So, did this Gestapo tactic protect us?

[progressive hunter]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

 

[Brain357]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

Isn’t everyone following the trump guidelines for reopening?

 

[bodecea]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

that's what pandemics do....

even with no lockdowns to try to save lives or postpone deaths....

do you think with people dropping like flies, the economy would be all hunky dory, if left opened? HELL NO! It was doomed, shuttering or not!

That's what you don't seem to get....

so if was doomed no matter what then it needs to be reopened,,,

so reducing immediate deaths doesn't count as a plus in your head?

keeping hospitals in tact is not a plus either?

sigh....

Remember...what they really meant to say is NO Lives Matter.

 

[bodecea]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Are you predicting that happening here? The Fields are still open, the grocery stores are still open....unlike lazy whiners protesting, those running the food supply are working their butts off.

 

[Crick]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

Now that we have more cases, we should start reopening? You do realize that was never how the guidelines - Trump's guidelines - worked. When the number of cases start falling, when you've passed your peak for 14 days, THEN you can very slowly begin to reopen.

 

[Coyote]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Truman socialized the railroads temporarily when a continued strike threatened the nation.

We can socialize the food industry temporarily if needed.

If only we had leadership in this time of crisis....

Too bad we don't.

even socialized its still not running,,,

and lets not forget the fact that when a socialist government takes over the food industry it results in millions of deaths,,,

Not really. The food supply in the Soviet Union was far better under Stalin than it had ever been. But you don't know anyone that lived in the Soviet Union at that time, do you?

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY

Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

www.history.com

You really are clueless

Communists usually are. They would really prefer a Stalin or a Mao.

False Equivalence
Description: An argument or claim in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. The confusion is often due to one shared characteristic between two or more items of comparison in the argument that is way off in the order of magnitude, oversimplified, or just that important additional factors have been ignored.

 

[Coyote]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

 

[Coyote]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

Now that we have more cases, we should start reopening? You do realize that was never how the guidelines - Trump's guidelines - worked. When the number of cases start falling, when you've passed your peak for 14 days, THEN you can very slowly begin to reopen.

IMO - there are guidelines suggested to determine when to reopen for different areas. You can't determine it by the US as a whole - it will need to be regional and there will need to be broad testing readily available.

 

[Coyote]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

Isn’t everyone following the trump guidelines for reopening?

Apparently not...

 

[Mac1958]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

The idea all along was to open as fully and quickly as possible. Of course. The problem is, as with everything else, it has become hyper-politicized, no one can agree on what a freaking FACT is, and no one can communicate outside of their tribe without losing their shit.

Self inflicted wound, as always.

 

[Manonthestreet]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

They can't protect people in a closed controlled situation like a nursing home, so how the hell are they going to protect people in a fluid one, answer, they cant

 

[Coyote]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

The idea all along was to open as fully and quickly as possible. Of course. The problem is, as with everything else, it has become hyper-politicized and no one can agree on what a freaking FACT is, and no one can communicate outside of their tribe without losing their shit.

Self inflicted wound, as always.

This is particularly mind blowing for me - we used, regardless of political sides - agree on FACTS. We just disagreed on how to interpret them, or what policies revolve around them but facts were facts. We now live in the world of alternative facts and we're paying for it

 

[Mac1958]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

The idea all along was to open as fully and quickly as possible. Of course. The problem is, as with everything else, it has become hyper-politicized and no one can agree on what a freaking FACT is, and no one can communicate outside of their tribe without losing their shit.

Self inflicted wound, as always.

This is particularly mind blowing for me - we used, regardless of political sides - agree on FACTS. We just disagreed on how to interpret them, or what policies revolve around them but facts were facts. We now live in the world of alternative facts and we're paying for it

Yep. Not sure how a republic is supposed to survive when operating in at least two different realities, but hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Coyote]

jm

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

The idea all along was to open as fully and quickly as possible. Of course. The problem is, as with everything else, it has become hyper-politicized and no one can agree on what a freaking FACT is, and no one can communicate outside of their tribe without losing their shit.

Self inflicted wound, as always.

This is particularly mind blowing for me - we used, regardless of political sides - agree on FACTS. We just disagreed on how to interpret them, or what policies revolve around them but facts were facts. We now live in the world of alternative facts and we're paying for it

Yep. Not sure how a republic is supposed to survive when operating in at least two different realities, but hopefully I'm wrong.

I've never encountered it before the Era of Trump - not to this degree where conspiracy theories are actively pedaled and retweeted, and policies are created to support them.

 

[sartre play]

Try this one on.
they want to test if reopening business to save the economy works.
So is the White House open to visit? are state capital buildings open? city court houses? Mayors offices ? OH I see they want US too test it, while they stay safe.

 

[progressive hunter]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Are you predicting that happening here? The Fields are still open, the grocery stores are still open....unlike lazy whiners protesting, those running the food supply are working their butts off.

didnt you hear that all the meat processing plants are closed or about to close???

and didnt you also know everything is OK right before its not,???

 

[progressive hunter]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

correct,,,but remember we are a free country and they cant force us to stay closed if we dont want to,,,which is the whole point of the thread,,,

 

[Coyote]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

correct,,,but remember we are a free country and they cant force us to stay closed if we dont want to,,,which is the whole point of the thread,,,

Yes, they can. This isn't the first quarantine our country has had...

Kelowna, B.C., Des Moines Iowa, Mobile Alabama, were among the cities that ordered shut downs of business', closure of public places and events, restaurants, schools, and banning public gatherings during the 1918 Spanish Flu.

 

[progressive hunter]

And we have a President who has supported them, just yesterday calling this a "horrible plague".

Looks like a huge conspiracy to me.

Not a conspiracy just a huge fuck you to the American people based on fear and the fact that this shit has ZERO impact on politicians. Take away their pay/job and give them a few bucks to survive off of for a couple months. We'd see a different tune then.

I read a recent article by a couple of doctors (maybe I can find it) but the basic thing was they said that the initial lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do because we did not know what we are dealing with. Now, as time goes on, and we have more cases, more data - we can and should start reopening. That makes sense to me.

THANK YOU!!

thats what we've been saying,,,but the leftist turds keep hammering us for it and saying we need to stay locked down,,

I think most of the left are actually saying kind of what I think you, Trump, and most of the governors, and others are saying - we reopen with a set of guidelines to meet, and different areas reopen at different times depending on the conditions they meet. No one size fits all.

correct,,,but remember we are a free country and they cant force us to stay closed if we dont want to,,,which is the whole point of the thread,,,

Yes, they can. This isn't the first quarantine our country has had...

Kelowna, B.C., Des Moines Iowa, Mobile Alabama, were among the cities that ordered shut downs of business', closure of public places and events, restaurants, schools, and banning public gatherings during the 1918 Spanish Flu.

just because they got away with it doesnt make it right,,,not to mention if some decide to file a law suit and fight it,,,

 

[Crick]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

I'm just an observer on the side, but I'm still waiting to hear some evidence that supports your claim that millions will suffer and die from the lockdown. And you need not demonstrate millions. Show us some evidence that more people will die from the lockdown than will die from the virus is the lockdown is lifted.