So, did this Gestapo tactic protect us?

[Billy_Bob]

so reducing immediate deaths doesn't count as a plus in your head?

keeping hospitals in tact is not a plus either?

Those who die from contracting this will die today or tomorrow when they contract it. We now have treatments that can save most people if they are started early in the infection process and not after the immune system goes into chaos.

Its time to get on with life.

The lockdown has served well to keep the number of hospitalizations relatively low. That allows for better treatment, reduced fatalities and time to develop a vaccine.

Relatively speaking, we are winning this war...why change tactics when your winning?

Because the cure is now becoming worse than the virus.. Suicides, Loss of homes, loss of families, poverty all have costs in lives lost. Suicide rates have jumped x3 in the last two weeks. These are preventable deaths of the young and those who are not affected by the virus to any real extent. We also now have treatments that work and increased hospital capacity to deal with larger numbers of patients who are ill needing intervention.

Its time to change game plans to save lives in both areas becasue WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND CAN DO IT!..

 

[Seawytch]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Truman socialized the railroads temporarily when a continued strike threatened the nation.

We can socialize the food industry temporarily if needed.

If only we had leadership in this time of crisis....

Too bad we don't.

even socialized its still not running,,,

and lets not forget the fact that when a socialist government takes over the food industry it results in millions of deaths,,,

It's so weird...you keep saying "this will cause millions of deaths" or "that will cause millions of deaths", but you have yet to provide proof of your claims.

 

[bodecea]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

Open up your business, your home. Dump social distancing for you and yours. Go right ahead.

 

[Rambunctious]

Don't worry Trumpbots!

Not worried you Obama ass sucker....

 

[bodecea]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

How does someone like her get elected?.....

As opposed to republican dolts? Intelligent voters.

 

[progressive hunter]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Truman socialized the railroads temporarily when a continued strike threatened the nation.

We can socialize the food industry temporarily if needed.

If only we had leadership in this time of crisis....

Too bad we don't.

even socialized its still not running,,,

and lets not forget the fact that when a socialist government takes over the food industry it results in millions of deaths,,,

It's so weird...you keep saying "this will cause millions of deaths" or "that will cause millions of deaths", but you have yet to provide proof of your claims.

if you read my full comment instead of editing it you would know your answer,,,

 

[bodecea]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

How does someone like her get elected?.....

Cult devotion...

Certainly looks like it....have you had your bleach dose today?

 

[mdk]

Yeah, I had family members murdered and disappeared by the Geheime Staatspolizei in Germany and Poland, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't find the comparison apt.

 

[bodecea]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Millions are going to die from the results of the lockdown? How so?

asked and answered,,,do try and keep up,,,

Nope....you have yet to say what millions will die from.

 

[Seawytch]

so reducing immediate deaths doesn't count as a plus in your head?

keeping hospitals in tact is not a plus either?

Those who die from contracting this will die today or tomorrow when they contract it. We now have treatments that can save most people if they are started early in the infection process and not after the immune system goes into chaos.

Its time to get on with life.

The lockdown has served well to keep the number of hospitalizations relatively low. That allows for better treatment, reduced fatalities and time to develop a vaccine.

Relatively speaking, we are winning this war...why change tactics when your winning?

Because the cure is now becoming worse than the virus.. Suicides, Loss of homes, loss of families, poverty all have costs in lives lost. Suicide rates have jumped x3 in the last two weeks. These are preventable deaths of the young and those who are not affected by the virus to any real extent. We also now have treatments that work and increased hospital capacity to deal with larger numbers of patients who are ill needing intervention.

Its time to change game plans to save lives in both areas becasue WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND CAN DO IT!..

No, the "cure" is not still worse than the virus. This is a virus that has killed 200,000 people in a matter of weeks worldwide. Lift restrictions too soon and you will see overtaxed health systems.

 

[Rambunctious]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

How does someone like her get elected?.....

As opposed to republican dolts? Intelligent voters.

Smart people don't vote for people like her unless they have been frightened into it.....that is why the dems always want to scare you libtards....oh my global warming we are all gonna die vote for pelosi....buuuuaaaaaahahahahahaha

 

[Indeependent]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Truman socialized the railroads temporarily when a continued strike threatened the nation.

We can socialize the food industry temporarily if needed.

If only we had leadership in this time of crisis....

Too bad we don't.

even socialized its still not running,,,

and lets not forget the fact that when a socialist government takes over the food industry it results in millions of deaths,,,

Not really. The food supply in the Soviet Union was far better under Stalin than it had ever been. But you don't know anyone that lived in the Soviet Union at that time, do you?

yeah thats why millions of people died after he took over,,,

Millions were dying from starvation before Stalin nationalized the food industry.

not according to historical facts,,,

Can we chip and send this psycho back to Russia?
The only problem is that he's probably on the "Don't Take Him Back" list.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

Open up your business, your home. Dump social distancing for you and yours. Go right ahead.

I made no such statement. Quit lying about what I say.

There are reasonable things we can do. I can open a buisness and keep my clientel safe. You can keep hiding under your bed... Feel free..

 

[Care4all]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

exactly HOW is she trying to inflict damage?? huh? she has no control of CDC Health Guidelines nor does she have control over States and their shut downs....

Y'all are grasping for straws for simply political posturing and someone else to blame.... shameful!!!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

lockdowns were not meant to stop the virus deaths, but to flatten the directly upward curve, so that the deaths all at once did not overwhelm our hospitals and healthcare system to the point of collapse.... Don't you remember?

And we've accomplished that. In most places, the hospitals never came close to capacity.

states hit with the virus were maxed out.... if not for orders to increase hospital beds by 50%, and they are seriously maxed out in rural communities hit with the spread.... watch what the doctors and nurses are reporting from all different parts of the nation! It's extremely sad, and very very very hard on all of those front liners.... where the virus has sown its seed....

regardless, the economy was going to crash! We had 53000 deaths from COVID in the past 4 weeks.... (50,000 deaths in VietNam over a 10 year period and Americans were outraged)

if those 53000, were 75000 deaths or 100,000 deaths during the same 4 weeks if we had been left opened, do you think that would not have crushed the economy and brought it to its knees?

Do you think all the Sports teams would have continued as normal? And theaters, and concerts, and restaurants, and mall businesses would have not taken a major hit?

imo, the economy, one way or another was doomed....

but one way, shuttering, brought the immediate death count down... which is a plus.

ALL OF THIS would have been different, IF our CDC had tests in late January...when the time was ripe for containment, with testing and contact tracing, and confining only the sick.....

but we didn't have the testing....

states were trying to navigate this virus blind without testing at least 10% of their communities... so the only option, was to go in to the mitigation stage, and skip the containment phase.... shut down everything everywhere, because no one knew, where the virus was..............

Testing in mass early on was MISSED....

THIS is what caused the whole mess we are in....

Hopefully, our govt has learned from this.... for the next new virus pandemic....

There is no testing for mass hysteria. That's the point of mass hysteria. Now that Los Angeles is getting tested we find that the Chinese virus has been here since late summer or at least fall. The death rate in this new reality is that it is exceedingly small.

 

[Billy_Bob]

so reducing immediate deaths doesn't count as a plus in your head?

keeping hospitals in tact is not a plus either?

Those who die from contracting this will die today or tomorrow when they contract it. We now have treatments that can save most people if they are started early in the infection process and not after the immune system goes into chaos.

Its time to get on with life.

The lockdown has served well to keep the number of hospitalizations relatively low. That allows for better treatment, reduced fatalities and time to develop a vaccine.

Relatively speaking, we are winning this war...why change tactics when your winning?

Because the cure is now becoming worse than the virus.. Suicides, Loss of homes, loss of families, poverty all have costs in lives lost. Suicide rates have jumped x3 in the last two weeks. These are preventable deaths of the young and those who are not affected by the virus to any real extent. We also now have treatments that work and increased hospital capacity to deal with larger numbers of patients who are ill needing intervention.

Its time to change game plans to save lives in both areas becasue WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND CAN DO IT!..

No, the "cure" is not still worse than the virus. This is a virus that has killed 200,000 people in a matter of weeks worldwide. Lift restrictions too soon and you will see overtaxed health systems.

Were about to find out if it can be done safely and what it will cause.. Georgia will be crystal clear in about three weeks.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Democrats need the people to suffer financial ruin and devastation just as they did in 2008. They had no hope of defeating the Trump economy or Trump otherwise.

Pelosie just closed the House off for two weeks... Nothing is now going to move... Time for most states to get moving again and stop the damage she is intentionally trying to inflict.

How does someone like her get elected?.....

Cult devotion...

Certainly looks like it....have you had your bleach dose today?

Do you think it is wrong to encourage thousands of people you dont even know to drink bleach?

How many unstable people will your encouragement influence?

Maybe YOU are responsible for the uptick in poisonings

 

[Seawytch]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Truman socialized the railroads temporarily when a continued strike threatened the nation.

We can socialize the food industry temporarily if needed.

If only we had leadership in this time of crisis....

Too bad we don't.

even socialized its still not running,,,

and lets not forget the fact that when a socialist government takes over the food industry it results in millions of deaths,,,

It's so weird...you keep saying "this will cause millions of deaths" or "that will cause millions of deaths", but you have yet to provide proof of your claims.

if you read my full comment instead of editing it you would know your answer,,,

I don't want your opinion, I want proof. Provide a link to "millions dying".

 

[progressive hunter]

There have been over 55,000 deaths in the U.S. despite the extreme isolation and lock- downs.

How many more have to die before the Trumpbot idiots recognize how devastating this virus is?

OK but what about the millions that are going to suffer and die from the results of the lockdown???

Based on what data do you believe "millions will die"?

we have several historical accounts of the food industry being halted causing millions of deaths,,,

Truman socialized the railroads temporarily when a continued strike threatened the nation.

We can socialize the food industry temporarily if needed.

If only we had leadership in this time of crisis....

Too bad we don't.

even socialized its still not running,,,

and lets not forget the fact that when a socialist government takes over the food industry it results in millions of deaths,,,

It's so weird...you keep saying "this will cause millions of deaths" or "that will cause millions of deaths", but you have yet to provide proof of your claims.

if you read my full comment instead of editing it you would know your answer,,,

I don't want your opinion, I want proof. Provide a link to "millions dying".

suffer or die,,,

and I dont care what you want,,,

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

And we've accomplished that. In most places, the hospitals never came close to capacity.

Because social distancing worked.

Social distancing was already factored into the models that made these predictions. They still fell far short of the chaos they were predicting. You have no evidence that social distancing is any more or less responsible for that. That is your biased opinion that you've chosen to invest in.