Socialism threads bandwagon

[Harpy Eagle]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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This shit has become hilarious...I’m fascinated at how the beggars have busted their filthy asses trying to disguise socialism...this is simple shit for third graders....when government FORCES people to pay for other people’s shit for which the payer does not benefit you have socialism.
Our retarded pyramid schemes such as social security and Medicare fall within the grey area that beggars seek to expand.

So, according to you it is ok for the government to FORCE people to pay for things as long as they all benefit?

Is that correct?


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[impuretrash]

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

And yet you can't define that which you so vehemently oppose

Oh...

Are you a socialist?

in my interactions with him I've concluded that he's a democrat zealot

 

[Rustic]

• First, socialism eradicates private property and markets and thus eliminates rational calculation.
• Second, socialism allows soft budgets, so there is no mechanism in place to discard inefficient production methods.
• Third, abolishing private property and replacing it by the state distorts the incentives.
• Four, the socialist system with its absence of private property and of free markets inhibits the economic coordination of the system of division of labor and capital.

Can you name a country where these four things have happened?


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You know he can't. He's obviously just a stubborn old man who isn't going to budge an inch on this topic so might as well move on already.

You do realize there’s nothing on new under the sun?

Like I said socialism cannot coexist with any sort of freedom… History has proven that over and over again

Yet you cannot name any of these historical examples


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Lol
Every ancient empire started out as socialism then became what it really was... misery

That is my point there is nothing new under the sun, socialism is all about control disguised as good intentions.
I’ve said over and over again any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist... History has proven this to be true countless times

 

[BS Filter]

Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

And yet you can't define that which you so vehemently oppose

Oh...

Are you a socialist?

in my interactions with him I've concluded that he's a democrat zealot

Well, that makes him a commie.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

• First, socialism eradicates private property and markets and thus eliminates rational calculation.
• Second, socialism allows soft budgets, so there is no mechanism in place to discard inefficient production methods.
• Third, abolishing private property and replacing it by the state distorts the incentives.
• Four, the socialist system with its absence of private property and of free markets inhibits the economic coordination of the system of division of labor and capital.

Can you name a country where these four things have happened?


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You know he can't. He's obviously just a stubborn old man who isn't going to budge an inch on this topic so might as well move on already.

You do realize there’s nothing on new under the sun?

Like I said socialism cannot coexist with any sort of freedom… History has proven that over and over again

Yet you cannot name any of these historical examples


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Lol
Every ancient empire started out as socialism then became what it really was... misery

That is my point there is nothing new under the sun, socialism is all about control disguised as good intentions.
I’ve said over and over again any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist... History has proven this to be true countless times

And yet through all this you cannot nail down what this evil thing actually is. All you do is give vague, non-committal answers that are useless in reality.

Let’s pick a country and go on at a time.


How about Norway...do you view them as a socialist country?


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[Rustic]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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This shit has become hilarious...I’m fascinated at how the beggars have busted their filthy asses trying to disguise socialism...this is simple shit for third graders....when government FORCES people to pay for other people’s shit for which the payer does not benefit you have socialism.
Our retarded pyramid schemes such as social security and Medicare fall within the grey area that beggars seek to expand.

So, according to you it is ok for the government to FORCE people to pay for things as long as they all benefit?

Is that correct?


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The collective never knows what’s best for the individual, so they have no credibility and all standing.

 

[Lesh]

• First, socialism eradicates private property and markets and thus eliminates rational calculation.
• Second, socialism allows soft budgets, so there is no mechanism in place to discard inefficient production methods.
• Third, abolishing private property and replacing it by the state distorts the incentives.
• Four, the socialist system with its absence of private property and of free markets inhibits the economic coordination of the system of division of labor and capital.

Can you name a country where these four things have happened?


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You know he can't. He's obviously just a stubborn old man who isn't going to budge an inch on this topic so might as well move on already.

You do realize there’s nothing on new under the sun?

Like I said socialism cannot coexist with any sort of freedom… History has proven that over and over again

Yet you cannot name any of these historical examples


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He can't even give us HIS definition of socialism

 

[Lesh]

Tell me, in your own words what is socialism. Define it for me please, in your own words.


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Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

And yet you can't define that which you so vehemently oppose

Oh...

Are you a socialist?

Nope. Are you a fascist?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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This shit has become hilarious...I’m fascinated at how the beggars have busted their filthy asses trying to disguise socialism...this is simple shit for third graders....when government FORCES people to pay for other people’s shit for which the payer does not benefit you have socialism.
Our retarded pyramid schemes such as social security and Medicare fall within the grey area that beggars seek to expand.

So, according to you it is ok for the government to FORCE people to pay for things as long as they all benefit?

Is that correct?


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I’ll bite.
Something like that...although I hate the word “force”. I am inclined to support tax revenues being spent for community benefit as I believe such is fundamental for a civilized, first world society. I believe that how tax revenues are spent / appropriated should ALWAYS be voted on by ONLY those contributing.
For the record, I’m a firm proponent of a use tax, a consumption tax if you will.

 

[impuretrash]

Nope. Are you a fascist?

Define Fascism.

 

[BS Filter]

Ok, Here is what I think socialism is. First of all it’s been tried in every form and countless times, So it has 100% failure as a track record.
And “this time” it will not work just like every other time...
It relies on everyone to do the same thing no exceptions, it relies on human nature to be good which obviously it’s not.
It depends on the collective which is always evil… And it’s means of prosperity relies on redistribution. Which at its very core is wrong in every sense of the word.
And this time they are using political correctness to control people into thinking it’s something new… There again the fact remains Socialism has a 100% fail rate long-term. There is nothing new under the sun.

You were asked for a definition...even YOUR definition and instead we got a rant.

Oh...

Well, I like millions of other Americans can’t think of anything worse than socialism.
Of course I’m going to reject it with every part of my being.
Any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist… That’s just the facts

And yet you can't define that which you so vehemently oppose

Oh...

Are you a socialist?

Nope. Are you a fascist?

I'm a conservative constitutionalist American citizen, which means I'm a "fascist" according to your warped thinking.. Are you a commie?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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This shit has become hilarious...I’m fascinated at how the beggars have busted their filthy asses trying to disguise socialism...this is simple shit for third graders....when government FORCES people to pay for other people’s shit for which the payer does not benefit you have socialism.
Our retarded pyramid schemes such as social security and Medicare fall within the grey area that beggars seek to expand.

So, according to you it is ok for the government to FORCE people to pay for things as long as they all benefit?

Is that correct?


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The collective never knows what’s best for the individual, so they have no credibility and all standing.

The collective thinks it is best for the individual to spend more on our military than the next 8 countries combined...and you have never once publicly questioned it.

Why is that?


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[Rustic]

Can you name a country where these four things have happened?


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You know he can't. He's obviously just a stubborn old man who isn't going to budge an inch on this topic so might as well move on already.

You do realize there’s nothing on new under the sun?

Like I said socialism cannot coexist with any sort of freedom… History has proven that over and over again

Yet you cannot name any of these historical examples


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Lol
Every ancient empire started out as socialism then became what it really was... misery

That is my point there is nothing new under the sun, socialism is all about control disguised as good intentions.
I’ve said over and over again any sort of freedom and socialism cannot coexist... History has proven this to be true countless times

And yet through all this you cannot nail down what this evil thing actually is. All you do is give vague, non-committal answers that are useless in reality.

Let’s pick a country and go on at a time.


How about Norway...do you view them as a socialist country?


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I view all of Western Europe as socialism hiding capitalism as their means.
Obviously they are getting older(less family) and they’re losing their ability because of their failure that is socialism.

 

[Rustic]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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This shit has become hilarious...I’m fascinated at how the beggars have busted their filthy asses trying to disguise socialism...this is simple shit for third graders....when government FORCES people to pay for other people’s shit for which the payer does not benefit you have socialism.
Our retarded pyramid schemes such as social security and Medicare fall within the grey area that beggars seek to expand.

So, according to you it is ok for the government to FORCE people to pay for things as long as they all benefit?

Is that correct?


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The collective never knows what’s best for the individual, so they have no credibility and all standing.

The collective thinks it is best for the individual to spend more on our military than the next 8 countries combined...and you have never once publicly questioned it.

Why is that?


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Like I said we are far too much government, that’s what happens.
But our enemies are numerous… Muslims do not tolerate any other.

 

[BS Filter]

• First, socialism eradicates private property and markets and thus eliminates rational calculation.
• Second, socialism allows soft budgets, so there is no mechanism in place to discard inefficient production methods.
• Third, abolishing private property and replacing it by the state distorts the incentives.
• Four, the socialist system with its absence of private property and of free markets inhibits the economic coordination of the system of division of labor and capital.

Can you name a country where these four things have happened?


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You know he can't. He's obviously just a stubborn old man who isn't going to budge an inch on this topic so might as well move on already.

You do realize there’s nothing on new under the sun?

Like I said socialism cannot coexist with any sort of freedom… History has proven that over and over again

Yet you cannot name any of these historical examples


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He can't even give us HIS definition of socialism

Give us your definition of socialism.

 

[Rustic]

Nothing describes socialism better than this...

 

[BrokeLoser]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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Let’s cross examine you a bit...
Is it socialism when government forces me to pay Guadalupe to have children?
Is it socialism when government forces me to help cover the cost of that new bridge?

 

[Rustic]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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Let’s cross examine you a bit...
Is it socialism when government forces me to pay Guadalupe to have children?
Is it socialism when government forces me to help cover the cost of that new bridge?

Lol
See another that’s part of socialism, Globalism. A born fuck up

 

[impuretrash]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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Let’s cross examine you a bit...
Is it socialism when government forces me to pay Guadalupe to have children?
Is it socialism when government forces me to help cover the cost of that new bridge?

Lol
See another that’s part of socialism, Globalism. A born fuck up

Globalism is more like world corporatism

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Thought I would jump on the theme of the week.

In a couple other threads on socialism there is some disagreement on which countries are currently socialist. Some say Canada is, some say it is not for example.

So, in your view what counties in the world today are socialist countries.

Let’s see if we can come up with a list most agree on.


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This shit has become hilarious...I’m fascinated at how the beggars have busted their filthy asses trying to disguise socialism...this is simple shit for third graders....when government FORCES people to pay for other people’s shit for which the payer does not benefit you have socialism.
Our retarded pyramid schemes such as social security and Medicare fall within the grey area that beggars seek to expand.

So, according to you it is ok for the government to FORCE people to pay for things as long as they all benefit?

Is that correct?


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I’ll bite.
Something like that...although I hate the word “force”. I am inclined to support tax revenues being spent for community benefit as I believe such is fundamental for a civilized, first world society. I believe that how tax revenues are spent / appropriated should ALWAYS be voted on by ONLY those contributing.
For the record, I’m a firm proponent of a use tax, a consumption tax if you will.

Thank you for the response.

I find that I pretty much agree what all that you said, and I would be fine with a consumption tax or a flat tax. The thing I oppose the most about taxes is them being used for social engineering. I do not think there should be such a thing as deductions or credits.


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