Socialism threads bandwagon

[impuretrash]

Can we please just dispel the myth that taxpayer funded services are socialist programs?

You mean Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid?

That's not a myth. It's the facts. Those are certainly not free market programs.You may not like to admit that reality...but is is that

I've seen people on this forum say that everything from trash collection to the military are Socialist programs. You're probably one of them.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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You must first have consensus as to what constitutes "socialism."

For example, a universal health care program is not "socialism."

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Apparently they have their marching orders.

They have been screaming

SOCIALISM

REPARATIONS!

for days.

I guess someone did some focus group work and noted the right wing angst at those words.

And for the record...Saudi Arabia is about as socialist as you can get. Half the population is on welfare.

No, thats what libs are screaming. They want state control of your life and you want them to lead you by your nose.

 

[Rustic]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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You must first have consensus as to what constitutes "socialism."

For example, a universal health care program is not "socialism."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Have you ever had an original thought?


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OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

You cannot even identify it, how can there be nothing worse?


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[Harpy Eagle]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Have you ever had an original thought?


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OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

Ok. This is a start.

Can you give me a list of some of the countless countries that have tried it and failed.

Maybe 10 or so since there are so many.


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[Rustic]

OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

You cannot even identify it, how can there be nothing worse?


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You do realize trying something over and over again and expecting different results… Is insanity. I think a famous dude once said that?

 

[Rustic]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Have you ever had an original thought?


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OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

Ok. This is a start.

Can you give me a list of some of the countless countries that have tried it and failed.

Maybe 10 or so since there are so many.


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First of all there has never been long-term socialism, because socialism is an incubator for dictatorship every time. All through civilization it speaks of tried socialism... Failure every time.

So I throw it back to you, name 10 countries that have succeeded with socialism… Long term did you hear me? Long-term

You can't argue against socialism's 100 per cent record of failure - CapX

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

You cannot even identify it, how can there be nothing worse?


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You do realize trying something over and over again and expecting different results… Is insanity. I think a famous dude once said that?

How can we know if it is being done over and over again when it cannot even be defined.

Are public roads socialist?

Is public law enforcement socialist?

Is the military an example of socialism?




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[Rustic]

Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

You cannot even identify it, how can there be nothing worse?


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You do realize trying something over and over again and expecting different results… Is insanity. I think a famous dude once said that?

How can we know if it is being done over and over again when it cannot even be defined.

Are public roads socialist?

Is public law enforcement socialist?

Is the military an example of socialism?




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Built by and paid by who?
Like I’ve said, military police and fire are an necessary... obviously.
But our federal government/deep state are infinitely too large and, socialist entitlement programs have been out of control for decades. These things are not beneficial to conservative/libertarian‘s in anyway. They do not require our participation…

 

[Tehon]

Capital puts the capital in capitalism. Remove it and you have Socialism.

Figure out which countries have done that to get your list.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Have you ever had an original thought?


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OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

Ok. This is a start.

Can you give me a list of some of the countless countries that have tried it and failed.

Maybe 10 or so since there are so many.


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First of all there has never been long-term socialism, because socialism is an incubator for dictatorship every time. All through civilization it speaks of tried socialism... Failure every time.

So I throw it back to you, name 10 countries that have failed have succeeded with socialism… Long term did you hear me? Long-term

You can't argue against socialism's 100 per cent record of failure - CapX

I cannot name 10 socialist counties, period. That is why this thread exist.

A person from Canada states they are a socialist country and someone else says “no you are not”.

Is Norway an example of a socialist country?

Or Sweden?

Or how about China? China claims to have a Socialist Market economy, are they a socialist country?

How about India? Their constitution has socialism written into it, do they qualify?

Same with Portugal and Sri Lanka. Are they on your list?


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[BrokeLoser]

Do legitimate positive contributors ever champion “socialism”?
Why or why not?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Capital puts the capital in capitalism. Remove it and you have Socialism.

Figure out which countries have done that to get your list.

I cannot think of a one. Can you?


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[Rustic]

OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

Ok. This is a start.

Can you give me a list of some of the countless countries that have tried it and failed.

Maybe 10 or so since there are so many.


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First of all there has never been long-term socialism, because socialism is an incubator for dictatorship every time. All through civilization it speaks of tried socialism... Failure every time.

So I throw it back to you, name 10 countries that have failed have succeeded with socialism… Long term did you hear me? Long-term

You can't argue against socialism's 100 per cent record of failure - CapX

I cannot name 10 socialist counties, period. That is why this thread exist.

A person from Canada states they are a socialist country and someone else says “no you are not”.

Is Norway an example of a socialist country?

Or Sweden?

Or how about China? China claims to have a Socialist Market economy, are they a socialist country?

How about India? Their constitution has socialism written into it, do they qualify?

Same with Portugal and Sri Lanka. Are they on your list?


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Socialism always feels good to the immature and naïve… But in reality it’s never been a long term solution to anything

 

[BS Filter]

Speaking of paying taxes...….I think an investigation into AOC's taxes are called for. I really want to know if she paid taxes on her tips as a bartender.

 

[impuretrash]

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

You cannot even identify it, how can there be nothing worse?


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You do realize trying something over and over again and expecting different results… Is insanity. I think a famous dude once said that?

How can we know if it is being done over and over again when it cannot even be defined.

Are public roads socialist?

Is public law enforcement socialist?

Is the military an example of socialism?




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Built by and paid by who?
Like I’ve said, military police and fire are an necessary... obviously.
But our federal government/deep state are infinitely too large and, socialist entitlement programs have been out of control for decades. These things are not beneficial to conservative/libertarian‘s in anyway. They do not require our participation…

A strong argument could be made that capitalist greed is the reason the deep state has gotten so out of hand.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Do legitimate positive contributors ever champion “socialism”?
Why or why not?

Tell me what you think socialism is and I will see if any do.


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[Rustic]

• First, socialism eradicates private property and markets and thus eliminates rational calculation.
• Second, socialism allows soft budgets, so there is no mechanism in place to discard inefficient production methods.
• Third, abolishing private property and replacing it by the state distorts the incentives.
• Four, the socialist system with its absence of private property and of free markets inhibits the economic coordination of the system of division of labor and capital.

 

[Brain357]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Have you ever had an original thought?


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OK here’s original thought for you, socialism sucks because it always has to be forced on people that want nothing to do with it. If it was Worth a shit it would not have to be forced.

Millions of conservatives/Libertarians in this country what nothing to do with socialism… It does not require our participation. Why don’t you keep that shit to yourselves if it is so great?

Yet so many conservatives support these special tax deals for corporations. Now that is socialism they support.