So....how many posters do we have who have heard of this INCEL Movement?

[danielpalos]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

No real man invented socialism, faggot.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

 

[WinterBorn]

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

nice story, story teller.

The Average Employee Lawsuit costs $250,000…How Safe is your Company? - Cutting Edge Recruiting Solutions

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason. But, if the conditions were wrong, then the business can be sued. Much like you claiming that there can legally be no for-cause terminations (which is incorrect), there can terminations that are illegal even in an at-will employment state.

And your claim that offering unemployment compensation would eliminate such court costs is amusing.

 

[WinterBorn]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

No real man invented socialism, faggot.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

 

[danielpalos]

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

nice story, story teller.

The Average Employee Lawsuit costs $250,000…How Safe is your Company? - Cutting Edge Recruiting Solutions

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason.

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

No real man invented socialism, faggot.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

lol. bunch of wo-men.

 

[WinterBorn]

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

nice story, story teller.

The Average Employee Lawsuit costs $250,000…How Safe is your Company? - Cutting Edge Recruiting Solutions

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason.

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

 

[WinterBorn]

No real man invented socialism, faggot.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

lol. bunch of wo-men.

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

 

[danielpalos]

nice story, story teller.

The Average Employee Lawsuit costs $250,000…How Safe is your Company? - Cutting Edge Recruiting Solutions

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason.

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

 

[danielpalos]

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

lol. bunch of wo-men.

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

says the story teller who has no arguments, only stories.

 

[WinterBorn]

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason.

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

I am not trolling. I have asked you numerous times to tell me what is not equal, but you just spew the same nonsense.

So what is unequal about the current at-will system?

 

[WinterBorn]

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

lol. bunch of wo-men.

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

says the story teller who has no arguments, only stories.

Just because you choose to ignore my arguments does not make them invalid. I have made perfectly good arguments, and you simply stomp your feet like a child and keep repeating the same bullshit.

 

[danielpalos]

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason.

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

I am not trolling. I have asked you numerous times to tell me what is not equal, but you just spew the same nonsense.

So what is unequal about the current at-will system?

the law is employment at the will of either party. what one party can do, the other party can do equally.

 

[danielpalos]

it takes Manly balls to come up with superior arguments. wo-men can gossip.

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

lol. bunch of wo-men.

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

says the story teller who has no arguments, only stories.

Just because you choose to ignore my arguments does not make them invalid. I have made perfectly good arguments, and you simply stomp your feet like a child and keep repeating the same bullshit.

lol. dear, you only have stories about good arguments.

 

[WinterBorn]

At-will means they can fire you at any time, for any or no reason.

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

I am not trolling. I have asked you numerous times to tell me what is not equal, but you just spew the same nonsense.

So what is unequal about the current at-will system?

the law is employment at the will of either party. what one party can do, the other party can do equally.

And that happens. The employer can fire the employee at any time. The employee can quit at any time. That does not mean the unemployment compensation is the same if you are fired for no reason or fired for cause or you quit.

 

[WinterBorn]

And it takes no balls to make baseless accusations and refuse to defend them.

lol. bunch of wo-men.

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

says the story teller who has no arguments, only stories.

Just because you choose to ignore my arguments does not make them invalid. I have made perfectly good arguments, and you simply stomp your feet like a child and keep repeating the same bullshit.

lol. dear, you only have stories about good arguments.

YOu are such a tiresome little liar.

Tell us why you deserve to make a living doing nothing, and being paid from money taken from people who earn it?

And how old are you?

 

[danielpalos]

all Labor needs is equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation.

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

I am not trolling. I have asked you numerous times to tell me what is not equal, but you just spew the same nonsense.

So what is unequal about the current at-will system?

the law is employment at the will of either party. what one party can do, the other party can do equally.

And that happens. The employer can fire the employee at any time. The employee can quit at any time. That does not mean the unemployment compensation is the same if you are fired for no reason or fired for cause or you quit.

Why would it be any different in any at-will employment State with equal protection of the law?

 

[danielpalos]

lol. bunch of wo-men.

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

says the story teller who has no arguments, only stories.

Just because you choose to ignore my arguments does not make them invalid. I have made perfectly good arguments, and you simply stomp your feet like a child and keep repeating the same bullshit.

lol. dear, you only have stories about good arguments.

YOu are such a tiresome little liar.

Tell us why you deserve to make a living doing nothing, and being paid from money taken from people who earn it?

And how old are you?

you are worse, story teller. have you no shame.

 

[WinterBorn]

There is equal protection. You can quit at any time. That is the best you get. Want money? Get a job. Want a job you enjoy? Learn a skill at something you enjoy.

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

I am not trolling. I have asked you numerous times to tell me what is not equal, but you just spew the same nonsense.

So what is unequal about the current at-will system?

the law is employment at the will of either party. what one party can do, the other party can do equally.

And that happens. The employer can fire the employee at any time. The employee can quit at any time. That does not mean the unemployment compensation is the same if you are fired for no reason or fired for cause or you quit.

Why would it be any different in any at-will employment State with equal protection of the law?

It wouldn't.

You know, if you put as much effort into developing a marketable skill or working a job as you do trying to get laid, give a massage, or get paid for nothing, you might have a successful career.

 

[WinterBorn]

Says the guy who makes baseless accusations, ignores facts, refuses to work, and demands the world support his desire for luxuries.

says the story teller who has no arguments, only stories.

Just because you choose to ignore my arguments does not make them invalid. I have made perfectly good arguments, and you simply stomp your feet like a child and keep repeating the same bullshit.

lol. dear, you only have stories about good arguments.

YOu are such a tiresome little liar.

Tell us why you deserve to make a living doing nothing, and being paid from money taken from people who earn it?

And how old are you?

you are worse, story teller. have you no shame.

Correction, I have nothing to be ashamed of here.

 

[danielpalos]

that is not equal protection of the law.

you don't care, so why troll?

I am not trolling. I have asked you numerous times to tell me what is not equal, but you just spew the same nonsense.

So what is unequal about the current at-will system?

the law is employment at the will of either party. what one party can do, the other party can do equally.

And that happens. The employer can fire the employee at any time. The employee can quit at any time. That does not mean the unemployment compensation is the same if you are fired for no reason or fired for cause or you quit.

Why would it be any different in any at-will employment State with equal protection of the law?

It wouldn't.

You know, if you put as much effort into developing a marketable skill or working a job as you do trying to get laid, give a massage, or get paid for nothing, you might have a successful career.

Thank you for ceding the point and the argument. I rest my case.