So, we find out Jane Roe was paid to lie about her pro-life stance

[BWK]

Is that like Obama lying to us about Obamacare? Or is that like Crooked Hillary lying to us about Benghazi?

Don't know? If you can't prove the lies, then what comparison are you making?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

A right to privacy doesn’t give someone the right to kill an unborn child.

If men were “controlling” women’s bodies then they could force her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want one. When has that been put into law? Oh it hasn’t, so all this talk about “controlling women’s bodies” is BS.

Abortion is not "killing an unborn child. There are already criminal laws on the books that make forrcing a person to have an abortion illegal. They cover lots of criminal behavior, not just this. The politicians who pass laws that attempt to impede a woman from exercising her choice of whether or not to continue a pregnancy absolutely are attempts to control women's bodies. There is no denying this. It's big government in cahoots with some religious sects.

Killing a human being is illegal. You’re in denial of scientific fact, the fetus is a living human being, with unique DNA.

Show us the science that proves it is a fully developed human.

Show us the science that proves an acorn is a fully developed oak tree.

On a molecular level a fetus is a stage of human development in the same way an acorn is a stage of oak tree development.

To be honest would be to admit that a fetus is a human and you are okay with killing it. Anything else is semantic manipulation to avoid guilt.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Her best friend says it’s not true.

I'm ashamed I took the LEFT'S bait on this without even considering that they were LYING! I Should have known better!

"Shameful fake news would have us believe that Norma McCorvey was a mercenary. Nothing could be further from the truth," she said. "For those of us who knew and loved Norma, we know that at the end, Norma loved God, and Norma loved life.

"Fake news baited and switched on Norma just before her death," King continued. "According to the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, Norma wrote to him saying that she'd been booked for an interview for 'AKA Jane Roe.' Norma was so excited; they promised to let her tell her story; and told her they would pay her for it. From my personal perspective, they interviewed Norma and took her words out of context."

She added, "Norma McCorvey's conversion to Christianity in 1995 led her to become one of the most devoted pro-life advocates of our times. Her pro-life testimony is truly a gift of love."

Fox News reached out to Fr. Pavone and he stood by King's claims. He said Norma was like a sibling to him and was prone to emotional mood swings due to trauma from her past. However, he maintained that she never lost her foundational beliefs in God or lost sight of the moral implications of abortion.

"I spoke to her almost every day," he told Fox News. "I became like a close brother to her for 22 years. I was her main guide in her process of healing and her involvement in the pro-life movement. We worked together professionally and we became personal friends. We knew everything about Norma. She was completely transparent with me."

Pavone also said the idea that McCorvey's statement was a "deathbed" confession is another falsity, being peddled by a biased media. He claims to have text messages from her, during the time of the film's production, to support his story

Dr. Alveda King: Claim that 'Jane Roe' was paid to join pro-life cause is false

Evangelist Dr. Alveda King weighed in on the controversy surrounding the alleged deathbed confession of Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe), in an interview with Fox News on Thursday and said the idea of her acting as a hired gun or paid "mercenary" for the Christian right is a complete falsehood.

www.google.com

Her best friend didn't testify. Losing argument.

What is your EVIDENCE that this nonsense is now true?

As she was dying in 2017, she flipped again, saying it was all an act, according to the documentary and first reported by the Los Angeles Times.

What is it with Republicans and common sense logic? Are they that stupid? Must be. She was paid. That's the bottom line. It doesn't matter how many times she flips. She may have flipped ten times for all we know. She got paid to lie. That's how you lose.

She was paid originally to bring the lawsuit in the first place.

 

[SourKat]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

You do know that liars lie about their lies, donchya'?

You do know that money talks too right? Besides, she lost, and still to this day no one on the pro-life side has ever made an intelligent argument, while some commit murder at clinics.

Another thing, why confess on your death bed about a lie you told years ago, if it wasn't really a lie? Telling the truth gets her nothing, but telling the truth. Your attempt at fixing this must be in your head, because no one stupid enough would even buy that line.

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Imagine, a communist trying to sit on a soap box. Slippery isn't it?

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

I recorded the movie and watched it today.

Wow.

Even the anti choice jerk admitted that it was all a scam. He admitted that he used her. He even said a woman has the right to choose.

She lied the whole time.

They used her and she used them.

Wow.

All of the anti choice people have been scammed and manipulated. Just as I've been saying all these years.

They aren't pro life. They have never been pro life.

They have always hated women and always wanted to punish women for having sex. While having no problem with men having sex, making a woman pregnant then walking away without even looking back to see what he has done.

We see it on this board all the time. The woman is a slut or whore. Yet they have no problem with what they consider a slut or whore raising a child.

The fact that they do all they can to prevent women from having contraceptives, from having any health care, no living wage, no reliable child care and no job security screams it's not about life to those people. They don't give one damn about any life. It's all about making themselves feel superior and punishing women for having sex.

Remember when he said the gig was up? That was priceless. The pro-life folks boxed themselves in with payoffs, ignorance of science, and their false claims about the sanctity of life. They're pro-birth. They could give two shits about life. Look at how they are so eager to sacrifice others to Corona. They make you want to puke.
[/QUOT

Talk about cognitive dissonance

 

[BWK]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

A right to privacy doesn’t give someone the right to kill an unborn child.

If men were “controlling” women’s bodies then they could force her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want one. When has that been put into law? Oh it hasn’t, so all this talk about “controlling women’s bodies” is BS.

Ignorant nonsense.

Murder concerns criminal law; the right to privacy civil law – one having nothing to do with the other.

It is neither the role nor responsibility of government to dictate to a woman whether she may have a child or not; the right to privacy safeguards citizens from government excess and overreach with regard to such personal decisions.

Look, I'm running out of medals. Time for you to be on the payroll like Roe. Except your job is telling the truth and destroying their arguments. Which you have been doing.

 

[BWK]

Her best friend says it’s not true.

I'm ashamed I took the LEFT'S bait on this without even considering that they were LYING! I Should have known better!

"Shameful fake news would have us believe that Norma McCorvey was a mercenary. Nothing could be further from the truth," she said. "For those of us who knew and loved Norma, we know that at the end, Norma loved God, and Norma loved life.

"Fake news baited and switched on Norma just before her death," King continued. "According to the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, Norma wrote to him saying that she'd been booked for an interview for 'AKA Jane Roe.' Norma was so excited; they promised to let her tell her story; and told her they would pay her for it. From my personal perspective, they interviewed Norma and took her words out of context."

She added, "Norma McCorvey's conversion to Christianity in 1995 led her to become one of the most devoted pro-life advocates of our times. Her pro-life testimony is truly a gift of love."

Fox News reached out to Fr. Pavone and he stood by King's claims. He said Norma was like a sibling to him and was prone to emotional mood swings due to trauma from her past. However, he maintained that she never lost her foundational beliefs in God or lost sight of the moral implications of abortion.

"I spoke to her almost every day," he told Fox News. "I became like a close brother to her for 22 years. I was her main guide in her process of healing and her involvement in the pro-life movement. We worked together professionally and we became personal friends. We knew everything about Norma. She was completely transparent with me."

Pavone also said the idea that McCorvey's statement was a "deathbed" confession is another falsity, being peddled by a biased media. He claims to have text messages from her, during the time of the film's production, to support his story

Dr. Alveda King: Claim that 'Jane Roe' was paid to join pro-life cause is false

Evangelist Dr. Alveda King weighed in on the controversy surrounding the alleged deathbed confession of Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe), in an interview with Fox News on Thursday and said the idea of her acting as a hired gun or paid "mercenary" for the Christian right is a complete falsehood.

www.google.com

Her best friend didn't testify. Losing argument.

What is your EVIDENCE that this nonsense is now true?

As she was dying in 2017, she flipped again, saying it was all an act, according to the documentary and first reported by the Los Angeles Times.

What is it with Republicans and common sense logic? Are they that stupid? Must be. She was paid. That's the bottom line. It doesn't matter how many times she flips. She may have flipped ten times for all we know. She got paid to lie. That's how you lose.

She was paid originally to bring the lawsuit in the first place.

That's why they call it getting paid. Do you think that changes anything? Let me help you out. No it doesn't.

 

[BWK]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

You do know that liars lie about their lies, donchya'?

You do know that money talks too right? Besides, she lost, and still to this day no one on the pro-life side has ever made an intelligent argument, while some commit murder at clinics.

Another thing, why confess on your death bed about a lie you told years ago, if it wasn't really a lie? Telling the truth gets her nothing, but telling the truth. Your attempt at fixing this must be in your head, because no one stupid enough would even buy that line.

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Imagine, a communist trying to sit on a soap box. Slippery isn't it?

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

I recorded the movie and watched it today.

Wow.

Even the anti choice jerk admitted that it was all a scam. He admitted that he used her. He even said a woman has the right to choose.

She lied the whole time.

They used her and she used them.

Wow.

All of the anti choice people have been scammed and manipulated. Just as I've been saying all these years.

They aren't pro life. They have never been pro life.

They have always hated women and always wanted to punish women for having sex. While having no problem with men having sex, making a woman pregnant then walking away without even looking back to see what he has done.

We see it on this board all the time. The woman is a slut or whore. Yet they have no problem with what they consider a slut or whore raising a child.

The fact that they do all they can to prevent women from having contraceptives, from having any health care, no living wage, no reliable child care and no job security screams it's not about life to those people. They don't give one damn about any life. It's all about making themselves feel superior and punishing women for having sex.

Remember when he said the gig was up? That was priceless. The pro-life folks boxed themselves in with payoffs, ignorance of science, and their false claims about the sanctity of life. They're pro-birth. They could give two shits about life. Look at how they are so eager to sacrifice others to Corona. They make you want to puke.
[/QUOT

Talk about cognitive dissonance

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

You do know that liars lie about their lies, donchya'?

You do know that money talks too right? Besides, she lost, and still to this day no one on the pro-life side has ever made an intelligent argument, while some commit murder at clinics.

Another thing, why confess on your death bed about a lie you told years ago, if it wasn't really a lie? Telling the truth gets her nothing, but telling the truth. Your attempt at fixing this must be in your head, because no one stupid enough would even buy that line.

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Imagine, a communist trying to sit on a soap box. Slippery isn't it?

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

I recorded the movie and watched it today.

Wow.

Even the anti choice jerk admitted that it was all a scam. He admitted that he used her. He even said a woman has the right to choose.

She lied the whole time.

They used her and she used them.

Wow.

All of the anti choice people have been scammed and manipulated. Just as I've been saying all these years.

They aren't pro life. They have never been pro life.

They have always hated women and always wanted to punish women for having sex. While having no problem with men having sex, making a woman pregnant then walking away without even looking back to see what he has done.

We see it on this board all the time. The woman is a slut or whore. Yet they have no problem with what they consider a slut or whore raising a child.

The fact that they do all they can to prevent women from having contraceptives, from having any health care, no living wage, no reliable child care and no job security screams it's not about life to those people. They don't give one damn about any life. It's all about making themselves feel superior and punishing women for having sex.

Remember when he said the gig was up? That was priceless. The pro-life folks boxed themselves in with payoffs, ignorance of science, and their false claims about the sanctity of life. They're pro-birth. They could give two shits about life. Look at how they are so eager to sacrifice others to Corona. They make you want to puke.
[/QUOT

Talk about cognitive dissonance

What's even funnier, is your surrender to the argument. I mean seriously, let's face it. You are SOL in that department. Now ain't that funny?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Her best friend says it’s not true.

I'm ashamed I took the LEFT'S bait on this without even considering that they were LYING! I Should have known better!

"Shameful fake news would have us believe that Norma McCorvey was a mercenary. Nothing could be further from the truth," she said. "For those of us who knew and loved Norma, we know that at the end, Norma loved God, and Norma loved life.

"Fake news baited and switched on Norma just before her death," King continued. "According to the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, Norma wrote to him saying that she'd been booked for an interview for 'AKA Jane Roe.' Norma was so excited; they promised to let her tell her story; and told her they would pay her for it. From my personal perspective, they interviewed Norma and took her words out of context."

She added, "Norma McCorvey's conversion to Christianity in 1995 led her to become one of the most devoted pro-life advocates of our times. Her pro-life testimony is truly a gift of love."

Fox News reached out to Fr. Pavone and he stood by King's claims. He said Norma was like a sibling to him and was prone to emotional mood swings due to trauma from her past. However, he maintained that she never lost her foundational beliefs in God or lost sight of the moral implications of abortion.

"I spoke to her almost every day," he told Fox News. "I became like a close brother to her for 22 years. I was her main guide in her process of healing and her involvement in the pro-life movement. We worked together professionally and we became personal friends. We knew everything about Norma. She was completely transparent with me."

Pavone also said the idea that McCorvey's statement was a "deathbed" confession is another falsity, being peddled by a biased media. He claims to have text messages from her, during the time of the film's production, to support his story

Dr. Alveda King: Claim that 'Jane Roe' was paid to join pro-life cause is false

Evangelist Dr. Alveda King weighed in on the controversy surrounding the alleged deathbed confession of Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe), in an interview with Fox News on Thursday and said the idea of her acting as a hired gun or paid "mercenary" for the Christian right is a complete falsehood.

www.google.com

Her best friend didn't testify. Losing argument.

What is your EVIDENCE that this nonsense is now true?

As she was dying in 2017, she flipped again, saying it was all an act, according to the documentary and first reported by the Los Angeles Times.

What is it with Republicans and common sense logic? Are they that stupid? Must be. She was paid. That's the bottom line. It doesn't matter how many times she flips. She may have flipped ten times for all we know. She got paid to lie. That's how you lose.

She was paid originally to bring the lawsuit in the first place.

That's why they call it getting paid. Do you think that changes anything? Let me help you out. No it doesn't.

Nope. If she was paid to bring the lawsuit in the first place and paid to claim a change of heart later it speaks to her character and changes nothing. Not even if it's discovered that her confession was also purchased.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

What is it with Republicans and common sense logic? Are they that stupid? Must be. She was paid. That's the bottom line

I axed for EVIDENCE. Where is it?

 

[BWK]

What is it with Republicans and common sense logic? Are they that stupid? Must be. She was paid. That's the bottom line

I axed for EVIDENCE. Where is it?

Your racism not withstanding of course, it's in her video testimony, and the video admission of the folks who paid her, who confessed to paying her off to lie.

 

[theHawk]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

Nobody ever attempted to control a man’s body? Ever hear of something called slavery? Men have been slaves to other men since the dawn of time. Republicans outlawed that, much to the disdain of Democrats.

Dems liked to dehumanize humans for their own agenda. They did it with slavery, and now they do it with unborn children, claiming they aren’t “real people” or even humans (denying science as usual).

Then show us the science. No one has done it yet.

The fetus has its own unique DNA, human DNA. Unless you are going to argue it is a different species.

 

[BWK]

Her best friend says it’s not true.

I'm ashamed I took the LEFT'S bait on this without even considering that they were LYING! I Should have known better!

"Shameful fake news would have us believe that Norma McCorvey was a mercenary. Nothing could be further from the truth," she said. "For those of us who knew and loved Norma, we know that at the end, Norma loved God, and Norma loved life.

"Fake news baited and switched on Norma just before her death," King continued. "According to the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, Norma wrote to him saying that she'd been booked for an interview for 'AKA Jane Roe.' Norma was so excited; they promised to let her tell her story; and told her they would pay her for it. From my personal perspective, they interviewed Norma and took her words out of context."

She added, "Norma McCorvey's conversion to Christianity in 1995 led her to become one of the most devoted pro-life advocates of our times. Her pro-life testimony is truly a gift of love."

Fox News reached out to Fr. Pavone and he stood by King's claims. He said Norma was like a sibling to him and was prone to emotional mood swings due to trauma from her past. However, he maintained that she never lost her foundational beliefs in God or lost sight of the moral implications of abortion.

"I spoke to her almost every day," he told Fox News. "I became like a close brother to her for 22 years. I was her main guide in her process of healing and her involvement in the pro-life movement. We worked together professionally and we became personal friends. We knew everything about Norma. She was completely transparent with me."

Pavone also said the idea that McCorvey's statement was a "deathbed" confession is another falsity, being peddled by a biased media. He claims to have text messages from her, during the time of the film's production, to support his story

Dr. Alveda King: Claim that 'Jane Roe' was paid to join pro-life cause is false

Evangelist Dr. Alveda King weighed in on the controversy surrounding the alleged deathbed confession of Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe), in an interview with Fox News on Thursday and said the idea of her acting as a hired gun or paid "mercenary" for the Christian right is a complete falsehood.

www.google.com

Her best friend didn't testify. Losing argument.

What is your EVIDENCE that this nonsense is now true?

As she was dying in 2017, she flipped again, saying it was all an act, according to the documentary and first reported by the Los Angeles Times.

What is it with Republicans and common sense logic? Are they that stupid? Must be. She was paid. That's the bottom line. It doesn't matter how many times she flips. She may have flipped ten times for all we know. She got paid to lie. That's how you lose.

She was paid originally to bring the lawsuit in the first place.

That's why they call it getting paid. Do you think that changes anything? Let me help you out. No it doesn't.

Nope. If she was paid to bring the lawsuit in the first place and paid to claim a change of heart later it speaks to her character and changes nothing. Not even if it's discovered that her confession was also purchased.

How do you know she was paid a change of heart? And if she was, so what? The law suit that was filed is what counts, and she lost. The confession does nothing but solidify the failure of the law suit to begin with. If she was paid to lie, and lost, that just tells us there never was a case. Without science backing her up, lie or no lie, she couldn't win. The lie she made was as idiotic as the case itself.

 

[theHawk]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

A right to privacy doesn’t give someone the right to kill an unborn child.

If men were “controlling” women’s bodies then they could force her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want one. When has that been put into law? Oh it hasn’t, so all this talk about “controlling women’s bodies” is BS.

Ignorant nonsense.

Murder concerns criminal law; the right to privacy civil law – one having nothing to do with the other.

It is neither the role nor responsibility of government to dictate to a woman whether she may have a child or not; the right to privacy safeguards citizens from government excess and overreach with regard to such personal decisions.

Again, no one is forcing a woman to have an abortion, although far leftwing states like China do. Interesting how you people defend China with their forced abortions yet claim you are against government dictating to women if they can have children. Which means you are all full of shit.

Outlawing the killing of human life isn’t anymore of an “overreach” of government than government outlawing rape.

 

[BWK]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

Nobody ever attempted to control a man’s body? Ever hear of something called slavery? Men have been slaves to other men since the dawn of time. Republicans outlawed that, much to the disdain of Democrats.

Dems liked to dehumanize humans for their own agenda. They did it with slavery, and now they do it with unborn children, claiming they aren’t “real people” or even humans (denying science as usual).

Then show us the science. No one has done it yet.

The fetus has its own unique DNA, human DNA. Unless you are going to argue it is a different species.

An undeveloped fetus is not a fully developed human being. Science already knows this. A unique DNA, is not a fully developed organism. That's the bottom line. You can spin yourself around until the end of time, and that reality will never change.

 

[theHawk]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

Nobody ever attempted to control a man’s body? Ever hear of something called slavery? Men have been slaves to other men since the dawn of time. Republicans outlawed that, much to the disdain of Democrats.

Dems liked to dehumanize humans for their own agenda. They did it with slavery, and now they do it with unborn children, claiming they aren’t “real people” or even humans (denying science as usual).

Then show us the science. No one has done it yet.

The fetus has its own unique DNA, human DNA. Unless you are going to argue it is a different species.

An undeveloped fetus is not a fully developed human being. Science already knows this. A unique DNA, is not a fully developed organism. That's the bottom line. You can spin yourself around until the end of time, and that reality will never change.

A newborn baby isn’t a fully developed human being. Does that mean it’s okay to kill one?

 

[BWK]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

A right to privacy doesn’t give someone the right to kill an unborn child.

If men were “controlling” women’s bodies then they could force her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want one. When has that been put into law? Oh it hasn’t, so all this talk about “controlling women’s bodies” is BS.

Ignorant nonsense.

Murder concerns criminal law; the right to privacy civil law – one having nothing to do with the other.

It is neither the role nor responsibility of government to dictate to a woman whether she may have a child or not; the right to privacy safeguards citizens from government excess and overreach with regard to such personal decisions.

Again, no one is forcing a woman to have an abortion, although far leftwing states like China do. Interesting how you people defend China with their forced abortions yet claim you are against government dictating to women if they can have children. Which means you are all full of shit.

Outlawing the killing of human life isn’t anymore of an “overreach” of government anymore than government outlawing rape.

Again, you keep circle jerking over your same failed argument. You still fail to prove anyone is killing a fully developed human being. Why? Because there is no known science out there that identifies a fully developed human being with a functioning brain that uses reason in the womb. Keep circle jerking and you will always go back to where you started.

 

[theHawk]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

A right to privacy doesn’t give someone the right to kill an unborn child.

If men were “controlling” women’s bodies then they could force her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want one. When has that been put into law? Oh it hasn’t, so all this talk about “controlling women’s bodies” is BS.

Ignorant nonsense.

Murder concerns criminal law; the right to privacy civil law – one having nothing to do with the other.

It is neither the role nor responsibility of government to dictate to a woman whether she may have a child or not; the right to privacy safeguards citizens from government excess and overreach with regard to such personal decisions.

Again, no one is forcing a woman to have an abortion, although far leftwing states like China do. Interesting how you people defend China with their forced abortions yet claim you are against government dictating to women if they can have children. Which means you are all full of shit.

Outlawing the killing of human life isn’t anymore of an “overreach” of government anymore than government outlawing rape.

Again, you keep circle jerking over your same failed argument. You still fail to prove anyone is killing a fully developed human being. Why? Because there is no known science out there that identifies a fully developed human being with a functioning brain that uses reason in the womb. Keep circle jerking and you will always go back to where you started.

Really? Yet you can’t explain why killing a newborn is illegal when it isn’t a “fully developed” human being.

 

[Dana7360]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

I recorded the movie and watched it today.

Wow.

Even the anti choice jerk admitted that it was all a scam. He admitted that he used her. He even said a woman has the right to choose.

She lied the whole time.

They used her and she used them.

Wow.

All of the anti choice people have been scammed and manipulated. Just as I've been saying all these years.

They aren't pro life. They have never been pro life.

They have always hated women and always wanted to punish women for having sex. While having no problem with men having sex, making a woman pregnant then walking away without even looking back to see what he has done.

We see it on this board all the time. The woman is a slut or whore. Yet they have no problem with what they consider a slut or whore raising a child.

The fact that they do all they can to prevent women from having contraceptives, from having any health care, no living wage, no reliable child care and no job security screams it's not about life to those people. They don't give one damn about any life. It's all about making themselves feel superior and punishing women for having sex.

Remember when he said the gig was up? That was priceless. The pro-life folks boxed themselves in with payoffs, ignorance of science, and their false claims about the sanctity of life. They're pro-birth. They could give two shits about life. Look at how they are so eager to sacrifice others to Corona. They make you want to puke.

Yes I remember. I was floored. How he could say that so casually.

All the people who are hurt. All the people they murdered. All the people they scammed money from. All the lives they destroyed.

All the lies and deceptions.

It's all sickening. They are seriously disgusting human beings.

 

[BWK]

Documentary reveals 'Jane Roe' of Roe V. Wade was paid to reverse abortion stance

Norma McCorvey, known for years as Jane Roe the plaintiff from one of the most famous Supreme Court cases in history: Roe v. Wade, reveals that she was paid to reverse her stance from pro-choice to anti-abortion by Operation Rescue, now known as Operation Save America, according to a new...

www.msnbc.com

Well now, that changes everything. So no one on the pro-life side ever had anyone to really represent them during Roe vs. Wade. That explains everything. That just means the pro-life argument has been bs from the beginning. And it still is. They knew way back then they would never be able to prove the pro-life argument from a scientific point of view, so they up and paid someone to lie about it, with their instructions. These are such disgusting people. And look at the people these pro-life nuts murdered because of lies and payoffs.

The pro-life argument was BS from the beginning?

The entire premise of the decision on Roe v Wade was this purely invented “right to privacy”.

Rehnquist said it best:
To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today.

Obviously you've never read the 4th amendment.

It very clearly says we have the right to our person or body. Which is what Roe V Wade was decided on. The right to privacy with our body.

The part of the 4th amendment that it was decided on:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated


So what you're saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to women.

Men do get the right to privacy with their body. I have never seen anyone try to pass legislation that prohibits any man from having any medical procedure they want. Nor do they have to go through a waiting period or have to sit through propaganda they don't believe that it's only purpose is to convince them to not have the procedure. Nor do they have to have a totally medically unnecessary probe test which neither he or the doctor wants which he has to pay 100%. I don't see clinics for men being bombed or harassed or people screaming for the man to not go in. I don't see legislatures writing regulations specifically designed to close medical facilities for men.

I have never seen anyone protest to protect a man's right to privacy with their body. Or any thing else for that matter.

Who do you think you are? What makes you think you have any right to say you can take someone's rights from them and violate the constitution?

You don't. Plus, no one gives a rat's ass what you think and want.

If you work and pay taxes, work hard. Pay those taxes. Women need that money to pay for their contraception and for abortions. If you pay federal or state taxes, you're paying for abortions and contraception for women. I hope I that totally pisses you off.

Yup. Nobody ever attempted to violate a male's right to sovereignty over his body. But the anti-choice folks seem to think that women are public property, not people with rights under the Constitution. They also never protest the funding of "ED" medications for men who are not attempting to conceive a child and maybe are having sex with women who are too old to conceive. The sex that they want to have is purely recreational. Where is the scrutiny of this?

Nobody ever attempted to control a man’s body? Ever hear of something called slavery? Men have been slaves to other men since the dawn of time. Republicans outlawed that, much to the disdain of Democrats.

Dems liked to dehumanize humans for their own agenda. They did it with slavery, and now they do it with unborn children, claiming they aren’t “real people” or even humans (denying science as usual).

Then show us the science. No one has done it yet.

The fetus has its own unique DNA, human DNA. Unless you are going to argue it is a different species.

An undeveloped fetus is not a fully developed human being. Science already knows this. A unique DNA, is not a fully developed organism. That's the bottom line. You can spin yourself around until the end of time, and that reality will never change.

A newborn baby isn’t a fully developed human being. Does that mean it’s okay to kill one?

Really? How do you know? It responds to stimulus. It responds to breast milk.It responds to spanking. It didn't do that in the womb. So there you go. You cannot argue the science, because you have no argument.

 

[whitehall]

Clearly Jane Roe couldn't afford to take a case clear to the Supreme Court. Who paid for her legal costs, Planned Parenthood?