Socialist agenda stalls in the House

[Ambivalent1]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

 

[Ambivalent1]

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The Medicare for All bill, introduced by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., isn’t faring much better.

The bill had 106 co-sponsors when it was introduced on Feb. 27. Two weeks later, no other Democrat has co-sponsored the plan to eliminate all private health insurance and turn the nation’s entire healthcare system over to the government.:

 

[Meister]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

I'm wondering how Harris and Booker voted? They are campaigning for the next presidential nomination.

 

[OldLady]

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The Medicare for All bill, introduced by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., isn’t faring much better.

The bill had 106 co-sponsors when it was introduced on Feb. 27. Two weeks later, no other Democrat has co-sponsored the plan to eliminate all private health insurance and turn the nation’s entire healthcare system over to the government.:

Shoot. Well, it is pretty serious stuff. Need to get it right. And turning anything over to the government is a kind of scary thought. But it does okay with Medicare. What about just expanding it to include everyone? Let private insurance co-exist for those who can afford to buy it.

 

[OldLady]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

I'm wondering how Harris and Booker voted? They are campaigning for the next presidential nomination.

When I voted for Obama the first time, I was voting for universal healthcare. We got that mess called ObamaCare instead. It was very disappointing. You gotta be careful believing all that campaign talk, anyway.

 

[Ambivalent1]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

I'm wondering how Harris and Booker voted? They are campaigning for the next presidential nomination.

They're both Senators actually, it makes sense that the House quashed so that none of their Candidates would have to actually put an official stamp on it. I'm sure they think the fuss will die down before the election.

 

[OldLady]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

I'm wondering how Harris and Booker voted? They are campaigning for the next presidential nomination.

They didn't "vote," it never got that far. This is Harris's record on healthcare.
The Voter's Self Defense System
This is Booker's, and it looks just like Harris's. Party line, maybe?
The Voter's Self Defense System

 

[Meister]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

I'm wondering how Harris and Booker voted? They are campaigning for the next presidential nomination.

They didn't "vote," it never got that far. This is Harris's record on healthcare.
The Voter's Self Defense System
This is Booker's, and it looks just like Harris's. Party line, maybe?
The Voter's Self Defense System

I was thinking more on their prior statements about the GND

 

[Ambivalent1]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

I'm wondering how Harris and Booker voted? They are campaigning for the next presidential nomination.

They didn't "vote," it never got that far. This is Harris's record on healthcare.
The Voter's Self Defense System
This is Booker's, and it looks just like Harris's. Party line, maybe?
The Voter's Self Defense System

I was thinking more on their prior statements about the GND

I know, I really do think that this development is simply for them to save face before it gets out of hand, that platform would NOT get them elected.

Not yet anyway.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Many of the House Democrats recently elected won districts that lean Republican, so they can't afford to jump aboard a radical agenda if they want to see a second term

 

[Maxdeath]

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The Medicare for All bill, introduced by Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., isn’t faring much better.

The bill had 106 co-sponsors when it was introduced on Feb. 27. Two weeks later, no other Democrat has co-sponsored the plan to eliminate all private health insurance and turn the nation’s entire healthcare system over to the government.:

Shoot. Well, it is pretty serious stuff. Need to get it right. And turning anything over to the government is a kind of scary thought. But it does okay with Medicare. What about just expanding it to include everyone? Let private insurance co-exist for those who can afford to buy it.

You do realize there are more problems wit Medicare then I can name right?
1. People and their employers pay into Medicare all their working life. Even if you retire early you are not eligible for Medicare before 65. On average that is 45 years or so of paying in.
2. If you take Medicare at 65 you still pay into the system. My wife pays over $135.00 a month.
3. Medicare does not pay all bills. You still need to have to have insurance companies insurance to cover what Medicare does not. That can run $150.00 to $300.00 a month.
4. Medicare is going broke the way it is setup now. Add more it will only go broke faster.
5. Medicare for all is expected to cost 3.6 trillion dollars each year. The federal government took in a total of 3.5 trillion in 2016. If we use every cent taken in to pay for Medicare for all what do we pay the government, military, even the IRS with? Not to mention that every penny would still leave a shortfall.
These are just a few of the problems with Medicare. Magnify that by everyone and you magnify the problems.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

Did it occur to you that nobody every thought it was going to pass, or even get voted on?

It was a wild pie in the sky kind of thing that never had a chance to become law, the people that wrote it were smart enough to know that. In fact it is almost as if they wrote it that way by design.

 

[BULLDOG]

So there might be a few more tries before they get it right. How many times did the right vote to kill healthcare? 50? 60?

 

[Ambivalent1]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

Did it occur to you that nobody every thought it was going to pass, or even get voted on?

It was a wild pie in the sky kind of thing that never had a chance to become law, the people that wrote it were smart enough to know that. In fact it is almost as if they wrote it that way by design.

Shoo, the big people are talking. Go play with the kids.

 

[task0778]

The other problem with Medicare for All is that we don't have enough providers and facilities to deliver decent health care for everybody. If smaller countries with fewer people are having problems with access (and they are), then how can anyone expect to make it work here? The only option for that is rationing, do you want a bureaucrat deciding who gets what treatments?

 

[Kondor3]

Americans aren't buying what the Commie Child is trying to sell.

None with homes, cars, good jobs, bank accounts and a future, anyway.

Well... maybe a Cultural Suicide type or Wigger here-and-there, but, generally speaking... not so much...

 

[Ambivalent1]

The other problem with Medicare for All is that we don't have enough providers and facilities to deliver decent health care for everybody. If smaller countries are having problems with access (and they are), then how can anyone expect to make it work here? The only option for that is rationing, do you want a bureaucrat deciding who gets what treatments?

The bigger elephant in the room is that the folks on the ground haven't thought it through.
You cannot dictate the pricing of the insurance without controlling the prices all the way up and down the supply chain.

 

[BULLDOG]

The other problem with Medicare for All is that we don't have enough providers and facilities to deliver decent health care for everybody. If smaller countries with fewer people are having problems with access (and they are), then how can anyone expect to make it work here? The only option for that is rationing, do you want a bureaucrat deciding who gets what treatments?

If we don't have enough doctors, we'll train some more. Problem solved.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

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Ambitious proposals to end climate change and provide healthcare for everyone, seen as socialist by Republicans, have failed to win the support of even half of the House Democratic caucus, effectively dooming any chance of floor consideration.


Support appears to have plateaued for both the Green New Deal resolution as well as the Medicare for All national health insurance proposal.

The Green New Deal, introduced Feb. 7 by rising freshman star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., calls for a complete overhaul of the nation’s housing, transportation, businesses, and agriculture to end carbon emissions and to stave off climate change."

Socialist agenda stalls in the House

Maybe there ARE adults in the Dem ranks.

Did it occur to you that nobody every thought it was going to pass, or even get voted on?

It was a wild pie in the sky kind of thing that never had a chance to become law, the people that wrote it were smart enough to know that. In fact it is almost as if they wrote it that way by design.

Shoo, the big people are talking. Go play with the kids.

That is what I thought, you lack the intelligence to think outside of a party box. Sorry for suggesting you might be able to do so.

go back to parroting the party talking points, it is all you are qualified to do

 

[OldLady]

The other problem with Medicare for All is that we don't have enough providers and facilities to deliver decent health care for everybody. If smaller countries with fewer people are having problems with access (and they are), then how can anyone expect to make it work here? The only option for that is rationing, do you want a bureaucrat deciding who gets what treatments?

Are you saying we don't have enough doctors and hospitals, or that they will all quit seeing patients if the country adopts universal healthcare? I don't think so. Around here, a rural area where about everybody is broke, all the doctors and the hospitals and nursing homes accept Medicare/Medicaid or they wouldn't have any patients. If the country adopts universal healthcare, there might be a few doctors who decide to remain outside the system for the wealthy, but that won't be the majority of them. They all have to make a living. That's not to say they'll LIKE it. Hell no, they won't be as rich. I think that's where some of the shortages come from in countries with universal healthcare. The reimbursement is low.