So it your position that video games cause rampage murder with guns...

[jc456]

Life is complicated. This issue is complicated.

You can't point to ONE THING and say "that's it". It's just a piece in the puzzle.

The issue is not really that complicated Mac. We have video games, mental illness, violent movies, and even racism in other countries and the ONLY differences between the USA and the rest of the first world is the availability of guns, and a history of violent racism.

America has had guns since the forming of the country. Mass shootings started around the late 1980’s. Something changed in that time frame. Canada has racism issues as does Sweden and every other nation. The difference is the media attention on the United States. My advice to you is don’t come into the United States.

Canada is now experiencing increased gun crime.....they had a mass shooting a year or so ago, so as their welfare state increases fatherless homes, their mass shooting rate will likely go up.

They need to build a wall between them and us. That will help keep guns and illegals out.

Canada, unlike United State, recorded only three mass shootings between 2000 and 2014.

Can somebody post hos many we had during that time?

why three?

 

[Rustic]

If I invented a gun that could take out 1/4th of a football stadium with one pull of the trigger, would you be ok with the masses owning this gun?

Of course you would.

So 16,000 people with one pull of my trigger. You think it would be ok for everyone and anyone to own this gun?

Lol
Firearms have nothing to do with violent behavior, because they do not change the person or control the person.
It all comes back to the individual, Blaming an inanimate object Is childish at Best

Says the purported gun dealer.

The AR15 the Ohio shooter was carrying, killed or injured nearly 30 people in 30 seconds before the police shot him in a hail of bullets. This rifle is sold with advertising it's ability to take out multiple targets quickly with maximum internal damage. This is the preferred weapon of mass shooters everywhere. A gun with no reasonable value except to raise the body count.

Other countries have a tradition of hunting too. Canada also has a tradition of retail hunting and fishing. Rich people flying in to hunt tropies, although many of the trophy species are now facing extinction, like Grizzlies, and polar bears. Restrictions on gun ownership and people killing weapons and handguns have done NOTHING to curb legitmate hunters or the industries built around them in other countries.

My husband's family owns a huge hunting camp near Huntsville, which they bought more than 50 years ago, which sleeps 60. There's a big shindig there at the end of every deer season. One of my brothers went deer hunting for two weeks every year, throughout his adult life. I've enjoyed moose and deer, killed by family members. One of my Toronto neighbours went duck hunting every fall. The Lake Erie community where I now live is on the duck migration route, and hunters are currently spiffing up their blinds.

If gun ownership made people safer, then the USA wouldn't be the most dangerous country in the first world. It would be the safest.

ARs and the like are least of this country’s worry’s, Cars, alcohol, lawn mowers, bath tubs, hammers, knives, etc. All have higher body counts then people using ARs.
None of which are an right like firearm ownership is.
It’s American thing you obviously don’t understand... lol

Post the source of this so-called data.

Use the Google... lol

Out of the millions of ARs owned legally by Americans what is percentage of them are used in Violent crime?
Basically a percentage off of an percentage at best... Cars for instance kill far more people. And vehicle ownership is not even an right, it a privilege. Firearm ownership is an absolute right less someone fucks it up for themselves.

Like I said political correctness makes people fucking retarded.

 

[jc456]

If I invented a gun that could take out 1/4th of a football stadium with one pull of the trigger, would you be ok with the masses owning this gun?

Of course you would.

So 16,000 people with one pull of my trigger. You think it would be ok for everyone and anyone to own this gun?

Lol
Firearms have nothing to do with violent behavior, because they do not change the person or control the person.
It all comes back to the individual, Blaming an inanimate object Is childish at Best

Says the purported gun dealer.

The AR15 the Ohio shooter was carrying, killed or injured nearly 30 people in 30 seconds before the police shot him in a hail of bullets. This rifle is sold with advertising it's ability to take out multiple targets quickly with maximum internal damage. This is the preferred weapon of mass shooters everywhere. A gun with no reasonable value except to raise the body count.

Other countries have a tradition of hunting too. Canada also has a tradition of retail hunting and fishing. Rich people flying in to hunt tropies, although many of the trophy species are now facing extinction, like Grizzlies, and polar bears. Restrictions on gun ownership and people killing weapons and handguns have done NOTHING to curb legitmate hunters or the industries built around them in other countries.

My husband's family owns a huge hunting camp near Huntsville, which they bought more than 50 years ago, which sleeps 60. There's a big shindig there at the end of every deer season. One of my brothers went deer hunting for two weeks every year, throughout his adult life. I've enjoyed moose and deer, killed by family members. One of my Toronto neighbours went duck hunting every fall. The Lake Erie community where I now live is on the duck migration route, and hunters are currently spiffing up their blinds.

If gun ownership made people safer, then the USA wouldn't be the most dangerous country in the first world. It would be the safest.

ARs and the like are least of this country’s worry’s, Cars, alcohol, lawn mowers, bath tubs, hammers, knives, etc. All have higher body counts then people using ARs.
None of which are an right like firearm ownership is.
It’s American thing you obviously don’t understand... lol

Post the source of this so-called data.

Use the Google... lol

Out of the millions of ARs on legally by Americans him what is percentage of them are used in Violent crime?
Basically a percentage off of an percentage... Cars for instance kill far more people. And vehicle ownership is not even an right, it a privilege. Firearm ownership is an absolute right less someone fucks it up for themselves.

Like I said political correctness makes people fucking retarded.

dude, they don't wish to debate you. they only want to take away your rights. they don't look up statistics and find out that everything they've been told is a lie. every bit of it. no background check would have stopped the last few mass shootings. not one of them. yet, here they are moaning about em. it's a pointless exercise for all.

 

[Papageorgio]

Well that was bullshit... Move on...

Access to guns

If I invented a gun that could take out 1/4th of a football stadium with one pull of the trigger, would you be ok with the masses owning this gun?

Of course you would.

So 16,000 people with one pull of my trigger. You think it would be ok for everyone and anyone to own this gun?

Lol
Firearms have nothing to do with violent behavior, because they do not change the person or control the person.
It all comes back to the individual, Blaming an inanimate object Is childish at Best

So, alcohol has nothing to do with alcoholism either.

It's not the alcohol, it's an addiction issue. You might need to come into this century.

 

[Mac1958]

Life is complicated. This issue is complicated.

You can't point to ONE THING and say "that's it". It's just a piece in the puzzle.

The issue is not really that complicated Mac. We have video games, mental illness, violent movies, and even racism in other countries and the ONLY differences between the USA and the rest of the first world is the availability of guns, and a history of violent racism.

The availability of guns is a serious problem, and I have no idea how to effectively address that issue legislatively. What I don't want us to do is slap some legislative band-aid on it and call it a day. That won't be enough.

I do know that if we look honestly at the statistics and demographics of Americans who shoot other Americans every week, there is plenty of responsibility on both ends of the spectrum, and THAT has to be addressed.
.

you don't even know what the problem is. you can't solve something you have no idea of what it is. If you truly believe guns is a problem, then so are cars and any other weapon out in the public. I truly wish people knew what they were talking about before they open their pie holes. sir, you don't know what you're talking about. And that has been for quite some time. I challenge you to a debate on guns. ready, what does a gun have to do with violence?

There's a pretty consistent difference between what I actually believe and what wingers here pretend that I believe.

Here is what I actually believe:

CDZ - Why aren't we addressing the gun issue as a cultural problem?
.

fine, explain what this means then?

Can we do some legislating here and there? Sure, let's look at EVERYTHING. But legislation's efficacy will be limited and long term only.
offer up something, what is it we can do? you said we can do that, so what exactly? that was vague and very general that it meant nothing. which is mostly what you post.

There are some fairly simple ideas out there, and we already both know you won't like any of them. You're not allowed to.

If my posts bother you, you're not required to read them. Whining doesn't help your cause.
.

 

[jc456]

The issue is not really that complicated Mac. We have video games, mental illness, violent movies, and even racism in other countries and the ONLY differences between the USA and the rest of the first world is the availability of guns, and a history of violent racism.

The availability of guns is a serious problem, and I have no idea how to effectively address that issue legislatively. What I don't want us to do is slap some legislative band-aid on it and call it a day. That won't be enough.

I do know that if we look honestly at the statistics and demographics of Americans who shoot other Americans every week, there is plenty of responsibility on both ends of the spectrum, and THAT has to be addressed.
.

you don't even know what the problem is. you can't solve something you have no idea of what it is. If you truly believe guns is a problem, then so are cars and any other weapon out in the public. I truly wish people knew what they were talking about before they open their pie holes. sir, you don't know what you're talking about. And that has been for quite some time. I challenge you to a debate on guns. ready, what does a gun have to do with violence?

There's a pretty consistent difference between what I actually believe and what wingers here pretend that I believe.

Here is what I actually believe:

CDZ - Why aren't we addressing the gun issue as a cultural problem?
.

fine, explain what this means then?

Can we do some legislating here and there? Sure, let's look at EVERYTHING. But legislation's efficacy will be limited and long term only.
offer up something, what is it we can do? you said we can do that, so what exactly? that was vague and very general that it meant nothing. which is mostly what you post.

There are some fairly simple ideas out there, and we already both know you won't like any of them. You're not allowed to.

If my posts bother you, you're not required to read them. Whining doesn't help your cause.
.

name one simple idea, let's debate it. Isn't that what this forum is for? no one in here says we all have to like each others positions, we should defend them though with fact.

 

[Papageorgio]

And let's not forget that the Russian propaganda machine is picking up and amplifying Trump's racist messages:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/22/trump-is-building-chaos-machine/

Russian trolls' graphic tweets on racism, rape, and Satanism revealed

Because we see it on this board every single day.

Yet, violence in video games, in the movies, on television, in music have no effect?

 

[jc456]

Well that was bullshit... Move on...

Access to guns

If I invented a gun that could take out 1/4th of a football stadium with one pull of the trigger, would you be ok with the masses owning this gun?

Of course you would.

So 16,000 people with one pull of my trigger. You think it would be ok for everyone and anyone to own this gun?

Lol
Firearms have nothing to do with violent behavior, because they do not change the person or control the person.
It all comes back to the individual, Blaming an inanimate object Is childish at Best

So, alcohol has nothing to do with alcoholism either.

nope it doesn't.

 

[Dragonlady]

If I invented a gun that could take out 1/4th of a football stadium with one pull of the trigger, would you be ok with the masses owning this gun?

Of course you would.

So 16,000 people with one pull of my trigger. You think it would be ok for everyone and anyone to own this gun?

Lol
Firearms have nothing to do with violent behavior, because they do not change the person or control the person.
It all comes back to the individual, Blaming an inanimate object Is childish at Best

Says the purported gun dealer.

The AR15 the Ohio shooter was carrying, killed or injured nearly 30 people in 30 seconds before the police shot him in a hail of bullets. This rifle is sold with advertising it's ability to take out multiple targets quickly with maximum internal damage. This is the preferred weapon of mass shooters everywhere. A gun with no reasonable value except to raise the body count.

Other countries have a tradition of hunting too. Canada also has a tradition of retail hunting and fishing. Rich people flying in to hunt tropies, although many of the trophy species are now facing extinction, like Grizzlies, and polar bears. Restrictions on gun ownership and people killing weapons and handguns have done NOTHING to curb legitmate hunters or the industries built around them in other countries.

My husband's family owns a huge hunting camp near Huntsville, which they bought more than 50 years ago, which sleeps 60. There's a big shindig there at the end of every deer season. One of my brothers went deer hunting for two weeks every year, throughout his adult life. I've enjoyed moose and deer, killed by family members. One of my Toronto neighbours went duck hunting every fall. The Lake Erie community where I now live is on the duck migration route, and hunters are currently spiffing up their blinds.

If gun ownership made people safer, then the USA wouldn't be the most dangerous country in the first world. It would be the safest.

ARs and the like are least of this country’s worry’s, Cars, alcohol, lawn mowers, bath tubs, hammers, knives, etc. All have higher body counts then people using ARs.
None of which are an right like firearm ownership is.
It’s American thing you obviously don’t understand... lol

Post the source of this so-called data.

Use the Google... lol

Out of the millions of ARs owned legally by Americans what is percentage of them are used in Violent crime?
Basically a percentage off of an percentage at best... Cars for instance kill far more people. And vehicle ownership is not even an right, it a privilege. Firearm ownership is an absolute right less someone fucks it up for themselves.

Like I said political correctness makes people fucking retarded.

Guns are supposed to defend people, not the other way around. The NRA used to be about gun safety and training. Now it's a lobby for gun manufacturers.

Out of the millions of AR's sold to the American public, it doesn't matter what percentage of them are used in mass murders, it's that all of the mass shooters are using this particular weapon to increase their body counts. One is too many.

35,000 gun deaths every single year. What's the point of spending all of that money on a weapon if you don't get to use it? 1000 children every single year. No other first world nation faces this level of carnage.

 

[jc456]

And let's not forget that the Russian propaganda machine is picking up and amplifying Trump's racist messages:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/22/trump-is-building-chaos-machine/

Russian trolls' graphic tweets on racism, rape, and Satanism revealed

Because we see it on this board every single day.

Yet, violence in video games, in the movies, on television, in music have no effect?

that's not orangeman bad.

 

[Mac1958]

The availability of guns is a serious problem, and I have no idea how to effectively address that issue legislatively. What I don't want us to do is slap some legislative band-aid on it and call it a day. That won't be enough.

I do know that if we look honestly at the statistics and demographics of Americans who shoot other Americans every week, there is plenty of responsibility on both ends of the spectrum, and THAT has to be addressed.
.

you don't even know what the problem is. you can't solve something you have no idea of what it is. If you truly believe guns is a problem, then so are cars and any other weapon out in the public. I truly wish people knew what they were talking about before they open their pie holes. sir, you don't know what you're talking about. And that has been for quite some time. I challenge you to a debate on guns. ready, what does a gun have to do with violence?

There's a pretty consistent difference between what I actually believe and what wingers here pretend that I believe.

Here is what I actually believe:

CDZ - Why aren't we addressing the gun issue as a cultural problem?
.

fine, explain what this means then?

Can we do some legislating here and there? Sure, let's look at EVERYTHING. But legislation's efficacy will be limited and long term only.
offer up something, what is it we can do? you said we can do that, so what exactly? that was vague and very general that it meant nothing. which is mostly what you post.

There are some fairly simple ideas out there, and we already both know you won't like any of them. You're not allowed to.

If my posts bother you, you're not required to read them. Whining doesn't help your cause.
.

name one simple idea, let's debate it. Isn't that what this forum is for? no one in here says we all have to like each others positions, we should defend them though with fact.

I don't come here to debate. It's a waste of time.

Find yourself a nice hardcore lefty and go at it.
.

 

[otto105]

The issue is not really that complicated Mac. We have video games, mental illness, violent movies, and even racism in other countries and the ONLY differences between the USA and the rest of the first world is the availability of guns, and a history of violent racism.

Lol
And yet here in rural America we have none of these problems, it is only in progress of controlled urban America was extremely strict gun control laws letting off repeat offenders which make up for the vast majority of violent crime in this country. Shut up with your socialism you loopy kunt...

Really? No problems at all?

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

Violent Crime in Rural Areas Rises Above U.S. Average | The Crime Report

'Everything has gotten worse.' Violent crime is surging in rural Iowa, fueled by the state's meth and mental health crises

Then there's the effect of ignoring climate change:

As climate change bites in America’s midwest, farmers are desperate to ring the alarm

4 Reasons Climate Change Impacts On Agriculture Matter To You

And the tariffs:

Who gets hurt by China's new tariffs on American goods? Farmers and chemical makers

The Unexpected Side Effects of Trump’s Trade War

Russian propaganda isn't working asshole!

Let me get this straight, when a cop kills a black man, it's the cops fault, when a mass shooting occurs it is the gun's fault.

No, its usually a white guys fault.

Tell that to the parents that mourn the loss of their children in South Chicago, I'm sure that will help.

The gun violence in Chicago is gang and drug related, not rampage mass murder that we are discussing.

 

[Papageorgio]

Lol
Firearms have nothing to do with violent behavior, because they do not change the person or control the person.
It all comes back to the individual, Blaming an inanimate object Is childish at Best

Says the purported gun dealer.

The AR15 the Ohio shooter was carrying, killed or injured nearly 30 people in 30 seconds before the police shot him in a hail of bullets. This rifle is sold with advertising it's ability to take out multiple targets quickly with maximum internal damage. This is the preferred weapon of mass shooters everywhere. A gun with no reasonable value except to raise the body count.

Other countries have a tradition of hunting too. Canada also has a tradition of retail hunting and fishing. Rich people flying in to hunt tropies, although many of the trophy species are now facing extinction, like Grizzlies, and polar bears. Restrictions on gun ownership and people killing weapons and handguns have done NOTHING to curb legitmate hunters or the industries built around them in other countries.

My husband's family owns a huge hunting camp near Huntsville, which they bought more than 50 years ago, which sleeps 60. There's a big shindig there at the end of every deer season. One of my brothers went deer hunting for two weeks every year, throughout his adult life. I've enjoyed moose and deer, killed by family members. One of my Toronto neighbours went duck hunting every fall. The Lake Erie community where I now live is on the duck migration route, and hunters are currently spiffing up their blinds.

If gun ownership made people safer, then the USA wouldn't be the most dangerous country in the first world. It would be the safest.

ARs and the like are least of this country’s worry’s, Cars, alcohol, lawn mowers, bath tubs, hammers, knives, etc. All have higher body counts then people using ARs.
None of which are an right like firearm ownership is.
It’s American thing you obviously don’t understand... lol

Post the source of this so-called data.

Use the Google... lol

Out of the millions of ARs owned legally by Americans what is percentage of them are used in Violent crime?
Basically a percentage off of an percentage at best... Cars for instance kill far more people. And vehicle ownership is not even an right, it a privilege. Firearm ownership is an absolute right less someone fucks it up for themselves.

Like I said political correctness makes people fucking retarded.

Guns are supposed to defend people, not the other way around. The NRA used to be about gun safety and training. Now it's a lobby for gun manufacturers.

Out of the millions of AR's sold to the American public, it doesn't matter what percentage of them are used in mass murders, it's that all of the mass shooters are using this particular weapon to increase their body counts. One is too many.

35,000 gun deaths every single year. What's the point of spending all of that money on a weapon if you don't get to use it? 1000 children every single year. No other first world nation faces this level of carnage.

I know a guy that owns over 100 cars, he drives only two or three. I used to own millions on baseball cards. They are called collections, people have them because they bring them joy. The largest collection of guns is over 66,000 and is in the Los Angeles area, they are used as props for movies, you know the movies that don't promote violence of any kind. A selection of their guns are in an NRA museum.

 

[Godboy]

Life is complicated. This issue is complicated.

You can't point to ONE THING and say "that's it". It's just a piece in the puzzle.

The issue is not really that complicated Mac. We have video games, mental illness, violent movies, and even racism in other countries and the ONLY differences between the USA and the rest of the first world is the availability of guns, and a history of violent racism.

America has had guns since the forming of the country. Mass shootings started around the late 1980’s. Something changed in that time frame. Canada has racism issues as does Sweden and every other nation. The difference is the media attention on the United States. My advice to you is don’t come into the United States.

Yes we do have racism issues, and on rare occasions we've had mass shooters - the latest one being a white boy who cited Donald Trump as his inspiration for killing 6 Muslims in a Montreal synagogue.

The difference isn't media attention, you dolt, IT'S FUCKING GUNS.

No, its definitely the media. They LOVE to post the manifestos of these killers and do stories about them for weeks. The FBI has said this contributes to mass killings. They give these killers the platform they desire.

 

[jc456]

you don't even know what the problem is. you can't solve something you have no idea of what it is. If you truly believe guns is a problem, then so are cars and any other weapon out in the public. I truly wish people knew what they were talking about before they open their pie holes. sir, you don't know what you're talking about. And that has been for quite some time. I challenge you to a debate on guns. ready, what does a gun have to do with violence?

There's a pretty consistent difference between what I actually believe and what wingers here pretend that I believe.

Here is what I actually believe:

CDZ - Why aren't we addressing the gun issue as a cultural problem?
.

fine, explain what this means then?

Can we do some legislating here and there? Sure, let's look at EVERYTHING. But legislation's efficacy will be limited and long term only.
offer up something, what is it we can do? you said we can do that, so what exactly? that was vague and very general that it meant nothing. which is mostly what you post.

There are some fairly simple ideas out there, and we already both know you won't like any of them. You're not allowed to.

If my posts bother you, you're not required to read them. Whining doesn't help your cause.
.

name one simple idea, let's debate it. Isn't that what this forum is for? no one in here says we all have to like each others positions, we should defend them though with fact.

I don't come here to debate. It's a waste of time.

Find yourself a nice hardcore lefty and go at it.
.

naw, they are a waste of effort. they have no objectivity.

But you, you're the one that is all knowing, and you avoid the ask. hmmmm you really are a chicken shit. all talk, no walk.

 

[otto105]

The issue is not really that complicated Mac. We have video games, mental illness, violent movies, and even racism in other countries and the ONLY differences between the USA and the rest of the first world is the availability of guns, and a history of violent racism.

America has had guns since the forming of the country. Mass shootings started around the late 1980’s. Something changed in that time frame. Canada has racism issues as does Sweden and every other nation. The difference is the media attention on the United States. My advice to you is don’t come into the United States.

Canada is now experiencing increased gun crime.....they had a mass shooting a year or so ago, so as their welfare state increases fatherless homes, their mass shooting rate will likely go up.

They need to build a wall between them and us. That will help keep guns and illegals out.

Canada, unlike United State, recorded only three mass shootings between 2000 and 2014.

Can somebody post hos many we had during that time?

why three?

Is three less than what the US had during that time?

 

[Papageorgio]

Lol
And yet here in rural America we have none of these problems, it is only in progress of controlled urban America was extremely strict gun control laws letting off repeat offenders which make up for the vast majority of violent crime in this country. Shut up with your socialism you loopy kunt...

Really? No problems at all?

In Rural America, Violent Crime Reaches Highest Level in a Decade

Violent Crime in Rural Areas Rises Above U.S. Average | The Crime Report

'Everything has gotten worse.' Violent crime is surging in rural Iowa, fueled by the state's meth and mental health crises

Then there's the effect of ignoring climate change:

As climate change bites in America’s midwest, farmers are desperate to ring the alarm

4 Reasons Climate Change Impacts On Agriculture Matter To You

And the tariffs:

Who gets hurt by China's new tariffs on American goods? Farmers and chemical makers

The Unexpected Side Effects of Trump’s Trade War

Russian propaganda isn't working asshole!

Let me get this straight, when a cop kills a black man, it's the cops fault, when a mass shooting occurs it is the gun's fault.

No, its usually a white guys fault.

Tell that to the parents that mourn the loss of their children in South Chicago, I'm sure that will help.

The gun violence in Chicago is gang and drug related, not rampage mass murder that we are discussing.

True, you don't want to talk about the majority of killing in America, just one segment because it fits your agenda. Got it, you don't want a solution, you want to blame.

 

[jc456]

America has had guns since the forming of the country. Mass shootings started around the late 1980’s. Something changed in that time frame. Canada has racism issues as does Sweden and every other nation. The difference is the media attention on the United States. My advice to you is don’t come into the United States.

Canada is now experiencing increased gun crime.....they had a mass shooting a year or so ago, so as their welfare state increases fatherless homes, their mass shooting rate will likely go up.

They need to build a wall between them and us. That will help keep guns and illegals out.

Canada, unlike United State, recorded only three mass shootings between 2000 and 2014.

Can somebody post hos many we had during that time?

why three?

Is three less than what the US had during that time?

so, not clear your point. so you brag about gun laws that actually don't work, you just proved it, you said three of them. if there is one it's too many, the fact three is a wave of a hand tells me who you really are.

 

[otto105]

Says the purported gun dealer.

The AR15 the Ohio shooter was carrying, killed or injured nearly 30 people in 30 seconds before the police shot him in a hail of bullets. This rifle is sold with advertising it's ability to take out multiple targets quickly with maximum internal damage. This is the preferred weapon of mass shooters everywhere. A gun with no reasonable value except to raise the body count.

Other countries have a tradition of hunting too. Canada also has a tradition of retail hunting and fishing. Rich people flying in to hunt tropies, although many of the trophy species are now facing extinction, like Grizzlies, and polar bears. Restrictions on gun ownership and people killing weapons and handguns have done NOTHING to curb legitmate hunters or the industries built around them in other countries.

My husband's family owns a huge hunting camp near Huntsville, which they bought more than 50 years ago, which sleeps 60. There's a big shindig there at the end of every deer season. One of my brothers went deer hunting for two weeks every year, throughout his adult life. I've enjoyed moose and deer, killed by family members. One of my Toronto neighbours went duck hunting every fall. The Lake Erie community where I now live is on the duck migration route, and hunters are currently spiffing up their blinds.

If gun ownership made people safer, then the USA wouldn't be the most dangerous country in the first world. It would be the safest.

ARs and the like are least of this country’s worry’s, Cars, alcohol, lawn mowers, bath tubs, hammers, knives, etc. All have higher body counts then people using ARs.
None of which are an right like firearm ownership is.
It’s American thing you obviously don’t understand... lol

Post the source of this so-called data.

Use the Google... lol

Out of the millions of ARs owned legally by Americans what is percentage of them are used in Violent crime?
Basically a percentage off of an percentage at best... Cars for instance kill far more people. And vehicle ownership is not even an right, it a privilege. Firearm ownership is an absolute right less someone fucks it up for themselves.

Like I said political correctness makes people fucking retarded.

Guns are supposed to defend people, not the other way around. The NRA used to be about gun safety and training. Now it's a lobby for gun manufacturers.

Out of the millions of AR's sold to the American public, it doesn't matter what percentage of them are used in mass murders, it's that all of the mass shooters are using this particular weapon to increase their body counts. One is too many.

35,000 gun deaths every single year. What's the point of spending all of that money on a weapon if you don't get to use it? 1000 children every single year. No other first world nation faces this level of carnage.

I know a guy that owns over 100 cars, he drives only two or three. I used to own millions on baseball cards. They are called collections, people have them because they bring them joy. The largest collection of guns is over 66,000 and is in the Los Angeles area, they are used as props for movies, you know the movies that don't promote violence of any kind. A selection of their guns are in an NRA museum.

Are you advocating for movie violence censorship?

 

[otto105]

Canada is now experiencing increased gun crime.....they had a mass shooting a year or so ago, so as their welfare state increases fatherless homes, their mass shooting rate will likely go up.

They need to build a wall between them and us. That will help keep guns and illegals out.

Canada, unlike United State, recorded only three mass shootings between 2000 and 2014.

Can somebody post hos many we had during that time?

why three?

Is three less than what the US had during that time?

so, not clear your point. so you brag about gun laws that actually don't work, you just proved it, you said three of them. if there is one it's too many, the fact three is a wave of a hand tells me who you really are.

If gun laws in Canada controlled rampage shootings to just three in 14 years, I say write them into law here. Shows they're effective.