So, how many leftists will admit socialism failed Venezuela?

Obamacare was the best thing that ever happened to the working poor and the poor, except in real a****** red States.
Obamacare is the largest wealth redistribution scam in the history of the US, taking thousands/yr from the middle class.

No wonder a low-info socialist loves it.
We made a pact with the devil when we slashed taxes on the rich. The decreased revenue has made us cut services to the poor and working class
The middle class is being ruined even more I think. When Reagan started we had a saving rate of 7-8% now it's -6 to -8% LOL everybody's taking out loans to keep up the American dream....
So you whine about the demise of America's middle class and extol the virtue of Obamacare? Who the fuck do you think is being made to pay for it?

Never let it be said you ever think anything through.
 
You aren't listening closely enough. When told 150 million Americans have private health insurance through their employers and 68% consider it good or excellent, Bernie still insisted they must be forced to surrender their coverage for the common good.

For some odd reason all those "good" socialist policies always empower big, greasy central gov't at the expense of freedom.
Fuck him, fuck socialism, and :fu:

Oh yeah ... and have a nice day.
Lol I would love to see this poll because that sounds like complete bullshit. What is true that only 1 in 7 people with insurance through their employer do not have a deductible. This means most people choose not to have certain important medical procedures because they can’t afford them.

Higher health insurance deductibles a sickening trend for Americans
Having no deductible means most people choose not to have certain important medical procedures because they can’t afford them?

As always you lead with your vast ignorance but never let that slow your roll ... nothing discredits leftism better than the leftards who believe in it.
 
You aren't listening closely enough. When told 150 million Americans have private health insurance through their employers and 68% consider it good or excellent, Bernie still insisted they must be forced to surrender their coverage for the common good.

For some odd reason all those "good" socialist policies always empower big, greasy central gov't at the expense of freedom.
Fuck him, fuck socialism, and :fu:

Oh yeah ... and have a nice day.
Lol I would love to see this poll because that sounds like complete bullshit. What is true that only 1 in 7 people with insurance through their employer do not have a deductible. This means most people choose not to have certain important medical procedures because they can’t afford them.

Higher health insurance deductibles a sickening trend for Americans
Having no deductible means most people choose not to have certain important medical procedures because they can’t afford them?

As always you lead with your vast ignorance but never let that slow your roll ... nothing discredits leftism better than the leftards who believe in it.
No you moron. Obviously I meant most of that 6 out 7. This shit isn’t hard to figure out.
 
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Up until Obamacare I thought he was a pretty good POTUS and am still proud that so many Americans could look beyond his skin tone and vote for him. That said, there was indeed far too much racism in the criticism he and his fam took.

The point you assiduously avoided is that you bitter leftards would much rather the US crash & burn than succeed & prosper with Trump as POTUS.

In my book that makes you traitors … every one of you.
I am willing to enjoy our continued economic strength
But am unwilling to accept the claim that the economy sucked under Obama and was rescued by Trump...
As am I. Obama was handed an economic shit-sandwich and was smart enough to get out of our way and allow Americans to do what we do best … succeed & prosper. That this historically long economic expansion has continued under Trump is nothing short of remarkable and it has broadened to include as wide a swath of Americans as I've seen in my lifetime. As advertised, the rising tide surely has raised all ships.

Say what you will about his persona, his hair, his skin tone, his whatever … we have done well in Trump's 2.5 years as POTUS and from what I've heard from the Democrat Socialist Party Clown Car, they would undo it because - like you - they hate him far more than they love this country.
Yeah, he was given an economic shit sandwich, but let us make a few things clear about why.

First of all clinton rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act which put significant pressure on banks to lend to low income neighborhoods. Look that up. Mac, the moron thinks that had very little effect.

Clinton also passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act which exempted default swaps from regulation. He did that btw in December of 2000, which was one of his last actions as president. Wonder why he did that on his way out?

Also, who headed up the Fannie and Freddie debacle? That was pole smoking moron Barney Frank and Dodd. Both democrats.

The economy was actually fairly strong until the end of 2006. Unemployment was down and the dow was pretty high and considering 5 years after the 911 attack and total destruction of the economic heart of America qnd and the world, rather interesting.

Then.....the democrats took over after the media propaganda convinced all of us that things were horrific with the economy and as the left cried that Boooosh enforced the Iraq Liberation Act for wmds that clinton signed before he got into office, the country was conned into voting in the party of big tax and socialism. What did the economy do from 2007 to 2010, when the party of big tax had control?

Then, the republicans took back the House in 2010, the Senate in 2014 and presidency in 2016.

Yet, they credit the skinny gay marxist and the democrats for an economic recovery?

Huh

You only pay attention to the Rich. Us Middle Class were already in deep trouble after 2001. It didn't hit the rich until 2009. Bush Jr. saw it and tried to do something about it but was laughed right off capital hill in 2003 with his 733 billion dollar prevention. You honestly think the Obama had to go that far to come up with what he is credited for? No, he just adjusted what Bush Jr and his financial wizards had already done. By waiting until it affected the Rich so heavily it hammered the entire globe. Shades of 1929. I condemn Bush Jr for a lot of things but I give him credit for keeping this nation afloat. His planning and broad sights made it so that Obama could get the buyout package done much quicker. I don't even know if Obama and his bunch were bright enough to pull it off without Bush Jr and his bright advisers help. We'll never know.

Guess what, the middle class is in trouble again. And it is just getting worse. You want to wait until the Rich get leveled before you say there is anything wrong? Shades of 2009 and 1929 all over again. If I used the same time frame, the others took about 5 years to fester. So we take 2 years ago, add 3 years to it and we have 2021 and another bust coming unless we get some much smarter managers in our current government fast. That means, if we continue with Trump OR if we go with the 3 front runners of the Dem Party we are in very serious trouble. I don't know about you but that scares the living crap out of me.
Nothing on earth dumber than a fucking middle class American socialist.

Nothing
Up until Obamacare I thought he was a pretty good POTUS and am still proud that so many Americans could look beyond his skin tone and vote for him. That said, there was indeed far too much racism in the criticism he and his fam took.

The point you assiduously avoided is that you bitter leftards would much rather the US crash & burn than succeed & prosper with Trump as POTUS.

In my book that makes you traitors … every one of you.
I am willing to enjoy our continued economic strength
But am unwilling to accept the claim that the economy sucked under Obama and was rescued by Trump...
As am I. Obama was handed an economic shit-sandwich and was smart enough to get out of our way and allow Americans to do what we do best … succeed & prosper. That this historically long economic expansion has continued under Trump is nothing short of remarkable and it has broadened to include as wide a swath of Americans as I've seen in my lifetime. As advertised, the rising tide surely has raised all ships.

Say what you will about his persona, his hair, his skin tone, his whatever … we have done well in Trump's 2.5 years as POTUS and from what I've heard from the Democrat Socialist Party Clown Car, they would undo it because - like you - they hate him far more than they love this country.
Yeah, he was given an economic shit sandwich, but let us make a few things clear about why.

First of all clinton rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act which put significant pressure on banks to lend to low income neighborhoods. Look that up. Mac, the moron thinks that had very little effect.

Clinton also passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act which exempted default swaps from regulation. He did that btw in December of 2000, which was one of his last actions as president. Wonder why he did that on his way out?

Also, who headed up the Fannie and Freddie debacle? That was pole smoking moron Barney Frank and Dodd. Both democrats.

The economy was actually fairly strong until the end of 2006. Unemployment was down and the dow was pretty high and considering 5 years after the 911 attack and total destruction of the economic heart of America qnd and the world, rather interesting.

Then.....the democrats took over after the media propaganda convinced all of us that things were horrific with the economy and as the left cried that Boooosh enforced the Iraq Liberation Act for wmds that clinton signed before he got into office, the country was conned into voting in the party of big tax and socialism. What did the economy do from 2007 to 2010, when the party of big tax had control?

Then, the republicans took back the House in 2010, the Senate in 2014 and presidency in 2016.

Yet, they credit the skinny gay marxist and the democrats for an economic recovery?

Huh

You only pay attention to the Rich. Us Middle Class were already in deep trouble after 2001. It didn't hit the rich until 2009. Bush Jr. saw it and tried to do something about it but was laughed right off capital hill in 2003 with his 733 billion dollar prevention. You honestly think the Obama had to go that far to come up with what he is credited for? No, he just adjusted what Bush Jr and his financial wizards had already done. By waiting until it affected the Rich so heavily it hammered the entire globe. Shades of 1929. I condemn Bush Jr for a lot of things but I give him credit for keeping this nation afloat. His planning and broad sights made it so that Obama could get the buyout package done much quicker. I don't even know if Obama and his bunch were bright enough to pull it off without Bush Jr and his bright advisers help. We'll never know.

Guess what, the middle class is in trouble again. And it is just getting worse. You want to wait until the Rich get leveled before you say there is anything wrong? Shades of 2009 and 1929 all over again. If I used the same time frame, the others took about 5 years to fester. So we take 2 years ago, add 3 years to it and we have 2021 and another bust coming unless we get some much smarter managers in our current government fast. That means, if we continue with Trump OR if we go with the 3 front runners of the Dem Party we are in very serious trouble. I don't know about you but that scares the living crap out of me.
Nothing on earth dumber than a fucking middle class American socialist.

Nothing

 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...

AOC will slowly go to the Social Democratic side of things as she ages. Bernie isn't a Democrat and never has been. If he were to win the nomination as a Democrat it would be as bazaar as Trump winning the Republican Nomination. Hell does freeze over sometimes I guess.
 
Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
Socialism didn't fail Venezuela. They built their economy on a one legged platform and to make matters worse elected a dictator, just like we did.
if trump is a dictator how come you can bad mouth him in public and not get arrested?....just asking....
It isn't because he doesn't want to, I garantee that.
well when you have been in a position of some kind of power your whole life,i guess its kinda hard to shake it off....
Excuse making
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...

AOC will slowly go to the Social Democratic side of things as she ages. Bernie isn't a Democrat and never has been. If he were to win the nomination as a Democrat it would be as bazaar as Trump winning the Republican Nomination. Hell does freeze over sometimes I guess.
The fact they are popular should trouble old school Democrats. The Democrat party has become socialist. I hear them speak all the time. They want to flood America with people who hate it, collapse it, and take it over. All while punishing white people they blame everything wrong on.
 
He brought down the cost of the loans quite a bit. I would like everything else the country is desperate for Democrats to get in with 60 + votes. Without being in a GOP economic meltdown would be nice too...




He made it easier to pay off loans so university's just raised prices, like I said

Obama's student loan policy is costing twice as much as expected
.
That is what happens when you try to bring down costs for the students. It costs the government more. Your GOP has cut taxes on the rich for 35 years until now they pay less than most of the middle class percentage wise, and everyone is going to hell bought them. Wake up and smell the coffee. worried about taxing people? you are the people being taxed- regular people. Brainwashed functional morons are basically all GOP voters. Poor America...
We made a pact with the devil when we slashed taxes on the rich

The decreased revenue has made us cut services to the poor and working class
The middle class is being ruined even more I think. When Reagan started we had a saving rate of 7-8% now it's -6 to -8% LOL everybody's taking out loans to keep up the American dream....
Obamacare was the best thing that ever happened to the working poor and the poor, except in real a****** red States.


Oh really and how?
 
Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
The intrinsic flaw in Venezuela’s struggle is not
Socialism. It’s so pathetic how you ass hats cherry pick something like Venezuela but conveniently ignore the success of Norway, England, Denmark, S. Korea, Japan....Hell the US. The US is mixed economy. That makes it SOCIALIST.
Norway, England, Denmark, S. Korea, and Japan aren't any more socialist that the United States, shit for brains.

Franco says socialism is capitalism. Now you claim a mixed economy is socialism.

If the United States is already socialist, then why do you Trump hating commies keep saying we need to adopt socialism?
Socialism is not capitalism. If it is facilitated by a government, the type of economy itself is socialist in nature. What you aren’t getting is that socialism is a very broad term. Plain and simple, any institution that is funded by the people and utilized by the people is SOCIALISM. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world. You do know the word social is in the word right? It has nothing to do with how authoritative a government is.

What we need to adopt, specifically, is social democratic principles which is what Bernie is suggesting. This doesn’t involve ending capitalism. It involves ensuring that we the people benefit from a free trade system and that democratic socialist programs like medicare, Medicare, social security, and tuition free college benefits the population.
You aren't listening closely enough. When told 150 million Americans have private health insurance through their employers and 68% consider it good or excellent, Bernie still insisted they must be forced to surrender their coverage for the common good.

For some odd reason all those "good" socialist policies always empower big, greasy central gov't at the expense of freedom.
Fuck him, fuck socialism, and :fu:

Oh yeah ... and have a nice day.
Lol I would love to see this poll because that sounds like complete bullshit. What is true that only 1 in 7 people with insurance through their employer do not have a deductible. This means most people choose not to have certain important medical procedures because they can’t afford them.

Higher health insurance deductibles a sickening trend for Americans


Obama care made deductibles higher you stupid fuck


.
 
Socialists can't ever admit socialism fails. They're idealogues. Idealogues don't live in reality.
 
Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
The intrinsic flaw in Venezuela’s struggle is not
Socialism. It’s so pathetic how you ass hats cherry pick something like Venezuela but conveniently ignore the success of Norway, England, Denmark, S. Korea, Japan....Hell the US. The US is mixed economy. That makes it SOCIALIST.
Norway, England, Denmark, S. Korea, and Japan aren't any more socialist that the United States, shit for brains.

Franco says socialism is capitalism. Now you claim a mixed economy is socialism.

If the United States is already socialist, then why do you Trump hating commies keep saying we need to adopt socialism?
Socialism is not capitalism. If it is facilitated by a government, the type of economy itself is socialist in nature. What you aren’t getting is that socialism is a very broad term. Plain and simple, any institution that is funded by the people and utilized by the people is SOCIALISM. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world. You do know the word social is in the word right? It has nothing to do with how authoritative a government is.

What we need to adopt, specifically, is social democratic principles which is what Bernie is suggesting. This doesn’t involve ending capitalism. It involves ensuring that we the people benefit from a free trade system and that democratic socialist programs like medicare, Medicare, social security, and tuition free college benefits the population.
You aren't listening closely enough. When told 150 million Americans have private health insurance through their employers and 68% consider it good or excellent, Bernie still insisted they must be forced to surrender their coverage for the common good.

For some odd reason all those "good" socialist policies always empower big, greasy central gov't at the expense of freedom.
Fuck him, fuck socialism, and :fu:
.
Oh yeah ... and have a nice day.

OK, you or our employer keep paying premiums to get care in a given set of facilities while making co-pays while your insurer determines where to get care and if you are covered fore that doctor or that facility. You spend hoyrs sarguing with insurers & providers. I'll just keep getting care.

I'll go anywhere I want without co-pays & my employer and I will pay less.

BTW, ask your employer if they still want to pay for your coverage.
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...
No brainwashed functional moron we mean we are not Communists. Learn the difference for Christ's sake.
 
He made it easier to pay off loans so university's just raised prices, like I said

Obama's student loan policy is costing twice as much as expected
.
That is what happens when you try to bring down costs for the students. It costs the government more. Your GOP has cut taxes on the rich for 35 years until now they pay less than most of the middle class percentage wise, and everyone is going to hell bought them. Wake up and smell the coffee. worried about taxing people? you are the people being taxed- regular people. Brainwashed functional morons are basically all GOP voters. Poor America...
We made a pact with the devil when we slashed taxes on the rich

The decreased revenue has made us cut services to the poor and working class
The middle class is being ruined even more I think. When Reagan started we had a saving rate of 7-8% now it's -6 to -8% LOL everybody's taking out loans to keep up the American dream....
Obamacare was the best thing that ever happened to the working poor and the poor, except in real a****** red States.


Oh really and how?
People earning less than $1,400 a month Scott Medicaid. Meanwhile 75% of people in the exchanges paid less than $100. But of course you are a brainwashed functional moron.the only real problem is that Healthcare is ridiculously expensive after 35 years of GOP non-regulation.
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...

AOC will slowly go to the Social Democratic side of things as she ages. Bernie isn't a Democrat and never has been. If he were to win the nomination as a Democrat it would be as bazaar as Trump winning the Republican Nomination. Hell does freeze over sometimes I guess.
The fact they are popular should trouble old school Democrats. The Democrat party has become socialist. I hear them speak all the time. They want to flood America with people who hate it, collapse it, and take it over. All while punishing white people they blame everything wrong on.
Pass the 2010 comprehensive immigration bill with ID card and end this GOP scam, brainwashed functional moron.
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...

AOC will slowly go to the Social Democratic side of things as she ages. Bernie isn't a Democrat and never has been. If he were to win the nomination as a Democrat it would be as bazaar as Trump winning the Republican Nomination. Hell does freeze over sometimes I guess.
The fact they are popular should trouble old school Democrats. The Democrat party has become socialist. I hear them speak all the time. They want to flood America with people who hate it, collapse it, and take it over. All while punishing white people they blame everything wrong on.
no one is talking about anything but democracy with socialism. You people are idiots. Brainwashed idiots
 
I saw a Democrat get booed at a Democrat rally for saying socialism wasn't the answer.
Of course everyone is talking about socialism as Democratic socialism. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC FAIR CAPITALISM WITH A GOOD SAFETY NET. END OF STORY. LIKE THE SOCIALIST PARTIES IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND SCANDINAVIA AND HOLLAND. THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES ARE CAPITALIST RUNNING DOGS IN COMPARISON, BUT YOU'RE LEARNING. AS CHARLES DE GAULLE WOULD SAY.
If Democrats weren't socialist, Bernie Sanders and AOC wouldn't popular. Bernie, a full on socialist, might be elected by Democrats.

Democrats be like... I'm not a socialist, I just like socialism and vote for socialist...
No brainwashed functional moron we mean we are not Communists. Learn the difference for Christ's sake.
Socialism is just a stepping stone towards communism.

If you don't believe me, imagine a Democrat saying the government is to big.
 
That is what happens when you try to bring down costs for the students. It costs the government more. Your GOP has cut taxes on the rich for 35 years until now they pay less than most of the middle class percentage wise, and everyone is going to hell bought them. Wake up and smell the coffee. worried about taxing people? you are the people being taxed- regular people. Brainwashed functional morons are basically all GOP voters. Poor America...
We made a pact with the devil when we slashed taxes on the rich

The decreased revenue has made us cut services to the poor and working class
The middle class is being ruined even more I think. When Reagan started we had a saving rate of 7-8% now it's -6 to -8% LOL everybody's taking out loans to keep up the American dream....
Obamacare was the best thing that ever happened to the working poor and the poor, except in real a****** red States.


Oh really and how?
People earning less than $1,400 a month Scott Medicaid. Meanwhile 75% of people in the exchanges paid less than $100. But of course you are a brainwashed functional moron.the only real problem is that Healthcare is ridiculously expensive after 35 years of GOP non-regulation.

No it is ridiculous expensive with 50 million Illegals using our emergency rooms and who among poor people had an extra $100 bucks a month with the tax on snicker bars and big gulps are sky high?

.
 

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