Rather, a person who wants to sue the State on grounds of discrimination because of disability could have their case dismissed in a court of law. View a list of cases in which the sovereign immunity defense was used (source: Dallas Morning News).

A precedent has been set for this practice. When he was Texas' Attorney General, Abbott went to court to declare that Texas has sovereign immunity from the ADA. Abbott claimed he personally supports the ADA and was only doing his job as an attorney defending his client, the State of Texas. However, though no longer Attorney General, Abbott has stated that, as Governor, he will not support legislation to waive Texas' sovereign immunity from the ADA (source: Texas Disability Issues Forum candidate questionnaire). Current Attorney General Ken Paxton has not publicly stated his position on this issue.

You can cut-and-paste whatever nonsense you like, it's not going to change the facts.

States have no power to control who lives within their borders. Massachusetts can't prevent Mormons from moving in, Texas can't prevent Canadians from moving in, and no state can prevent legal permanent residents (refugees) from moving in either.

But states can refuse to cooperate with the feds on particular processes that they do not want or like, such as importing 4,000 ISIS terrorists into their state, for example.

You dont seem to appreciate just how much the feds depend on local states and jurisdictions to enable them to enforce federal law.

Exactly what "cooperation" from a state do you believe is required to resettle refugees?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

Great then send them to New York where they will blend in to do some more 9-11 shit.

You libtards are so fucking stupid, it is unbelievable.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Send them to New York, Boston, Seattle, SanFrisco, Portlandia, etc.

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

I realize they can move freely once they are citizens, but if they start out where they're wanted they're more likely to stay.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Exactly what "cooperation" from a state do you believe is required to resettle refugees?

Well, I confess I havent read up on the issue in any detail yet, but I would imagine that there are logistical resources and law enforcement resources that the states can refuse to grant if the Feds bring the little bastards in.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

A majority of the citizenry doesn't want it. Period.

You've polled every single American since Saturday? You've been busy. But you missed a few.

Back in Sept, Rassmussen poll showed majority don't want 'em. Gotta be even higher majority now.

Majority of what? The first hundred people who don't have Caller ID and don't know enough not to answer the phone at dinner time?

Or the asshole governors who are either just posturing or are ignorant of the law?

FindLaw's United States Supreme Court case and opinions.

Well if you're not going to believe in the accuracy of polls, then there's no use in discussing it any further.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

Great then send them to New York where they will blend in to do some more 9-11 shit.

You libtards are so fucking stupid, it is unbelievable.

There are already a few hundred thousand Syrians living in New York. Along with hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Palestinians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Iranians, and so on.

Excuse us for not shitting our pants in fear like you flyover country guys.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

Great then send them to New York where they will blend in to do some more 9-11 shit.

You libtards are so fucking stupid, it is unbelievable.

There are already a few hundred thousand Syrians living in New York. Along with hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Palestinians, Iranians, and so on.

Excuse us for not shitting our pants in fear like you flyover country guys.

Glad you're happy with them. Please continue to encourage them to stay put.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

Great then send them to New York where they will blend in to do some more 9-11 shit.

You libtards are so fucking stupid, it is unbelievable.

There are already a few hundred thousand Syrians living in New York. Along with hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Palestinians, Iranians, and so on.

Excuse us for not shitting our pants in fear like you flyover country guys.

Glad you're happy with them. Please continue to encourage them to stay put.

Damn right I'm happy with them. There's a Syrian restaurant on Coney Island Avenue that makes some of the best kabobs and falafel I've ever had.

 

[Auld Phart]

Brothers doctor lost his practice of over 25 years, because he took in a Hindu doctor as a partner.

Seems his new partner had a problem with him being a Deacon in a local church, and the biblical literature in the waiting room.

Makes no sense whatsoever. And seems made up.

Just when I thought your were lucky to have 2 brain cells, you prove I overestimated you.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There are already a few hundred thousand Syrians living in New York. Along with hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Palestinians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Iranians, and so on.

Excuse us for not shitting our pants in fear like you flyover country guys.

And how many thousands of New Yorkers have died in Muslim terrorist attacks in the last twenty years? That isnt bravery dude, that is stupidity and lack of concern for the safety of the citizens that already live there.

And of course the main reason it happened at all; cheap labor for corporations.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

There are already a few hundred thousand Syrians living in New York. Along with hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Palestinians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Iranians, and so on.

Excuse us for not shitting our pants in fear like you flyover country guys.

And how many thousands of New Yorkers have died in Muslim terrorist attacks in the last twenty years? That isnt bravery dude, that is stupidity and lack of concern for the safety of the citizens that already live there.

And of course the main reason it happened at all; cheap labor for corporations.

There's nothing more hilarious to me than when clowns from flyover country try to lecture me about 9/11.

I was pulling people out of the rubble at ground zero while you were watching it on TV.

You can go fuck yourself now.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Damn right I'm happy with them. There's a Syrian restaurant on Coney Island Avenue that makes some of the best kabobs and falafel I've ever had.

And for your belly's sake you will bring in a population that is estimated to be about 15% sympathetic to Jihadism and is 80% in favor of Sharia law?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Don't have any problem with them coming to NYC. We are multicultural and proud of it.

However? Once they come here and gain citizenship, they are free to travel and settle anywhere.

So your point is pretty ridiculous.

Great then send them to New York where they will blend in to do some more 9-11 shit.

You libtards are so fucking stupid, it is unbelievable.

There are already a few hundred thousand Syrians living in New York. Along with hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Palestinians, Iranians, and so on.

Excuse us for not shitting our pants in fear like you flyover country guys.

Glad you're happy with them. Please continue to encourage them to stay put.

Damn right I'm happy with them. There's a Syrian restaurant on Coney Island Avenue that makes some of the best kabobs and falafel I've ever had.

Excellent. If any get dumped here, I'll recommend they head your way.