So what's the laundry list of free shit Obama is gonna dangle in front of all the leeches tonight?

[Conservative65]

College tuition is being priced out of reach for more and more people.

The Right will say, "There is no problem."

The Left will say, "Tax the rich more."

We are surrounded by retards.

And what would you say? I say education is not the answer. Know why? Because this country is always going to have ditch diggers, factory workers, maids, walmart employees, mcD workers, etc.

What made the American middle class the greatest class the world had ever seen? Unions. High paying jobs. Sick days. Great insurance. Holiday pay. Pensions. GREAT JOBS for the masses.

It is unrealistic to say education is the key. Put everyone though nursing school, next thing you know the market is flooded with nurses and nurses then make $30K a year.

I say pay the middle class a living/decent/fair wage. My dad worked for Ford Motor Company. He has a Pension, SS, hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank and 2 homes. He never made more than $11 hr but that was good money back then. Especially when his insurance was so great. Get sick? It cost us $5 to go to the emergency room.

I know what will make America great again. But the rich and the GOP and conservatives won't like it. They'll call me a socialist commy pig. But the bottom line is, just pay your employees more.

Ever hear the story of Carl who graduated highschool and started making $17hr shoveling coal in the graveyard shift at a union factory somewhere in Michigan? That's a low skilled job. Why did he make so much? Because he was in a union. The smartest guys I know were in unions because they were at least smart enough to demand a fair wage and share of the profits.

The days of growing up to work in the same factory as your daddy are long gone. We have to educate our kids for the jobs of tomorrow, not for low skilled shit.

Cars used to be leading edge tech. Now they aren't. We've moved on way beyond that. Robots and third worlders do that shit now.

You say unions made us strong. That's true, to a point. But I guess you have not noticed the highest paying jobs in America, the ones in high tech fields, are almost all non-union jobs. You know why?

Because those skills are so scarce that an educated person can pretty much write their own ticket. They are marketable.

Meanwhile the low skilled jobs are going overseas, where they belong.

It wasn't unions that made us the number one economy. It was our technological edge. It wasn't low skilled jobs. It was the exact opposite of that. It was innovation and the entrepreneurial spirit which made us number one.

Unions came about because our national economy went through a transition from one in which everyone was their own boss to one which was organized around corporations with wage workers at the bottom and owners and shareholders at the top.

This protectionist bullshit for low skilled jobs is killing us. We need to maintain our edge, and that means education in the right skills. High tech skills. Tomorrow's skills.

And that means more education than ever before. We aren't even keeping up, much less staying ahead!

You can work on an automotive assembly line, if you wish. But you are retarded if you think you deserve more than $20 bucks an hour to do it. I'll be surprised if we are still making cars in America in 20 years.

Yeah, we had some that went up to Detroit a few years back and made $20.00 per hour installing tires on new cars. When Detroit went by the wayside, they came back home and had to take minimum wage jobs because the local area had no jobs for tire installers that paid more than minimum wage.

While I don't think a tire installer should make minimum wage, one damn sure shouldn't make $20/hour doing it. It takes some training but it isn't rocket science.

 

[the_human_being]

But that's the point. It IS available to the masses. FASFA loans are never denied...EXCEPT to the applicants with ultra wealthy parents. And the cost for a community college or a state school locally, where you don't need room and board is, here in NY, about 5K a year......
And I have news for you.....if one can afford college it does not mean he/she doesn't need college to get ahead. That is a ridiculous partisan talking point that has absolutely no validity.

Student loans can cripple a middle class family, delay the purchase of a house, effect a credit score and generally hold back a graduate under a mountain of debt for years.


Why not make something like putting a kid through college just a little bit easier?

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

pay high end wages to union drones, appease Republicans, build Keystone Pipeline.

why would YOU want to contribute to a UNION? That's the question.

Yeah, build the pipeline. Obama's own CBO said it would create 42,000 good paying jobs.

 

[the_human_being]

College tuition is being priced out of reach for more and more people.

The Right will say, "There is no problem."

The Left will say, "Tax the rich more."

We are surrounded by retards.

And what would you say? I say education is not the answer. Know why? Because this country is always going to have ditch diggers, factory workers, maids, walmart employees, mcD workers, etc.

What made the American middle class the greatest class the world had ever seen? Unions. High paying jobs. Sick days. Great insurance. Holiday pay. Pensions. GREAT JOBS for the masses.

It is unrealistic to say education is the key. Put everyone though nursing school, next thing you know the market is flooded with nurses and nurses then make $30K a year.

I say pay the middle class a living/decent/fair wage. My dad worked for Ford Motor Company. He has a Pension, SS, hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank and 2 homes. He never made more than $11 hr but that was good money back then. Especially when his insurance was so great. Get sick? It cost us $5 to go to the emergency room.

I know what will make America great again. But the rich and the GOP and conservatives won't like it. They'll call me a socialist commy pig. But the bottom line is, just pay your employees more.

Ever hear the story of Carl who graduated highschool and started making $17hr shoveling coal in the graveyard shift at a union factory somewhere in Michigan? That's a low skilled job. Why did he make so much? Because he was in a union. The smartest guys I know were in unions because they were at least smart enough to demand a fair wage and share of the profits.

The days of growing up to work in the same factory as your daddy are long gone. We have to educate our kids for the jobs of tomorrow, not for low skilled shit.

Cars used to be leading edge tech. Now they aren't. We've moved on way beyond that. Robots and third worlders do that shit now.

You say unions made us strong. That's true, to a point. But I guess you have not noticed the highest paying jobs in America, the ones in high tech fields, are almost all non-union jobs. You know why?

Because those skills are so scarce that an educated person can pretty much write their own ticket. They are marketable.

Meanwhile the low skilled jobs are going overseas, where they belong.

It wasn't unions that made us the number one economy. It was our technological edge. It wasn't low skilled jobs. It was the exact opposite of that. It was innovation and the entrepreneurial spirit which made us number one.

Unions came about because our national economy went through a transition from one in which everyone was their own boss to one which was organized around corporations with wage workers at the bottom and owners and shareholders at the top.

This protectionist bullshit for low skilled jobs is killing us. We need to maintain our edge, and that means education in the right skills. High tech skills. Tomorrow's skills.

And that means more education than ever before. We aren't even keeping up, much less staying ahead!

You can work on an automotive assembly line, if you wish. But you are retarded if you think you deserve more than $20 bucks an hour to do it. I'll be surprised if we are still making cars in America in 20 years.

Yeah, we had some that went up to Detroit a few years back and made $20.00 per hour installing tires on new cars. When Detroit went by the wayside, they came back home and had to take minimum wage jobs because the local area had no jobs for tire installers that paid more than minimum wage.

While I don't think a tire installer should make minimum wage, one damn sure shouldn't make $20/hour doing it. It takes some training but it isn't rocket science.

Well, I could repair and mount a tire on a car when I was twelve. Go figure.

 

[ClosedCaption]

So then genius why are wages behind the rate of inflation nationwide?

Btw...Nationwide includes millions of people.

Low skill? Lol

 

[Conservative65]

College tuition is being priced out of reach for more and more people.

The Right will say, "There is no problem."

The Left will say, "Tax the rich more."

We are surrounded by retards.

And what would you say? I say education is not the answer. Know why? Because this country is always going to have ditch diggers, factory workers, maids, walmart employees, mcD workers, etc.

What made the American middle class the greatest class the world had ever seen? Unions. High paying jobs. Sick days. Great insurance. Holiday pay. Pensions. GREAT JOBS for the masses.

It is unrealistic to say education is the key. Put everyone though nursing school, next thing you know the market is flooded with nurses and nurses then make $30K a year.

I say pay the middle class a living/decent/fair wage. My dad worked for Ford Motor Company. He has a Pension, SS, hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank and 2 homes. He never made more than $11 hr but that was good money back then. Especially when his insurance was so great. Get sick? It cost us $5 to go to the emergency room.

I know what will make America great again. But the rich and the GOP and conservatives won't like it. They'll call me a socialist commy pig. But the bottom line is, just pay your employees more.

Ever hear the story of Carl who graduated highschool and started making $17hr shoveling coal in the graveyard shift at a union factory somewhere in Michigan? That's a low skilled job. Why did he make so much? Because he was in a union. The smartest guys I know were in unions because they were at least smart enough to demand a fair wage and share of the profits.

The days of growing up to work in the same factory as your daddy are long gone. We have to educate our kids for the jobs of tomorrow, not for low skilled shit.

Cars used to be leading edge tech. Now they aren't. We've moved on way beyond that. Robots and third worlders do that shit now.

You say unions made us strong. That's true, to a point. But I guess you have not noticed the highest paying jobs in America, the ones in high tech fields, are almost all non-union jobs. You know why?

Because those skills are so scarce that an educated person can pretty much write their own ticket. They are marketable.

Meanwhile the low skilled jobs are going overseas, where they belong.

It wasn't unions that made us the number one economy. It was our technological edge. It wasn't low skilled jobs. It was the exact opposite of that. It was innovation and the entrepreneurial spirit which made us number one.

Unions came about because our national economy went through a transition from one in which everyone was their own boss to one which was organized around corporations with wage workers at the bottom and owners and shareholders at the top.

This protectionist bullshit for low skilled jobs is killing us. We need to maintain our edge, and that means education in the right skills. High tech skills. Tomorrow's skills.

And that means more education than ever before. We aren't even keeping up, much less staying ahead!

You can work on an automotive assembly line, if you wish. But you are retarded if you think you deserve more than $20 bucks an hour to do it. I'll be surprised if we are still making cars in America in 20 years.

Yeah, we had some that went up to Detroit a few years back and made $20.00 per hour installing tires on new cars. When Detroit went by the wayside, they came back home and had to take minimum wage jobs because the local area had no jobs for tire installers that paid more than minimum wage.

While I don't think a tire installer should make minimum wage, one damn sure shouldn't make $20/hour doing it. It takes some training but it isn't rocket science.

Well, I could repair and mount a tire on a car when I was twelve. Go figure.

It falls in the same category as learning the phrase "do you want fries with that".

 

[Pheonixops]

Student loans can cripple a middle class family, delay the purchase of a house, effect a credit score and generally hold back a graduate under a mountain of debt for years.


Why not make something like putting a kid through college just a little bit easier?

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

pay high end wages to union drones, appease Republicans, build Keystone Pipeline.

why would YOU want to contribute to a UNION? That's the question.

Yeah, build the pipeline. Obama's own CBO said it would create 42,000 good paying jobs.

I like the idea of the pipeline, I wonder how many of barrels of oil are projected to pass through it? What will the Saudi response be, will they lower production to make oil more scarce and thus fuel prices will rise? Will the creation of the Keystone pipeline counteract that in a timely manner so it offsets the Saudi cut in production? Can the Saudis afford to play that game?

 

[Conservative65]

Why is it always all or nothing with you guys?
Plenty of people have access to higher education. Sure, they must sacrifice, and some have very little to sacrifice as it is....but there are grants, scholarships and low interest loans.
But one thing I know for sure...If I were to sacrifice for something, I would hold that thing dear to me...it would be important to me.

Sure. Pride in ownership.

But the cost of a higher education is prohibitive in most homes, unless you're fortunate enough to be in the top 5% of incomes (and that's not where EARNERS are, it's where trust fund babies and hedge fund managers are)

Shouldn't one of life's necessities be just a little more accessible to the masses? After all, if you can afford college, you probably don't need college to get ahead.

But that's the point. It IS available to the masses. FASFA loans are never denied...EXCEPT to the applicants with ultra wealthy parents. And the cost for a community college or a state school locally, where you don't need room and board is, here in NY, about 5K a year......
And I have news for you.....if one can afford college it does not mean he/she doesn't need college to get ahead. That is a ridiculous partisan talking point that has absolutely no validity.

Student loans can cripple a middle class family, delay the purchase of a house, effect a credit score and generally hold back a graduate under a mountain of debt for years.


Why not make something like putting a kid through college just a little bit easier?

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

I've seen what more and more money has done. We have students coming out of high school with a diploma that can't read but on a 6th - 7th grade level. Many that go to college are taking remedial classes. I don't know about the STATE university you went to but someone needing remedial classes wouldn't have been accepted where I went.

What you say all sounds good on paper.

Helping me in my time of dire financial circumstances? Hey State college graduate, I will retire in less than 2 years at the ripe old age of 51.

 

[Conservative65]

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

pay high end wages to union drones, appease Republicans, build Keystone Pipeline.

why would YOU want to contribute to a UNION? That's the question.

Yeah, build the pipeline. Obama's own CBO said it would create 42,000 good paying jobs.

I like the idea of the pipeline, I wonder how many of barrels of oil are projected to pass through it? What will the Saudi response be, will they lower production to make oil more scarce and thus fuel prices will rise? Will the creation of the Keystone pipeline counteract that in a timely manner so it offsets the Saudi cut in production? Can the Saudis afford to play that game?

The price of oil we buy is based more on politics than anything else.

 

[Nosmo King]

Sure. Pride in ownership.

But the cost of a higher education is prohibitive in most homes, unless you're fortunate enough to be in the top 5% of incomes (and that's not where EARNERS are, it's where trust fund babies and hedge fund managers are)

Shouldn't one of life's necessities be just a little more accessible to the masses? After all, if you can afford college, you probably don't need college to get ahead.

But that's the point. It IS available to the masses. FASFA loans are never denied...EXCEPT to the applicants with ultra wealthy parents. And the cost for a community college or a state school locally, where you don't need room and board is, here in NY, about 5K a year......
And I have news for you.....if one can afford college it does not mean he/she doesn't need college to get ahead. That is a ridiculous partisan talking point that has absolutely no validity.

Student loans can cripple a middle class family, delay the purchase of a house, effect a credit score and generally hold back a graduate under a mountain of debt for years.


Why not make something like putting a kid through college just a little bit easier?

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

No, I'm not whiling for the NEA. I'm asking a simple question. Are Conservatives opposed to tuition breaks as a problem because they cost too much, because they will somehow disenfranchise the student from his earned degree because it was free or a little cheaper, or because they cannot imagine living in a land with more people holding degrees?

It has to be one of those reasons. Those are the reasons offered here in this thread.

This isn't public school funding (unfortunately. Our public schools should be palaces of learning), it's an investment in the future for the American workforce.

 

[The Rabbi]

But that's the point. It IS available to the masses. FASFA loans are never denied...EXCEPT to the applicants with ultra wealthy parents. And the cost for a community college or a state school locally, where you don't need room and board is, here in NY, about 5K a year......
And I have news for you.....if one can afford college it does not mean he/she doesn't need college to get ahead. That is a ridiculous partisan talking point that has absolutely no validity.

Student loans can cripple a middle class family, delay the purchase of a house, effect a credit score and generally hold back a graduate under a mountain of debt for years.


Why not make something like putting a kid through college just a little bit easier?

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

No, I'm not whiling for the NEA. I'm asking a simple question. Are Conservatives opposed to tuition breaks as a problem because they cost too much, because they will somehow disenfranchise the student from his earned degree because it was free or a little cheaper, or because they cannot imagine living in a land with more people holding degrees?

It has to be one of those reasons. Those are the reasons offered here in this thread.

This isn't public school funding (unfortunately. Our public schools should be palaces of learning), it's an investment in the future for the American workforce.

How about: because it is a poor investment and government ventures into education thus far have been a disaster and there is no reason to think this will be different? Just a thought.

 

[Stephanie]

Ha ha...
Obama could promise:
To bomb Obama
Kill all the Black folks
Tell all Wet backs to go home
Shoot Gays
Labour Camps for the unemployed
A law that makes everyone get a Uzi

You still hate him... ODS is a serious problem.

Get help!

you should grow up

 

[Conservative65]

But that's the point. It IS available to the masses. FASFA loans are never denied...EXCEPT to the applicants with ultra wealthy parents. And the cost for a community college or a state school locally, where you don't need room and board is, here in NY, about 5K a year......
And I have news for you.....if one can afford college it does not mean he/she doesn't need college to get ahead. That is a ridiculous partisan talking point that has absolutely no validity.

Student loans can cripple a middle class family, delay the purchase of a house, effect a credit score and generally hold back a graduate under a mountain of debt for years.


Why not make something like putting a kid through college just a little bit easier?

Why is it my job to make it easier for you?

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

No, I'm not whiling for the NEA. I'm asking a simple question. Are Conservatives opposed to tuition breaks as a problem because they cost too much, because they will somehow disenfranchise the student from his earned degree because it was free or a little cheaper, or because they cannot imagine living in a land with more people holding degrees?

It has to be one of those reasons. Those are the reasons offered here in this thread.

This isn't public school funding (unfortunately. Our public schools should be palaces of learning), it's an investment in the future for the American workforce.

It's not a tuition break. It's another form of wealth redistribution to pander to certain groups. If I as a taxpayer am forced to fund one penny of tuition for college for another person's kid, it's one cent too much. The amount is irrelevant. It's the principle of forcing someone the government thinks has too much in order that it goes to someone the government thinks has too little. If you want to fund another person's kid to go to college, write a check. MY money goes to MY kids. By the way, I'm not asking those other parents to do anything beyond what I'm willing to do for my kids.

I don't care how many degrees someone gets as long as I'm not forced to fund it for them.

You think you know why. Let me set you straight. I shouldn't pay for it because it's not my responsibility to send your fucking kids to school.

 

[Darkwind]

Ha ha...
Obama could promise:
To bomb Obama
Kill all the Black folks
Tell all Wet backs to go home
Shoot Gays
Labour Camps for the unemployed
A law that makes everyone get a Uzi

You still hate him... ODS is a serious problem.

Get help!

Are you really so stupid as to believe that I should like Obama just because........????

He is a fucking liberal. He believes & promotes the exact opposite of everything I believe in. So do tell moron. How should I feel about the man who I consider is destroying the fabric of our nation?


When you pull your head out of your ass give me a response.

You hate low gas prices and unemployment numbers? Thats weird

Once again, wtf did Obama have to do with either.

The same he had to do with the rise in gas prices you were complaining about saying it was his fault.

Yet again, you show your membership in the Gruber Club of idiots....

Obama deliberately promoted policy that targeted energy prices...

Oil prices came down not because of Obama, but because he cannot effect what is done on private property, where all the oil boom is happening.

Now, go drink a glass of milk and go to bed.

 

[Conservative65]

As long as there's a laundry list for free shit, maybe Obama will have mercy on RW's and give them a brain.

How can that moron give something he doesn't have?

then you're shit out of luck aren't you?

That fuckhead can't give me something I already have and he doesn't.

 

[Pheonixops]

Drop the self centered attitude and consider this: an educated workforce is a competent work force. A competent workforce is a competitive workforce. A competitive workforce produces higher paying jobs. Higher paying jobs means more tax dollars in government coffers, more disposable income in more hands and therefore an expanding economy.

You'll make your money back. And there will be more educated people helping you in your time of dire finacial circumstances, like now the way you're complaining.

Is the cost of knowledge too high? Try the cost of ignorance!

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

pay high end wages to union drones, appease Republicans, build Keystone Pipeline.

why would YOU want to contribute to a UNION? That's the question.

Yeah, build the pipeline. Obama's own CBO said it would create 42,000 good paying jobs.

I like the idea of the pipeline, I wonder how many of barrels of oil are projected to pass through it? What will the Saudi response be, will they lower production to make oil more scarce and thus fuel prices will rise? Will the creation of the Keystone pipeline counteract that in a timely manner so it offsets the Saudi cut in production? Can the Saudis afford to play that game?

The price of oil we buy is based more on politics than anything else.

I agree that geopolitics does plays a large part in it.

 

[Conservative65]

It still isn't back down to Bush levels and he owes me for 6 fucking years.

Bush level was over $4.00 a gallon.

Then the economy crashed, taking oil down with it. You going to credit Bush for lower gas during an economic crash but not for the crash, hypocrite?

It was around $1.80 the day Bush left office.

And we were bleeding 600,000 jobs a month. There's a connection.

Are you saying lower gas prices caused that?

 

[Conservative65]

We see the cost of ignorance in every one of your posts.
You are equating more money with better education. Except it isnt true. We are spending more per pupil in almost every school district and results on tests etc are worse or very slight better.
Throwing money at a broken system appeases union drones etc but does nothing to help anyone. The unemployment/underemployment rate for college grads is nearly 50%. Why would we want to contribute to that??

pay high end wages to union drones, appease Republicans, build Keystone Pipeline.

why would YOU want to contribute to a UNION? That's the question.

Yeah, build the pipeline. Obama's own CBO said it would create 42,000 good paying jobs.

I like the idea of the pipeline, I wonder how many of barrels of oil are projected to pass through it? What will the Saudi response be, will they lower production to make oil more scarce and thus fuel prices will rise? Will the creation of the Keystone pipeline counteract that in a timely manner so it offsets the Saudi cut in production? Can the Saudis afford to play that game?

The price of oil we buy is based more on politics than anything else.

I agree that geopolitics does plays a large part in it.

More than most people know.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Ha ha...
Obama could promise:
To bomb Obama
Kill all the Black folks
Tell all Wet backs to go home
Shoot Gays
Labour Camps for the unemployed
A law that makes everyone get a Uzi

You still hate him... ODS is a serious problem.

Get help!

Are you really so stupid as to believe that I should like Obama just because........????

He is a fucking liberal. He believes & promotes the exact opposite of everything I believe in. So do tell moron. How should I feel about the man who I consider is destroying the fabric of our nation?


When you pull your head out of your ass give me a response.

You hate low gas prices and unemployment numbers? Thats weird

Once again, wtf did Obama have to do with either.

The same he had to do with the rise in gas prices you were complaining about saying it was his fault.

Yet again, you show your membership in the Gruber Club of idiots....

Obama deliberately promoted policy that targeted energy prices...

Oil prices came down not because of Obama, but because he cannot effect what is done on private property, where all the oil boom is happening.

Now, go drink a glass of milk and go to bed.

And since that isn't a bullshit story the proof of this is...?

 

[TooTall]

Ha ha...
Obama could promise:
To bomb Obama
Kill all the Black folks
Tell all Wet backs to go home
Shoot Gays
Labour Camps for the unemployed
A law that makes everyone get a Uzi

You still hate him... ODS is a serious problem.

Get help!

Are you really so stupid as to believe that I should like Obama just because........????

He is a fucking liberal. He believes & promotes the exact opposite of everything I believe in. So do tell moron. How should I feel about the man who I consider is destroying the fabric of our nation?


When you pull your head out of your ass give me a response.

You hate low gas prices and unemployment numbers? Thats weird

I remember 'drill baby, drill, and it seems to have worked. I also remember who said it wouldn't.

 

[Conservative65]

College tuition is being priced out of reach for more and more people.

The Right will say, "There is no problem."

The Left will say, "Tax the rich more."

We are surrounded by retards.

My daughter starts college next year. She is going to a private university that costs around $33,000/year. Most of her costs are covered through scholarships

Are you really so stupid as to believe that I should like Obama just because........????

He is a fucking liberal. He believes & promotes the exact opposite of everything I believe in. So do tell moron. How should I feel about the man who I consider is destroying the fabric of our nation?


When you pull your head out of your ass give me a response.

You hate low gas prices and unemployment numbers? Thats weird

Once again, wtf did Obama have to do with either.

The same he had to do with the rise in gas prices you were complaining about saying it was his fault.

Yet again, you show your membership in the Gruber Club of idiots....

Obama deliberately promoted policy that targeted energy prices...

Oil prices came down not because of Obama, but because he cannot effect what is done on private property, where all the oil boom is happening.

Now, go drink a glass of milk and go to bed.

And since that isn't a bullshit story the proof of this is...?

The bullshit being spread is by people like you that give Obama credit for prices coming down but blamed anything and everything else when they went up during the last 6 years.