Socialism Creates Poverty

[Delta4Embassy]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Poverty exists in every system. Would say though that capitalism is the system poverty crops up in the most since any system based on greed and selfishness, as capitalism is, is going to see takers take and those too polite or kind to take from other suffer and become empoverished.

Sucky as that is, I don't think there's a better way of doing things.

Is China richer now or when it labored under a more restrictive Communist system?
Is India richer now or when it labored under a more restrictive Socialist system?
Your analysis is flawed, of course. Capitalism brings more benefits, even to people "too polite" to take from others. I dont know any such people, btw. Everyone I know expects to get paid for their work or they are too proud to take government handouts.

Unfortunately for capitalism, when fascists like yourself defend it it isn't being defended.

 

[mudwhistle]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

Wow, that is a really misinformed post.

 

[The Rabbi]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Poverty exists in every system. Would say though that capitalism is the system poverty crops up in the most since any system based on greed and selfishness, as capitalism is, is going to see takers take and those too polite or kind to take from other suffer and become empoverished.

Sucky as that is, I don't think there's a better way of doing things.

Is China richer now or when it labored under a more restrictive Communist system?
Is India richer now or when it labored under a more restrictive Socialist system?
Your analysis is flawed, of course. Capitalism brings more benefits, even to people "too polite" to take from others. I dont know any such people, btw. Everyone I know expects to get paid for their work or they are too proud to take government handouts.

Unfortunately for capitalism, when fascists like yourself defend it it isn't being defended.

Translation: I know i'm wrong but like an alcoholic can't admit it so it must be your problem.
Your response is pathetic.

 

[mudwhistle]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Poverty exists in every system. Would say though that capitalism is the system poverty crops up in the most since any system based on greed and selfishness, as capitalism is, is going to see takers take and those too polite or kind to take from other suffer and become empoverished.

Sucky as that is, I don't think there's a better way of doing things.

Is China richer now or when it labored under a more restrictive Communist system?
Is India richer now or when it labored under a more restrictive Socialist system?
Your analysis is flawed, of course. Capitalism brings more benefits, even to people "too polite" to take from others. I dont know any such people, btw. Everyone I know expects to get paid for their work or they are too proud to take government handouts.

Unfortunately for capitalism, when fascists like yourself defend it it isn't being defended.

A fascist tries to force everyone to follow their ideology or laws.

Capitalism is the antithesis of fascism. Socialism is closer to fascism than Capitalism by far.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If it is socialism that creates poverty, why was there so damned much of the stuff during the days of feudalism?

 

[Freewill]

I think that the point is that socialism can not cure poverty by its very nature. It perpetuates the status quo, no one improves everyone stays the same.

Socialism is like have a competition where everyone gets the same participation medal. Which is good for the slackers but stifles the productive.

 

[JoeB131]

Socialism is like have a competition where everyone gets the same participation medal. Which is good for the slackers but stifles the productive.

Capitalism is like a competition where the guy who cheats the most and pulls the most dirty underhanded tricks wins, after he bribes the judges.

 

[Ava]

'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'—Margaret Thatcher

 

[NYcarbineer]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

There hasnt been any capitalism in Africa. Ergo high poverty rates.
Latin America has had periodic bouts of capitalism. And they all work, like Chile under Pinochet. Socialism is a failure everywhere.

Capitalism, left to its own devices, is evil. That's why good people everywhere rein it in as best they can.

 

[Plasmaball]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

There hasnt been any capitalism in Africa. Ergo high poverty rates.
Latin America has had periodic bouts of capitalism. And they all work, like Chile under Pinochet. Socialism is a failure everywhere.

oh you are serious with this post

 

[The Rabbi]

Socialism is like have a competition where everyone gets the same participation medal. Which is good for the slackers but stifles the productive.

Capitalism is like a competition where the guy who cheats the most and pulls the most dirty underhanded tricks wins, after he bribes the judges.

No, you just described the Obama Administration.

 

[The Rabbi]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

There hasnt been any capitalism in Africa. Ergo high poverty rates.
Latin America has had periodic bouts of capitalism. And they all work, like Chile under Pinochet. Socialism is a failure everywhere.

oh you are serious with this post

Translation: I didnt understand that but will make a witty retort to show I am an imbecile.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

If it is socialism that creates poverty, why was there so damned much of the stuff during the days of feudalism?

feudalism is socialism. Everyone works and pays into the system to support the state and only gets enough to barely survive, and never become a king.

 

[Antares]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Probably has to do more with the fact that the US and other nations punished his country for having the audacity to want to control their own wealth.

Washington Sanctioning the World US Government Threatens Sanctions against Venezuelan Officials Global Research

LOL, poor Joe,

One trick pony........it doesn't work fella, never will.

Socialism is not about LIFTING anyone out of poverty it is simply about bringing everyone DOWN to the same level......well except for those at the top of course.

 

[Plasmaball]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

There hasnt been any capitalism in Africa. Ergo high poverty rates.
Latin America has had periodic bouts of capitalism. And they all work, like Chile under Pinochet. Socialism is a failure everywhere.

oh you are serious with this post

Translation: I didnt understand that but will make a witty retort to show I am an imbecile.

nah

 

[The Rabbi]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Probably has to do more with the fact that the US and other nations punished his country for having the audacity to want to control their own wealth.

Washington Sanctioning the World US Government Threatens Sanctions against Venezuelan Officials Global Research

LOL, poor Joe,

One trick pony........it doesn't work fella, never will.

Socialism is not about LIFTING anyone out of poverty it is simply about bringing everyone DOWN to the same level......well except for those at the top of course.

Socialism is shared poverty and misery.

 

[bripat9643]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Probably has to do more with the fact that the US and other nations punished his country for having the audacity to want to control their own wealth.

Washington Sanctioning the World US Government Threatens Sanctions against Venezuelan Officials Global Research

You're kidding, right? Obama punished Venezuela? How?

 

[bripat9643]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

Wow, that is a really misinformed post.

Why is it that every example of so-called "successful socialism" is really an example of capitalism?

 

[bripat9643]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

There hasnt been any capitalism in Africa. Ergo high poverty rates.
Latin America has had periodic bouts of capitalism. And they all work, like Chile under Pinochet. Socialism is a failure everywhere.

oh you are serious with this post

He's just reporting the simple facts.

 

[The Rabbi]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

There hasnt been any capitalism in Africa. Ergo high poverty rates.
Latin America has had periodic bouts of capitalism. And they all work, like Chile under Pinochet. Socialism is a failure everywhere.

oh you are serious with this post

He's just reporting the simple facts.

Facts mean nothing to Scumball. They just get in the way of his fantasies.