Stephen Crowder, Top 5 AR-15 myths...banning them is a Trojan Horse...

[2aguy]

And you do not see the stupidity of banning a .223 caliber semiautomatic rifle for cosmetic reasons alone?

There is no difference between the AR 15 and any other semiautomatic .223 rifle other than cosmetics

Did the military pick that design for strictly cosmetic reasons?

The military model is a different gun.

I don't know how many times you have to be told that. What does it matter that a civilian .223 semiautomatic rifle has a plastic stock instead of a wood stock? No civilian rifle performs like a military rifle.

Now why don't you tell me what makes this gun

any different from this gun

Other than how they look. Both are civilian semiautomatic rifles chambered for .223. Both have comparable accuracy. Both fire the same one round per trigger pull.

There is absolutely no functional difference between the 2 rifles.

If you knew anything about the subject you would know this

You should ask the military that question. They are the ones that chose it to be a combat assault weapon in 1963, and designated it as the M16.

AR 15 Rifle - A Brief History & Historical Time Line

Wrong...the AR-15 never saw combat...the select fire version...the M-16 has, and the M4 Carbine, but the AR-15 has never been used in war...it is not a war weapon...it is not a select fire weapon.....you can keep lying all you want, you just keep showing us why we can never trust anti gunners...

Of course it didn't. When the military bought it, they designated it as the M16. The newly named (at that time) M16 design has had no substantial changes since then.

And they didn't use the AR-15 they turned it into a different rifle, the M-16.....a select fire weapon with a full auto selection...dumb ass........they did not use the AR-15.....it wasn't used in combat.......they changed the internal mechanism making it a different rifle.....

6 shot revolvers....actually used in war.

lever action rifles...actually used in war.

Bolt action rifles...actually used in war, currently used in war. They were the rifle that conquered Europe and Asia during World War 2.....

pump action shotguns....used in war in the past, currently used in war....

AR-15...never used in war....

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes,those are 2 of the reasons it is a more effective killing tool than other rifles.

It is not a more effective killing tool than any other .223 semiauto

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

 

[2aguy]

It is not a more effective killing tool than any other .223 semiauto

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

Yeah...after the CNN town hall where they all shouted they wanted to ban all semi auto guns....you no longer have the ability to make posts like that..................

 

[2aguy]

It is not a more effective killing tool than any other .223 semiauto

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

Yes...they want to repeal the Lawful commerce in arms act....to sue gun makers out of existence on phony gun lawsuits, and they are using the courts to pass laws that violate both the 2nd Amendment and settled Supreme Court decisions.......

 

[toobfreak]

Crowder nails it....

He demonstrates the rate of fire with a .357 lever action rifle.....he shows a semi auto shotgun....

The anti gunners want them too....

Liberal anti-gunners are not about facts or reality. They are only about one thing: well-trained sheeple ready to disarm their country out of fear against a faux-foe in the assistance of an all-powerful government to the creation of an inevitable police state. Then the government will be free to disregard the rest of our rights and criminals will live without fear of retaliation from a defenseless populace of victims.

And what will the hapless brainless sheeple do then once they've "solved" our problems for us? Cringe under their coffee tables calling 911 and waiting for help to arrive in time (it never does).

 

[BULLDOG]

Did the military pick that design for strictly cosmetic reasons?

The military model is a different gun.

I don't know how many times you have to be told that. What does it matter that a civilian .223 semiautomatic rifle has a plastic stock instead of a wood stock? No civilian rifle performs like a military rifle.

Now why don't you tell me what makes this gun

any different from this gun

Other than how they look. Both are civilian semiautomatic rifles chambered for .223. Both have comparable accuracy. Both fire the same one round per trigger pull.

There is absolutely no functional difference between the 2 rifles.

If you knew anything about the subject you would know this

You should ask the military that question. They are the ones that chose it to be a combat assault weapon in 1963, and designated it as the M16.

AR 15 Rifle - A Brief History & Historical Time Line

Wrong...the AR-15 never saw combat...the select fire version...the M-16 has, and the M4 Carbine, but the AR-15 has never been used in war...it is not a war weapon...it is not a select fire weapon.....you can keep lying all you want, you just keep showing us why we can never trust anti gunners...

Of course it didn't. When the military bought it, they designated it as the M16. The newly named (at that time) M16 design has had no substantial changes since then.

And they didn't use the AR-15 they turned it into a different rifle, the M-16.....a select fire weapon with a full auto selection...dumb ass........they did not use the AR-15.....it wasn't used in combat.......they changed the internal mechanism making it a different rifle.....

6 shot revolvers....actually used in war.

lever action rifles...actually used in war.

Bolt action rifles...actually used in war, currently used in war. They were the rifle that conquered Europe and Asia during World War 2.....

pump action shotguns....used in war in the past, currently used in war....

AR-15...never used in war....

They changed the internal mechanism after they bought the design? Link?

 

[BULLDOG]

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

Yeah...after the CNN town hall where they all shouted they wanted to ban all semi auto guns....you no longer have the ability to make posts like that..................

Really? All people who would rather not have their kids killed at school want to ban all semi auto rifles? That's amazing. Did Alex Jones tell you that?

 

[BULLDOG]

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

Yes...they want to repeal the Lawful commerce in arms act....to sue gun makers out of existence on phony gun lawsuits, and they are using the courts to pass laws that violate both the 2nd Amendment and settled Supreme Court decisions.......

So people who support reasonable gun control are using the legal routs laid out for them by the constitution to bring the change that the majority of the country wants. How horrible.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I've done a bit of research on the AR15 today. Some of the things I thought were wrong. However, the fact that the AR 15 is a slightly modified clone of the military M16 assault rifle has not changed. We don't need military assault rifles on the street. even those that are slightly modified

Who the hell walks around out on the streets with an AR-15? How are a bunch of gun enthusiasts with AR-15s sitting in a case at home more dangerous than the millions of concealed handguns people walk around with everyday?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Really? All people who would rather not have their kids killed at school want to ban all semi auto rifles? That's amazing. Did Alex Jones tell you that?

Nobody can shoot up a school with a semi-auto handgun?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So people who support reasonable gun control are using the legal routs laid out for them by the constitution to bring the change that the majority of the country wants. How horrible.

Define "reasonable" gun control.

 

[2aguy]

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

Yes...they want to repeal the Lawful commerce in arms act....to sue gun makers out of existence on phony gun lawsuits, and they are using the courts to pass laws that violate both the 2nd Amendment and settled Supreme Court decisions.......

So people who support reasonable gun control are using the legal routs laid out for them by the constitution to bring the change that the majority of the country wants. How horrible.

Suing gun makers who have no part in crime or mass shootings is not reasonable.....gun laws that target law abiding gun owners and do not stop criminals or mass shooters are not reasonable..........laws that violate the 2nd Amendment are not reasonable......

 

[Skull Pilot]

And you do not see the stupidity of banning a .223 caliber semiautomatic rifle for cosmetic reasons alone?

There is no difference between the AR 15 and any other semiautomatic .223 rifle other than cosmetics

Did the military pick that design for strictly cosmetic reasons?

The military model is a different gun.

I don't know how many times you have to be told that. What does it matter that a civilian .223 semiautomatic rifle has a plastic stock instead of a wood stock? No civilian rifle performs like a military rifle.

Now why don't you tell me what makes this gun

any different from this gun

Other than how they look. Both are civilian semiautomatic rifles chambered for .223. Both have comparable accuracy. Both fire the same one round per trigger pull.

There is absolutely no functional difference between the 2 rifles.

If you knew anything about the subject you would know this

You should ask the military that question. They are the ones that chose it to be a combat assault weapon in 1963, and designated it as the M16.

AR 15 Rifle - A Brief History & Historical Time Line

I'm asking you.

A gun that capable of automatic fire is NOT the same as a gun that is not capable of automatic fire

That is about as simply as I can explain it to you.

If you cannot understand that don't bother me anymore because I don't argue with the mentally retarded

Yes, that is a difference, but automatic fire is not the only reason that design was chosen as the military's goto weapon. They could have had AF with any number of other guns. Yes the design has been slightly modified to bypass the AF, but all the other qualities that convinced the military that that particular design would be the best tool for killing as many people as possible in as short of time as possible are still present.

It is the only meaningful difference.

The bottom rifle can fire just as fast as the Ar 15.

Composite materials generally stand up to abuse better than natural substances like wood since they are more resistant to moisture, weather and impacts it has nothing to do with the lethality of the weapon

 

[Hossfly]

 

[Skull Pilot]

No, the M-16 was picked for practical reasons. It is shorter than the M-1 by 4'' (better for going thru jungle) and lighter by 3-4 pounds. ( better for being in hot climate) plus carrying more ammo.)

Yes,those are 2 of the reasons it is a more effective killing tool than other rifles.

It is not a more effective killing tool than any other .223 semiauto

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Perhaps you care to give a few specs on that gun? I'm far from an expert, but I know there are lots more reasons than caliber for why a rifle might be effective for a particular purpose.

The reason the .223 has become the dominant caliber is because the ammo is lighter and in fact less lethal than previous military rifles. The idea being that by wounding rather than killing enemy soldiers you force them to use more resources.

 

[BULLDOG]

I've done a bit of research on the AR15 today. Some of the things I thought were wrong. However, the fact that the AR 15 is a slightly modified clone of the military M16 assault rifle has not changed. We don't need military assault rifles on the street. even those that are slightly modified

Who the hell walks around out on the streets with an AR-15? How are a bunch of gun enthusiasts with AR-15s sitting in a case at home more dangerous than the millions of concealed handguns people walk around with everyday?

 

[Skull Pilot]

It is not a more effective killing tool than any other .223 semiauto

The military thinks it is.

SO I could have a semiautomatic rifle that fires a larger more powerful round like the 6.8 as this rifle does

and that just fine because it doesn't look like an M16

Very often that is the case.

In a similar discussion on another board, I posted a pics of my M1A and a pic of an AR. People were far more concerned with the AR.

The anti gunners know, though. That is why they are now calling for banning all semi automatic rifles...as we heard at the CNN hate rally this week......and also why they are using the term "weapons of war," Since they know they can get to the rest of our rifles if they can only get the AR-15 banned ...since the all operate with the same action....

Again with the " They're coming to get all our guns!!!!!!! " craziness. Grow up dummy.

Then tell me what is the reason for banning one particular semiautomatic rifle when all other semiautomatic rifles of the same caliber perform exactly the same as the banned rifle.

The only reason to start with one particular rifle is to expand the ban to all other semiautomatic rifles

 

[Skull Pilot]

The military model is a different gun.

I don't know how many times you have to be told that. What does it matter that a civilian .223 semiautomatic rifle has a plastic stock instead of a wood stock? No civilian rifle performs like a military rifle.

Now why don't you tell me what makes this gun

any different from this gun

Other than how they look. Both are civilian semiautomatic rifles chambered for .223. Both have comparable accuracy. Both fire the same one round per trigger pull.

There is absolutely no functional difference between the 2 rifles.

If you knew anything about the subject you would know this

You should ask the military that question. They are the ones that chose it to be a combat assault weapon in 1963, and designated it as the M16.

AR 15 Rifle - A Brief History & Historical Time Line

Wrong...the AR-15 never saw combat...the select fire version...the M-16 has, and the M4 Carbine, but the AR-15 has never been used in war...it is not a war weapon...it is not a select fire weapon.....you can keep lying all you want, you just keep showing us why we can never trust anti gunners...

Of course it didn't. When the military bought it, they designated it as the M16. The newly named (at that time) M16 design has had no substantial changes since then.

And they didn't use the AR-15 they turned it into a different rifle, the M-16.....a select fire weapon with a full auto selection...dumb ass........they did not use the AR-15.....it wasn't used in combat.......they changed the internal mechanism making it a different rifle.....

6 shot revolvers....actually used in war.

lever action rifles...actually used in war.

Bolt action rifles...actually used in war, currently used in war. They were the rifle that conquered Europe and Asia during World War 2.....

pump action shotguns....used in war in the past, currently used in war....

AR-15...never used in war....

They changed the internal mechanism after they bought the design? Link?

What do you think they did?

File off a little nub and PRESTO a fully automatic rifle!!!

 

[BULLDOG]

Really? All people who would rather not have their kids killed at school want to ban all semi auto rifles? That's amazing. Did Alex Jones tell you that?

Nobody can shoot up a school with a semi-auto handgun?

Your canned gun nut responses are funny. Which semi-auto handgun can fire as many bullets as fast as the AR is capable of? Which semi-auto hand guns have 30 round magazines? Which semi-automatic handguns are as accurate over a wide range as a rifle?

 

[BULLDOG]

So people who support reasonable gun control are using the legal routs laid out for them by the constitution to bring the change that the majority of the country wants. How horrible.

Define "reasonable" gun control.

Universal background checks would be a start. Trump-0 made it easier for crazies to get guns. It would be nice to reverse that too.