So which was far worse,Trump's collusion or the deep state's criminal effort to depose an American p

[Crepitus]

The deep state is a conservative fantasy with no actual existence so there is no way they could be trying to do anything to tRump.

feel embarrassed yet?

Head of " deep state"Peter Strzok, chief of counter terrorism at FBI and instrumental in closing Clinton investigation and opening Trump investigation said , "we'll stop it" referring to election of Donald Trump.

There is no such thing as "the deep state" .It's a conservative fantasy they have concocted to give you someone to blame for the stuff tRump is doing.

Although the term is relatively new, the "deep state" has existed for decades. It's just short hand to describe the cabal of secretive government agencies staffed by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that work hand in hand with the behind the scenes political power players who have their own agendas not necessarily in line with the will of the American people.

I'm no genius but you'd have to be mighty fuckin DENSE to think for even a second that the massive world dominating machine that is American politics would be entirely free of corruption and secret agendas.

There is no such thing as "the deep state".

 

[WTP]

So which was far worse,Trump's collusion( no evidence so far) or the deep state's criminal effort to depose a sitting American president?

Now that the facts are mostly in is there anyone who does not know the answer? Is there a worse scandal in American History?

It's not "collusion". It's "conspiracy to attack the U.S.", and yes, that has been proven on multiple fronts.

 

[WTP]

So which was far worse,Trump's collusion( no evidence so far) or the deep state's criminal effort to depose a sitting American president?

Now that the facts are mostly in is there anyone who does not know the answer? Is there a worse scandal in American History?

It's not "collusion". It's "conspiracy to attack the U.S.", and yes, that has been proven on multiple fronts.

We are going to see more and more of these public outcry's of desperation for Trump, through these ( he's not guilty smokescreens) than ever before, because in fact, guilt is there.

 

[WTP]

The deep state is a conservative fantasy with no actual existence so there is no way they could be trying to do anything to tRump.

feel embarrassed yet?

Head of " deep state"Peter Strzok, chief of counter terrorism at FBI and instrumental in closing Clinton investigation and opening Trump investigation said , "we'll stop it" referring to election of Donald Trump.

There is no such thing as "the deep state" .It's a conservative fantasy they have concocted to give you someone to blame for the stuff tRump is doing.

Although the term is relatively new, the "deep state" has existed for decades. It's just short hand to describe the cabal of secretive government agencies staffed by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that work hand in hand with the behind the scenes political power players who have their own agendas not necessarily in line with the will of the American people.

I'm no genius but you'd have to be mighty fuckin DENSE to think for even a second that the massive world dominating machine that is American politics would be entirely free of corruption and secret agendas.

There is no such thing as "the deep state".

Just another invention in their tool box.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There is no such thing as "the deep state".

Just another invention in their tool box.

Head of " deep state"Peter Strzok, chief of counter terrorism at FBI and instrumental in closing Clinton investigation and opening Trump investigation said , "we'll stop it" referring to election of Donald Trump.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, because in fact, guilt is there.

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so why is the liberal so afraid to tell us what he did?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's not "collusion". It's "conspiracy to attack the U.S.", and yes, that has been proven on multiple fronts.

proven? then why is the liberal so afraid to show us the proof??

 

[Crepitus]

There is no such thing as "the deep state".

Just another invention in their tool box.

Head of " deep state"Peter Strzok, chief of counter terrorism at FBI and instrumental in closing Clinton investigation and opening Trump investigation said , "we'll stop it" referring to election of Donald Trump.

Repeating the fake news does not make it less fake. It only works on you guys and even then only when tRump does it.

 

[WTP]

There is no such thing as "the deep state".

Just another invention in their tool box.

Head of " deep state"Peter Strzok, chief of counter terrorism at FBI and instrumental in closing Clinton investigation and opening Trump investigation said , "we'll stop it" referring to election of Donald Trump.

No such thing as "deep state", and Strzok could say the same thing today, and it would only mean the same thing as before. Which is absolutely nothing, while everyone knows exactly what it means.

 

[WTP]

It's not "collusion". It's "conspiracy to attack the U.S.", and yes, that has been proven on multiple fronts.

proven? then why is the liberal so afraid to show us the proof??

Which Liberal is that? The one that can tell you with 100% confidence that the Trump tower meeting was a conspiracy with a foreign adversary during a presidential campaign to get dirt on the opposing candidate, only to try and cover it up on Air Force one with several different stories until it was revealed they lied? Is that the Liberal who you are talking about?

Or is it the Liberal who proved Cambridge Analytica was in cahoots with Russia, Wikileaks, and Trump, to use data their people mined to get dirt on Clinton, that Alexander Nix lied about, until he admitted they did use? New Cambridge Analytica revelations connect Trump Russia dots Was it that Liberal?

 

[HenryBHough]

Make no mistake.

The Democrat Party is already engaged in a coup attempt. They only need to be triggered - and that really doesn't take much.

Now a civil war?

That would take a little more effort and I doubt Hillary is up to the task at least not without falling and being unable to get up. But Fauxahontas? On the warpath? Quick! Hide her headdress!

 

[WTP]

Make no mistake.

The Democrat Party is already engaged in a coup attempt. They only need to be triggered - and that really doesn't take much.

Now a civil war?

That would take a little more effort and I doubt Hillary is up to the task at least not without falling and being unable to get up. But Fauxahontas? On the warpath? Quick! Hide her headdress!

Concrete evidence that I just pointed out, is not a coup. It's called evidence. Try next time when you drop by to at least pretend you are making your point look real.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Repeating the fake news does not make it less fake. It only works on you guys and even then only when tRump does it.

does the liberal have a reason to say its fake. Does it even occur to a liberal to have a reason? See why liberals are opposed to free speech? It does not suit them

 

[bodecea]

Trump's collusion.

Next question.

Well considering that there's zero tangible evidence to support the collusion narrative, I'd say the deep state's proven efforts to subvert democracy is much worse. Even if collusion was true, it's hardly any worse than our own massive, unaccountable, secretive government agencies abusing their power for partisan politics.

You aren't in with the new message being put out there....there WAS collusion, but it's not bad....in fact it's good! Keep up on your trump memos, please.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Which Liberal is that? The one that can tell you with 100% confidence that the Trump tower meeting was a conspiracy with a foreign adversary during a presidential campaign to get dirt on the opposing candidate, only to try and cover it up on Air Force one with several different stories until it was revealed they lied? Is that the Liberal who you are talking about?

so what?? Hillary paid for dirt in dossier .politicians always pay for dirt Its legal and well accepted. Feel embarrassed yet?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

...there WAS collusion,.

if so why so afraid to tell us what it was?? what does the liberal learn from his fear?

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump's collusion.

Next question.

Prove it with evidence, not Bull shit.

 

[bodecea]

Which Liberal is that? The one that can tell you with 100% confidence that the Trump tower meeting was a conspiracy with a foreign adversary during a presidential campaign to get dirt on the opposing candidate, only to try and cover it up on Air Force one with several different stories until it was revealed they lied? Is that the Liberal who you are talking about?

so what?? Hillary paid for dirt in dossier .politicians always pay for dirt Its legal and well accepted. Feel embarrassed yet?

You mean that dossier ordered up by the GOP?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Which Liberal is that? The one that can tell you with 100% confidence that the Trump tower meeting was a conspiracy with a foreign adversary during a presidential campaign to get dirt on the opposing candidate, only to try and cover it up on Air Force one with several different stories until it was revealed they lied? Is that the Liberal who you are talking about?

so what?? Hillary paid for dirt in dossier .politicians always pay for dirt Its legal and well accepted. Feel embarrassed yet?

You mean that dossier ordered up by the GOP?

Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...paid...dossier/.../226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a347075...
Oct 24, 2017 - The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing ...

 

[WTP]

Which Liberal is that? The one that can tell you with 100% confidence that the Trump tower meeting was a conspiracy with a foreign adversary during a presidential campaign to get dirt on the opposing candidate, only to try and cover it up on Air Force one with several different stories until it was revealed they lied? Is that the Liberal who you are talking about?

so what?? Hillary paid for dirt in dossier .politicians always pay for dirt Its legal and well accepted. Feel embarrassed yet?

Except what Trump did was illegal. He used a foreign adversary, and is a conspiracy to attack the U.S. There's a big difference.

 

[Darkwind]

So which was far worse,Trump's collusion( no evidence so far) or the deep state's criminal effort to depose a sitting American president?

Now that the facts are mostly in is there anyone who does not know the answer? Is there a worse scandal in American History?

What collusion?