Some Countries Still Care about Presidents Birth Certificate

[Sonny Clark]

May I ask your age? So, a difference of opinion automatically means stupid? May I strongly suggest that you try to learn what civil mature discussion, conversation, and debate is, and practice the same? Personal attacks and name calling neither proves one's point, nor does it add to or encourage further discussion. Please try to be civil and refrain from name calling and personal attacks. Thanks.

Do not tell me what to do dude ... I have the Right to mock you for stubbornly hanging on to a stupid hope that Obama is not American...what is your opinion is the world flat or round?

I didn't tell you what to do, "Dude". I merely made suggestions, "Dude". And, your question about the world being flat or round is very silly and pathetic. May I ask your age?

I am past the age of 60 in fact when I was young the Dead sea was only running a slight fever no one thought anything of it ....they were wrong ...

Thanks. That information helps a lot. It greatly narrows down the possibilities.

about the Dead Sea ?

The Dead Sea is a non-issue.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The Dead Sea is a non-issue.

Its a grave matter....

 

[Sonny Clark]

The Dead Sea is a non-issue.

Its a grave matter....

How so ??

 

[Dana7360]

Weeeeeee! Birthers live......and they wants them some revolution!

Run for zee hills! Heat up that butter!!

Really ?? Pleeeeease !

Please what? You don't want violent protest in the streets? You aren't a Birther?

I'm mis-reading your posts?

I was referring to the silly childish nature of your response. Is there something wrong with civil mature conversation and debate? Yes, I would love protests in the streets all across America each and every day of the year until we correct the many wrongs. No, I'm not a "Birther", whatever that is. Do I believe that there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's birthplace? Yes, I do.

If you believe what you wrote at the end of your post, you're a birther.

Which makes you one who deserves nothing but distain and disgust.

You're too cowardly to even admit you're a birther. Typical of people like you, you have no spine.

Thanks. That's very nice of you. Anything else that you'd like to add since you seem to be on a roll here?

Sure.

Wake up and stop posting lies.

Obama was born in America. That's it. End of story.

People like you deserve all the scorn and ridicule you get.

This non issue was settled years ago.

Why have you not questioned any other president's birth certificate?

 

[rightwinger]

Really ?? Pleeeeease !

Please what? You don't want violent protest in the streets? You aren't a Birther?

I'm mis-reading your posts?

I was referring to the silly childish nature of your response. Is there something wrong with civil mature conversation and debate? Yes, I would love protests in the streets all across America each and every day of the year until we correct the many wrongs. No, I'm not a "Birther", whatever that is. Do I believe that there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's birthplace? Yes, I do.

If you believe what you wrote at the end of your post, you're a birther.

Which makes you one who deserves nothing but distain and disgust.

You're too cowardly to even admit you're a birther. Typical of people like you, you have no spine.

Thanks. That's very nice of you. Anything else that you'd like to add since you seem to be on a roll here?

Sure.

Wake up and stop posting lies.

Obama was born in America. That's it. End of story.

People like you deserve all the scorn and ridicule you get.

This non issue was settled years ago.

Why have you not questioned any other president's birth certificate?

That is the point

It is time to start asking all potential candidates for their Birth Certificates

Ted Cruz is definitely out.....anyone else who has a birth certificate that can withstand the scrutiny that Obamas had?

 

[Sonny Clark]

Really ?? Pleeeeease !

Please what? You don't want violent protest in the streets? You aren't a Birther?

I'm mis-reading your posts?

I was referring to the silly childish nature of your response. Is there something wrong with civil mature conversation and debate? Yes, I would love protests in the streets all across America each and every day of the year until we correct the many wrongs. No, I'm not a "Birther", whatever that is. Do I believe that there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's birthplace? Yes, I do.

If you believe what you wrote at the end of your post, you're a birther.

Which makes you one who deserves nothing but distain and disgust.

You're too cowardly to even admit you're a birther. Typical of people like you, you have no spine.

Thanks. That's very nice of you. Anything else that you'd like to add since you seem to be on a roll here?

Sure.

Wake up and stop posting lies.

Obama was born in America. That's it. End of story.

People like you deserve all the scorn and ridicule you get.

This non issue was settled years ago.

Why have you not questioned any other president's birth certificate?

Again, thanks for the response. Does that about cover it, or is there something that you forgot to add? Please, get it all out of your system while you're on a roll here. Hold nothing back. You'll feel much better once you let it all out.

 

[candycorn]

Whites have taken to the streets.
The country survived.

I swear you folks have the attention span of 3rd grader.

 

[Syriusly]

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?
.

Why would Birthers lie about such things?

Why would Birthers believe that President Barack Obama's college records 'sealed and labeled 'off limits' when Bush's and Clinton's- and every previous President's college records were treated the same way?(Bush's Yale records were illegally released, but Bush's Harvard records remain as 'sealed' as Obama's).

Why would Birthers believe that the President of the United States used a foreign student ID to get into college- when there is absolutely no record of that happening- other than the fevered imaginations of Birthers?

Why would Birthers lie about no one who attended college with President Obama remembering him- when there are numerous interviews with fellow students from Occidental College and Columbia and Harvard? What drives Birthers to make these lies?

Why do Birthers insist on treating President Obama differently than every previous Birthers- and why do Birthers lie?

 

[Syriusly]

Wow, I'm surprised that so many took to the streets to protest. See America, you can do it too.

-Geaux
========================================

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes, Arrests, One Death

It appears that only in less-developed nations do the people care about Presidential birth certificates. As GlobalVoices reports, clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo Ondimba. The publication of a book disputing the origins of the President (claiming him to be Nigerian) has led opposition parties to challenge the authenticity of the birth certificate of the head of state which has sparked widespread protests. The protests left 1 dead and many injured and arrested. As local media note, "if the government continues to refuse to negotiate, things could go very wrong."

As Global Voices reports,

Clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon on December 20 stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo.

A recent book called “New African Affairs” by French reporter Pierre Péan alleged that President Ali Bongo has Nigerian origins. The book was slammed by the authorities, accusing the reporter of inciting racial hatred in Gabon.

A hundred people were arrested. At least one man died without having now possible to establish in what circumstances. Several photos and videos circulating, showing the wounded in the face, on the roof of a car.

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes Arrests One Death Zero Hedge

We'll get there. Slowly, ever so slowly, the American people are taking to the streets for a variety of reasons. I still believe that we'll have to hit the proverbial "rock bottom" before enough people join in to make a difference, and bring about much needed change. In America, the corruption and abuse of power are embedded so deep, that many have accepted it as status quo. But, times are changing, and many citizens are feeling and experiencing the harsh reality of a system gone awry. Yes, Mr. Obama has many questions to answer concerning his origin of birth, and other equally important questions. Remember, the president of the United States is put in place by the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential. Those that want to continue their control, decide which puppet to put in the oval office.

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?

Yes, other countries have riots, protests, and civil unrest, and we're certainly not exempt from the same. Given the right circumstances, I can easily see America taking to the streets and demanding change, answers, and much needed representation. Many citizens are very close to the edge, and need only a slight push to get them actively involved and angry enough to take their frustrations to the nth degree. Remember, a cornered animal will try to fight its way out.

Indeed- Imagine if whites decided to 'protest' in the streets. It would be all but over for the secular progressive movement

-Geaux

We're getting there. Way too much is wrong in this country for it to go unchallenged forever. Peaceful and civil means don't always produce the desired results. There will come a time when force remains the only option. We'll either have to stand and be counted, or remain passive and surrender to defeat. United we stand, divided we fall.

Why do some Americans seem to think that inevitably they will end up using force to make other Americans agree with them?

 

[candycorn]

Wow, I'm surprised that so many took to the streets to protest. See America, you can do it too.

-Geaux
========================================

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes, Arrests, One Death

It appears that only in less-developed nations do the people care about Presidential birth certificates. As GlobalVoices reports, clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo Ondimba. The publication of a book disputing the origins of the President (claiming him to be Nigerian) has led opposition parties to challenge the authenticity of the birth certificate of the head of state which has sparked widespread protests. The protests left 1 dead and many injured and arrested. As local media note, "if the government continues to refuse to negotiate, things could go very wrong."

As Global Voices reports,

Clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon on December 20 stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo.

A recent book called “New African Affairs” by French reporter Pierre Péan alleged that President Ali Bongo has Nigerian origins. The book was slammed by the authorities, accusing the reporter of inciting racial hatred in Gabon.

A hundred people were arrested. At least one man died without having now possible to establish in what circumstances. Several photos and videos circulating, showing the wounded in the face, on the roof of a car.

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes Arrests One Death Zero Hedge

We'll get there. Slowly, ever so slowly, the American people are taking to the streets for a variety of reasons. I still believe that we'll have to hit the proverbial "rock bottom" before enough people join in to make a difference, and bring about much needed change. In America, the corruption and abuse of power are embedded so deep, that many have accepted it as status quo. But, times are changing, and many citizens are feeling and experiencing the harsh reality of a system gone awry. Yes, Mr. Obama has many questions to answer concerning his origin of birth, and other equally important questions. Remember, the president of the United States is put in place by the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential. Those that want to continue their control, decide which puppet to put in the oval office.

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?

Yes, other countries have riots, protests, and civil unrest, and we're certainly not exempt from the same. Given the right circumstances, I can easily see America taking to the streets and demanding change, answers, and much needed representation. Many citizens are very close to the edge, and need only a slight push to get them actively involved and angry enough to take their frustrations to the nth degree. Remember, a cornered animal will try to fight its way out.

Indeed- Imagine if whites decided to 'protest' in the streets. It would be all but over for the secular progressive movement

-Geaux

We're getting there. Way too much is wrong in this country for it to go unchallenged forever. Peaceful and civil means don't always produce the desired results. There will come a time when force remains the only option. We'll either have to stand and be counted, or remain passive and surrender to defeat. United we stand, divided we fall.

Why do some Americans seem to think that inevitably they will end up using force to make other Americans agree with them?

]

Cartoons. These are the same people who believe professional wresting is real.

 

[Syriusly]

Please what? You don't want violent protest in the streets? You aren't a Birther?

I'm mis-reading your posts?

I was referring to the silly childish nature of your response. Is there something wrong with civil mature conversation and debate? Yes, I would love protests in the streets all across America each and every day of the year until we correct the many wrongs. No, I'm not a "Birther", whatever that is. Do I believe that there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's birthplace? Yes, I do.

That makes you a Birther. Own it.

Based on that alone.....and apart from the fact that you are calling for civil unrest like they are having in Nigeria.....you will get childish replies. It is what you deserve. You are not capable of having a mature conversation.

Well, It's obvious that you're certainly not capable. In the first place, when you resort to name calling and/or personal attacks, the level of your conversations and/or responses speak for itself. And secondly, both are totally uncalled for and prove absolutely nothing. It only serves to make the person engaging in such, look foolish and immature. Do you have something against mature and civil conversation? Just curious.

Listen, please.

If you believe that there are "questions" that are unanswered regarding Barack Obama's place of birth.....you are not a mature adult. I decided long ago that mocking people who believe that is better than trying to get them to grasp the facts of the matter. It's more satisfying and at least pays off with a laugh or two.

Spending even a minute "discussing" Barack Obama's place of birth with someone who questions it.....no matter how pleasant and "civil" you are......is simply not something that I will do. Once you go there....you lose ALL credibility. You have none. Zilch. Nada. Engaging you in a serious discussion becomes silly. Get it?

Nothing you ever say here will be viewed by me as coming from an intelligent person. I have no choice but to mock you.

I expected nothing less. By the way, believe it or not, there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's origin of birth. I do realize that the "Obamanites" shun anything that questions anything about him. There are those like yourself that honestly believe that if Mr. Obama says it, then it is the gospel and goes without question..

No- there are no 'legitimate questions' remaining about President Obama's place of birth. Perhaps that claim could be made in 2008. With a huge stretch of the imagination perhaps I could accept that up until April 2011.

But in April 2011, not only did President Obama show reporters certified photocopies of his original birth certificate- the State of Hawaii officially and unequivocally declared that President Obama was born in Hawaii- which by the way the State of Hawaii also stated in 2009.

We have have vastly more proof of where President Obama was born than we have ever had for any previous President.

So no- there is no 'legitimate question'- that is why Congress not only confirmed President Obama's election without a single election(twice) but has passed a resolution recognizing Hawaii as where President Obama was born.

 

[Syriusly]

Please what? You don't want violent protest in the streets? You aren't a Birther?

I'm mis-reading your posts?

I was referring to the silly childish nature of your response. Is there something wrong with civil mature conversation and debate? Yes, I would love protests in the streets all across America each and every day of the year until we correct the many wrongs. No, I'm not a "Birther", whatever that is. Do I believe that there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's birthplace? Yes, I do.

If you believe what you wrote at the end of your post, you're a birther.

Which makes you one who deserves nothing but distain and disgust.

You're too cowardly to even admit you're a birther. Typical of people like you, you have no spine.

Thanks. That's very nice of you. Anything else that you'd like to add since you seem to be on a roll here?

Sure.

Wake up and stop posting lies.

Obama was born in America. That's it. End of story.

People like you deserve all the scorn and ridicule you get.

This non issue was settled years ago.

Why have you not questioned any other president's birth certificate?

That is the point

It is time to start asking all potential candidates for their Birth Certificates

Ted Cruz is definitely out.....anyone else who has a birth certificate that can withstand the scrutiny that Obamas had?

It is worth pointing out that not a single person who has said there are questions about President Obama's place of birth ever asked candidate Mitt Romney to prove his place of birth.

Birthers just assumed he was born in the United States.

So much for treating everyone the same.

 

[rightwinger]

I was referring to the silly childish nature of your response. Is there something wrong with civil mature conversation and debate? Yes, I would love protests in the streets all across America each and every day of the year until we correct the many wrongs. No, I'm not a "Birther", whatever that is. Do I believe that there are legitimate questions concerning Mr. Obama's birthplace? Yes, I do.

If you believe what you wrote at the end of your post, you're a birther.

Which makes you one who deserves nothing but distain and disgust.

You're too cowardly to even admit you're a birther. Typical of people like you, you have no spine.

Thanks. That's very nice of you. Anything else that you'd like to add since you seem to be on a roll here?

Sure.

Wake up and stop posting lies.

Obama was born in America. That's it. End of story.

People like you deserve all the scorn and ridicule you get.

This non issue was settled years ago.

Why have you not questioned any other president's birth certificate?

That is the point

It is time to start asking all potential candidates for their Birth Certificates

Ted Cruz is definitely out.....anyone else who has a birth certificate that can withstand the scrutiny that Obamas had?

It is worth pointing out that not a single person who has said there are questions about President Obama's place of birth ever asked candidate Mitt Romney to prove his place of birth.

Birthers just assumed he was born in the United States.

So much for treating everyone the same.

What was really funny was all of those state laws being proposed requiring Presidential candidates to present "acceptable" birth certificates prior to the 2012 election

Somehow they were all dropped after the election and I doubt if they will be resurrected for Ted Cruz

 

[Sonny Clark]

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?
.

Why would Birthers lie about such things?

Why would Birthers believe that President Barack Obama's college records 'sealed and labeled 'off limits' when Bush's and Clinton's- and every previous President's college records were treated the same way?(Bush's Yale records were illegally released, but Bush's Harvard records remain as 'sealed' as Obama's).

Why would Birthers believe that the President of the United States used a foreign student ID to get into college- when there is absolutely no record of that happening- other than the fevered imaginations of Birthers?

Why would Birthers lie about no one who attended college with President Obama remembering him- when there are numerous interviews with fellow students from Occidental College and Columbia and Harvard? What drives Birthers to make these lies?

Why do Birthers insist on treating President Obama differently than every previous Birthers- and why do Birthers lie?

OK. I get it now. So, everyone is not being honest. Everyone is fabricating all of their information. And, it's all about hate and dislike for Mr. Obama. It's all anti-America trouble making misfits that love to instigate and push unfounded rumors and lies. It's about the voters that are sore losers, and didn't want Mr. Obama to become president. It's all about Mr. Obama's mixed race. It's all about just having something to talk about and generate anti-America conversation and ill-founded propaganda. I understand the lies now. Yes, it has to be Obama haters. It has to be racists and bigots. And, as the rumors spread, they grew in size. First came the questions, then came the multitude of opinions and scenarios, and then the vicious attacks that satisfied those wanting food for their hatred and dislike. We were all caught up in the suspicions and negative rhetoric that fuel doubt, and kept the hope alive that we were right.

Now, satisfied? Did I about cover everything? Or, did I leave something important out? Is what I just said close to what is actually taking place with those that have questions?

 

[Sonny Clark]

Wow, I'm surprised that so many took to the streets to protest. See America, you can do it too.

-Geaux
========================================

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes, Arrests, One Death

It appears that only in less-developed nations do the people care about Presidential birth certificates. As GlobalVoices reports, clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo Ondimba. The publication of a book disputing the origins of the President (claiming him to be Nigerian) has led opposition parties to challenge the authenticity of the birth certificate of the head of state which has sparked widespread protests. The protests left 1 dead and many injured and arrested. As local media note, "if the government continues to refuse to negotiate, things could go very wrong."

As Global Voices reports,

Clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon on December 20 stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo.

A recent book called “New African Affairs” by French reporter Pierre Péan alleged that President Ali Bongo has Nigerian origins. The book was slammed by the authorities, accusing the reporter of inciting racial hatred in Gabon.

A hundred people were arrested. At least one man died without having now possible to establish in what circumstances. Several photos and videos circulating, showing the wounded in the face, on the roof of a car.

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes Arrests One Death Zero Hedge

We'll get there. Slowly, ever so slowly, the American people are taking to the streets for a variety of reasons. I still believe that we'll have to hit the proverbial "rock bottom" before enough people join in to make a difference, and bring about much needed change. In America, the corruption and abuse of power are embedded so deep, that many have accepted it as status quo. But, times are changing, and many citizens are feeling and experiencing the harsh reality of a system gone awry. Yes, Mr. Obama has many questions to answer concerning his origin of birth, and other equally important questions. Remember, the president of the United States is put in place by the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential. Those that want to continue their control, decide which puppet to put in the oval office.

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?

Yes, other countries have riots, protests, and civil unrest, and we're certainly not exempt from the same. Given the right circumstances, I can easily see America taking to the streets and demanding change, answers, and much needed representation. Many citizens are very close to the edge, and need only a slight push to get them actively involved and angry enough to take their frustrations to the nth degree. Remember, a cornered animal will try to fight its way out.

Indeed- Imagine if whites decided to 'protest' in the streets. It would be all but over for the secular progressive movement

-Geaux

We're getting there. Way too much is wrong in this country for it to go unchallenged forever. Peaceful and civil means don't always produce the desired results. There will come a time when force remains the only option. We'll either have to stand and be counted, or remain passive and surrender to defeat. United we stand, divided we fall.

Why do some Americans seem to think that inevitably they will end up using force to make other Americans agree with them?

It's not a matter of agreement. Far from it. It's a matter of right and wrong, equal justice, principles, morals, common sense, rights and freedom, integrity within government, true representation, and the founding principles that says we all have a voice, and that voice is not to be silenced. No, there will never come a time when everyone agrees 100% of the time on 100% of the issues. There will never come a time when politics satisfies every need and every want. I honestly don't believe that anyone expects that.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Wow, I'm surprised that so many took to the streets to protest. See America, you can do it too.

-Geaux
========================================

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes, Arrests, One Death

It appears that only in less-developed nations do the people care about Presidential birth certificates. As GlobalVoices reports, clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo Ondimba. The publication of a book disputing the origins of the President (claiming him to be Nigerian) has led opposition parties to challenge the authenticity of the birth certificate of the head of state which has sparked widespread protests. The protests left 1 dead and many injured and arrested. As local media note, "if the government continues to refuse to negotiate, things could go very wrong."

As Global Voices reports,

Clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon on December 20 stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo.

A recent book called “New African Affairs” by French reporter Pierre Péan alleged that President Ali Bongo has Nigerian origins. The book was slammed by the authorities, accusing the reporter of inciting racial hatred in Gabon.

A hundred people were arrested. At least one man died without having now possible to establish in what circumstances. Several photos and videos circulating, showing the wounded in the face, on the roof of a car.

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes Arrests One Death Zero Hedge

We'll get there. Slowly, ever so slowly, the American people are taking to the streets for a variety of reasons. I still believe that we'll have to hit the proverbial "rock bottom" before enough people join in to make a difference, and bring about much needed change. In America, the corruption and abuse of power are embedded so deep, that many have accepted it as status quo. But, times are changing, and many citizens are feeling and experiencing the harsh reality of a system gone awry. Yes, Mr. Obama has many questions to answer concerning his origin of birth, and other equally important questions. Remember, the president of the United States is put in place by the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential. Those that want to continue their control, decide which puppet to put in the oval office.

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?

Yes, other countries have riots, protests, and civil unrest, and we're certainly not exempt from the same. Given the right circumstances, I can easily see America taking to the streets and demanding change, answers, and much needed representation. Many citizens are very close to the edge, and need only a slight push to get them actively involved and angry enough to take their frustrations to the nth degree. Remember, a cornered animal will try to fight its way out.

Indeed- Imagine if whites decided to 'protest' in the streets. It would be all but over for the secular progressive movement

-Geaux

We're getting there. Way too much is wrong in this country for it to go unchallenged forever. Peaceful and civil means don't always produce the desired results. There will come a time when force remains the only option. We'll either have to stand and be counted, or remain passive and surrender to defeat. United we stand, divided we fall.

Why do some Americans seem to think that inevitably they will end up using force to make other Americans agree with them?

]

Cartoons. These are the same people who believe professional wresting is real.

Well, I certainly know that professional wrestling is as fake as fake can be, and have always known that.

 

[Syriusly]

Wow, I'm surprised that so many took to the streets to protest. See America, you can do it too.

-Geaux
========================================

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes, Arrests, One Death

It appears that only in less-developed nations do the people care about Presidential birth certificates. As GlobalVoices reports, clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo Ondimba. The publication of a book disputing the origins of the President (claiming him to be Nigerian) has led opposition parties to challenge the authenticity of the birth certificate of the head of state which has sparked widespread protests. The protests left 1 dead and many injured and arrested. As local media note, "if the government continues to refuse to negotiate, things could go very wrong."

As Global Voices reports,

Clashes broke out between police and the opposition in Gabon on December 20 stemming from questions about the legitimacy of President Ali Bongo.

A recent book called “New African Affairs” by French reporter Pierre Péan alleged that President Ali Bongo has Nigerian origins. The book was slammed by the authorities, accusing the reporter of inciting racial hatred in Gabon.

A hundred people were arrested. At least one man died without having now possible to establish in what circumstances. Several photos and videos circulating, showing the wounded in the face, on the roof of a car.

A Presidential Birth Certificate Controversy Leads To Clashes Arrests One Death Zero Hedge

We'll get there. Slowly, ever so slowly, the American people are taking to the streets for a variety of reasons. I still believe that we'll have to hit the proverbial "rock bottom" before enough people join in to make a difference, and bring about much needed change. In America, the corruption and abuse of power are embedded so deep, that many have accepted it as status quo. But, times are changing, and many citizens are feeling and experiencing the harsh reality of a system gone awry. Yes, Mr. Obama has many questions to answer concerning his origin of birth, and other equally important questions. Remember, the president of the United States is put in place by the wealthy, the powerful, and the influential. Those that want to continue their control, decide which puppet to put in the oval office.

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?

Yes, other countries have riots, protests, and civil unrest, and we're certainly not exempt from the same. Given the right circumstances, I can easily see America taking to the streets and demanding change, answers, and much needed representation. Many citizens are very close to the edge, and need only a slight push to get them actively involved and angry enough to take their frustrations to the nth degree. Remember, a cornered animal will try to fight its way out.

Indeed- Imagine if whites decided to 'protest' in the streets. It would be all but over for the secular progressive movement

-Geaux

We're getting there. Way too much is wrong in this country for it to go unchallenged forever. Peaceful and civil means don't always produce the desired results. There will come a time when force remains the only option. We'll either have to stand and be counted, or remain passive and surrender to defeat. United we stand, divided we fall.

Why do some Americans seem to think that inevitably they will end up using force to make other Americans agree with them?

It's not a matter of agreement. Far from it. It's a matter of right and wrong, equal justice, principles, morals, common sense, rights and freedom, integrity within government, true representation, and the founding principles that says we all have a voice, and that voice is not to be silenced. No, there will never come a time when everyone agrees 100% of the time on 100% of the issues. There will never come a time when politics satisfies every need and every want. I honestly don't believe that anyone expects that.

Certainly it is a matter of agreement- when people 'use force' it is the people using force who are insisting that their opinions matter more than those who are not using force.

 

[Asclepias]

How do these idiots get access to the internet?

 

[Syriusly]

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?
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Why would Birthers lie about such things?

Why would Birthers believe that President Barack Obama's college records 'sealed and labeled 'off limits' when Bush's and Clinton's- and every previous President's college records were treated the same way?(Bush's Yale records were illegally released, but Bush's Harvard records remain as 'sealed' as Obama's).

Why would Birthers believe that the President of the United States used a foreign student ID to get into college- when there is absolutely no record of that happening- other than the fevered imaginations of Birthers?

Why would Birthers lie about no one who attended college with President Obama remembering him- when there are numerous interviews with fellow students from Occidental College and Columbia and Harvard? What drives Birthers to make these lies?

Why do Birthers insist on treating President Obama differently than every previous Birthers- and why do Birthers lie?

OK. I get it now. So, everyone is not being honest. Everyone is fabricating all of their information. And, it's all about hate and dislike for Mr. Obama.

Yet you didn't address any of the questions- did you?

See you made a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations- and I challenged you to address them- so lets go over again:

Why would Birthers believe that President Barack Obama's college records 'sealed and labeled 'off limits' when Bush's and Clinton's- and every previous President's college records were treated the same way?(Bush's Yale records were illegally released, but Bush's Harvard records remain as 'sealed' as Obama's).

I say 'Birther' because that is a generic term- but why do you believe this?

Why would Birthers believe that the President of the United States used a foreign student ID to get into college- when there is absolutely no record of that happening- other than the fevered imaginations of Birthers?

I say 'Birther'- but I mean you- why do you believe this?

Why would Birthers lie about no one who attended college with President Obama remembering him- when there are numerous interviews with fellow students from Occidental College and Columbia and Harvard? What drives Birthers to make these lies?

I say Birther- because Birthers have made this lie for years- and you are either lying- or you are a gullible Birther who just believes what he has been fed. Which is it?

And finally:

Why do Birthers insist on treating President Obama differently than every previous President?

And by Birther- I mean you.

 

[Asclepias]

Why would the president of the United States have his/her college records sealed and labeled "off limits"? Why would the president of the United States use a foreign student ID, with a different name ( Barry Sorrento ) to get into college? Why doesn't anyone that attended college at the same time as Mr. Obama remember him? What is Mr. Obama hiding, and why is he hiding it?
.

Why would Birthers lie about such things?

Why would Birthers believe that President Barack Obama's college records 'sealed and labeled 'off limits' when Bush's and Clinton's- and every previous President's college records were treated the same way?(Bush's Yale records were illegally released, but Bush's Harvard records remain as 'sealed' as Obama's).

Why would Birthers believe that the President of the United States used a foreign student ID to get into college- when there is absolutely no record of that happening- other than the fevered imaginations of Birthers?

Why would Birthers lie about no one who attended college with President Obama remembering him- when there are numerous interviews with fellow students from Occidental College and Columbia and Harvard? What drives Birthers to make these lies?

Why do Birthers insist on treating President Obama differently than every previous Birthers- and why do Birthers lie?

OK. I get it now. So, everyone is not being honest. Everyone is fabricating all of their information. And, it's all about hate and dislike for Mr. Obama.

Yet you didn't address any of the questions- did you?

See you made a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations- and I challenged you to address them- so lets go over again:

Why would Birthers believe that President Barack Obama's college records 'sealed and labeled 'off limits' when Bush's and Clinton's- and every previous President's college records were treated the same way?(Bush's Yale records were illegally released, but Bush's Harvard records remain as 'sealed' as Obama's).

I say 'Birther' because that is a generic term- but why do you believe this?

Why would Birthers believe that the President of the United States used a foreign student ID to get into college- when there is absolutely no record of that happening- other than the fevered imaginations of Birthers?

I say 'Birther'- but I mean you- why do you believe this?

Why would Birthers lie about no one who attended college with President Obama remembering him- when there are numerous interviews with fellow students from Occidental College and Columbia and Harvard? What drives Birthers to make these lies?

I say Birther- because Birthers have made this lie for years- and you are either lying- or you are a gullible Birther who just believes what he has been fed. Which is it?

And finally:

Why do Birthers insist on treating President Obama differently than every previous President?

And by Birther- I mean you.

Let them rant. They cant do anything about it anyway. They are just idiots.