Iceweasel
Diamond Member
I don't share your religious views so preaching your dogma to me is a waste of time. The real fool is the one that thinks balancing any budget is a bad idea. And the left wing compromises on nothing, blaming the Republicans for our fiscal mess is beyond stupid. So is the belief that corporate donations are wrong but unions confiscating workers money to funnel into the Democrat party is just fine and dandy.Wrong. Like always!Geez, another genius......FYI....we the people are the government. Of course we elect people and they do it for us, but we don't write out checks directly to the various things the government pays for.......the government is the one that does that. Quit trying to use semantics to twist what I said.
Of course WE are the government, through our elected representatives. But that doesn't mean government gets to redefine the authority it has as enumerated in the Constitution. We have a specific process for that... it's called "amending the Constitution." Yes, everything the government pays for comes out of our pocket or has to be borrowed from foreign investors like China. The government itself doesn't earn any money.
We are currently running a yearly deficit of a billion plus... our cumulative national debt is nearly $19 trillion. The amount we have dedicated through yet-to-be-claimed liabilities is approaching $200 trillion. Most normal persons cannot wrap their minds around the amount of money that is. And we have two Democrat Socialist seeking the presidency by seeing which one can offer more spending and taxing than the other.
The debt is a cumulative amount from decades past, something a nation can do as long as it remains stable and can pay creditors when necessary. The Henny Penny fearmongers have been brainwashed to believe the massive debt is the harbinger for financial collapse.
It is not. The reason the don't tax and spend GOP has brought this issue up now is because they want the seat in the oval office for the perks then made available to the party. It has nothing to do with their ability to govern fiscally responsibly, for we've seen the deficits of Reagan and Bush II and how the issue was silent during their reign.
If the Congress wants to prosecute war, they need to stand up and pass a bond issue to pay for it, not spend a trillion dollars and more on a war of choice not budgeted. Under Obama the cost of military action and the treatment of wounded vets is on budget and transparent - and still the deficit has been cut during his tenure in office.
Conservatives have always brought up overspending and we pay a MASSIVE amount on interest alone. You dipsticks think a country can spend its' way into prosperity. The country did great under Reagan and Bush, until all the bullshit overspending/speculating/playing games with money collapsed the market. WE should be rolling along way before now but the economy STILL sucks because too many think what got us into trouble is the way forward.
Real conservatives have always been careful with the pennies, but that alone is insufficient when needs go unmet. The problem is clear, the Right and Left have different priorities which each concludes will lead to fiscal sanity,
The current meme on the Right is to push for a Balanced Budget Amendment - a fools errand; one which ignores fiscal cost deficits; which is why they are penny wise and pound foolish.
The Congress, and more specifically the members of the TP Caucus are as out of touch with the reality of governance as were the Utopian Socialists in the early part of the 20th Century,
The Left wants to provide free health care and seemingly open borders, ignoring how this leads to the exploitation of labor and a drain on local government's resources.
The real problems facing us today is The Congress, and the on going bitter divide ignited by Gingrich two decades ago. A Congress, BTW, which is predominantly concerned with their own reelection and only too willing to be bought by the highest bidder (thanks to the five members of the Supreme Court's repeal of sensible reform).