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Stop Blaming Israel For the Gaza War

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I'm aware of the Likud Charter, as well.
Are you?
Likud wants no Palestinian state west of the Jordan River.
What does that tell you about the Jew's plans for Gaza?


"Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group’s Charter rejects Israel’s right to exist, it’s worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999:

a. “'The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.'

b. “'Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem'

c. “'The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.'

d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel.

"The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting."

The Hateful Likud Charter Calls for Destruction of Any Palestinian State | Informed Comment

Can you figure out which charter has the most chance of success in Palestine?

try again------the LIKUD statement does not exclude a state for the people who call themselves
"palesstinians" in the LEVANT ---(keeping in mind that just about the entire LEVANT is
the historic "Palestina" ad described by Herodotus----an idea that makes sense even today both
culturally and linquistically) HOWEVER the hamas charter and the filth of shariah in general
excludes a jewish homeland ANYWHERE in the LEVANT which shariah enthusiasts actually do consider
all "MUSLIM LAND" The Jordan river does seem to be a natural border -------
natural borders make good borders --------no border works for a CALIPHATE MAN-----you
got some UMMAHNIKS ready to give up THE CALIPHATE aka DAR AL ISLAM?
The Hamas Charter ceased to be operational with the forming of the latest unity government in Palestine. The Likud Charter on the other hand makes no mention of the Levant, Herodotus, or sharia in general, it clearly states there will be no Arab state west of the Jordan river, which would seem to include Gaza and the West Bank. Why do you try to lie about the Zionist goal of controlling all of Palestine by Jews?





How about a link then georgie boy that shows the hamas charter is no longer operational. The way it was set up makes it impossible to alter or rescind without a quorum of at least 75% OF THE HAMAS LEADERSHIP
The likud charter is not binding and was rescinded when it was seen to cause problems for the party. Clutching at straws again georgie and running it into the ground.
 
Nonsense. There is no "context"other than the Muslim jihad clearly stated in the Hamas Charter. Are you "ignorant" of THAT ?
Are you ignorant the Charter is an outdated document they no longer follow, or are you just too pussy to admit it?




And you can of course produce the evidence to support this claim, as didn't hamas use their charter as justification to attack Israel in July ?

keep trying dildo as one day you just might get it right, but then it will snow in hell
 
Israel shot dead four Palestinian children between 12/13 and 5/14, including one 15 year-old shot in the back from 100 meters away; how many rockets did Hamas retaliate with during those six months? Israel has failed to live up to the "ceasefire" it agreed to in 2012; why is that? Because Israel wants all of historical Palestine for Jews ALONE.

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Only if you promise to WHINE LOUDLY about the source:

"However, reaction to the recent unity government announced in April this year was very different. A government of ‘technocrats’ – comprising not a single Hamas member – was endorsed by both Fatah and Hamas in an attempt to end the isolation and strangulation of the Gaza strip.

"As noted in the Independent at the time, this new government would 'adhere to the conditions of the Middle East Quartet [the EU, UN Russia and US], recognise Israel, ratify all signed agreements and renounce violence' according to a 'senior Palestinian official' quoted on the Times of Israel site.

"As such, it was welcomed by both the US and the EU.

"Israel no longer had ‘Palestinian disunity’ as an excuse for refusing to engage in peace talks.

"Nor did they have ‘terrorism’ as an excuse, as Hamas had steadfastly stood by the terms of the 2012 ceasefire, not only ceasing their own rocket fire, but also successfully preventing rocket attacks by other Palestinian groups in Gaza.

"And all this despite continuous violations of the ceasefire by Israel beginning before the ink was even dry – from a refusal to lift the blockade (as required by the ceasefire terms), to continued attacks on Palestinians, killing 4 and maiming nearly 100 within the first three months of the ‘ceasefire’ alone.

"Even after Israeli attacks were stepped up over the past year, with four Palestinian children shot dead by Israeli forces between December 2013 and May 2014, including a 15 year old shot in the back from 100m, Hamas held their fire.

"Netanyahu’s narrative of negotiations being impossible due to..."

Israel?s Real Target is Not Hamas » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names




A pity your source is

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So hardly an unbiased source of your POV, while you use proven ISLAMONAZI SOURCES you will be laughed at and seen as a complete moron.
 
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The only was this all goes away is if 80% of Gazans agree to leave their homes, businesses and farms and move to unknown parts of the world while a roughly equal number of Jew squatters flood into Gaza and solve the housing crisis in Israel.


what "businesses and farms" ?? Gaza is a concentration camp. People don't have businesses and
farms in concentration camps Were there businesses and farms in Auschwitz? The Gazans
should be happy to leave the CONCENTRATION CAMP-------as I recall---GETTING out to anywhere
was the biggie for all the inmates of Auschwitz
Your hasbara is going the way of Auschwitz inmates.
Do you feel it?


"DEIR EL-BALAH, Gaza Strip – Mohammed al-Telbani lost his life's work when Israeli shells repeatedly slammed into his four-story snack and cookie factory during the Gaza war, finally sparking a fire that engulfed vats of margarine and sacks of cocoa powder.

"As he contemplated starting over, sitting near the smoldering ruins of one of Gaza's largest factories, he looked to Cairo for answers.

"There, negotiators from Israel and Hamas launched another attempt Monday to negotiate an end to the 34-day-old war — and, perhaps even more crucial for Gaza's 1.8 million people, reach a new border deal for the coastal territory."

7-year-old border blockade, imposed to isolate Hamas, has hurt Gaza's 1.8 million people | Fox News





Then he should be claiming from hamas that allowed rocket launchers to be built close to his factory. They have over 50% of the gaza strip they can use for firing their missiles at Israel, so why do they need the civilian areas to do so.
 
Your hasbara is going the way of Auschwitz inmates.
Do you feel it?


"DEIR EL-BALAH, Gaza Strip – Mohammed al-Telbani lost his life's work when Israeli shells repeatedly slammed into his four-story snack and cookie factory during the Gaza war, finally sparking a fire that engulfed vats of margarine and sacks of cocoa powder.

"As he contemplated starting over, sitting near the smoldering ruins of one of Gaza's largest factories, he looked to Cairo for answers.

"There, negotiators from Israel and Hamas launched another attempt Monday to negotiate an end to the 34-day-old war — and, perhaps even more crucial for Gaza's 1.8 million people, reach a new border deal for the coastal territory."

7-year-old border blockade, imposed to isolate Hamas, has hurt Gaza's 1.8 million people | Fox News

As bad as Gaza looks at the moment, we have to remember that there will be tons of money pooring into the area from different nations to rebuild. Can Gaza George tell us who will be sending all the money to Iraq and Syria to help them rebuild? Meanwhile, I wonder if Gaza George can tell us of any other people who have had their own relief agency looking out for their needs for years and years on end when there have been so many other areas in the world who have needed help desperately. I don't think we have seen any Gazans looking like skin and bones the way we have seen other groups look.
Greedy Jews destroyed Gaza, so let them pay to rebuild it.




Wrong again georgie as it was greedy hamas that destroyed gaza with it terrorism and charter that they invoked in June of this year
 
So what's their new charter?
They won't do anything until the occupation ends, then they'll codify a new one recognizing Israel.




How about a LINK that shows this to be true, or is it another of your LIES.

You do realise that hamas invoked their charter starting in June of this year and are still spouting parts of it now.
Until they get a quorum of 75% OF THE HAMAS LEADERSHIP to meet in one particular place and vote on the alterations to the existing charter it stays in effect. This was done deliberately so that it can never be rescinded or altered
 
How about a LINK that shows this to be true, or is it another of your LIES.

You do realise that hamas invoked their charter starting in June of this year and are still spouting parts of it now.
Until they get a quorum of 75% OF THE HAMAS LEADERSHIP to meet in one particular place and vote on the alterations to the existing charter it stays in effect. This was done deliberately so that it can never be rescinded or altered
So what you're saying is...

...Hamas is waiting to vote on alterations, so the charter can never be altered?

Hmmm...........somewhere in the land of Ezra, a village is missing its idiot.
 
The 'occupation' is not going to end until the Palestinians surrender...
You got your sense of morality and justice ass backwards.

The occupation is the cause of all the violence.

So the occupation must end, to end the violence.



Then how do you explain the violence before the occupation, the many terrorist attacks on Israeli children and civilians. Here are just some of the attacks that show the violence was there before the occupation

Apr 16, 1957 - Militants infiltrated from Jordan, and killed two guards at Kibbutz Mesilot.
May 20, 1957 - A gunman opened fire on a truck in the Arava region, killing a worker.
May 29, 1957 - A tractor driver was killed and two others wounded, when the vehicle struck a landmine, next to kibbutz Kissufim.
June 23, 1957 - Israelis were wounded by landmines, close to the Gaza Strip.
Aug 23, 1957 - Two guards of the Israeli Mekorot water company were killed near Kibbutz Beit Govrin.
Dec 21, 1957 - A member of kibbutz Gadot was killed in the Kibbutz fields.
Feb 11, 1958 - Militants killed a resident of moshav Yanov who was on his way to Kfar Yona, in the Sharon area.
Apr 5, 1958 - Militants lying in an ambush shot and killed two people near Tel Lakhish.
Apr 22, 1958 - Jordanian soldiers shot and killed two fishermen near Aqaba.
May 26, 1958 - Four Israeli police officers were killed in a Jordanian attack on Mount Scopus, in Jerusalem. At 1654 Local time Lieutenant-Colonel Flint of the Mixed Armistice Commission was killed apparently by a single sniper round while trying to evacuate the dead and wounded Israelis from an Israeli police patrol. The Israeli police patrol was on a disputed route past the al-Issawiya village in the Jordanian controlled area of Mount Scopus.[9]
Nov 17, 1958 - Syrian Militants killed the wife of the British air attaché in Israel, who was staying at the guesthouse of the Italian Convent on the Mt. of the Beatitudes.
Dec 3, 1958- A shepherd was killed at Kibbutz Gonen. In the artillery attack that followed, 31 civilians were wounded.
Jan 23, 1959 - A shepherd from Kibbutz Lehavot HaBashan was killed.
Feb 1, 1959 - Three civilians were killed by a landmine near Moshav Zavdiel.
Apr 15, 1959 - A guard was killed at kibbutz Ramat Rachel.
Apr 27, 1959 - Two hikers were shot at close range and killed near Massada.
Oct 3, 1959 - A shepherd from kibbutz Heftziba was killed near kibbutz Yad Hana.
Apr 26, 1960 - Militants killed a resident of Ashkelon south of the city.
Apr 12, 1962 - Militants fired on an Egged bus on the way to Eilat; one passenger was wounded.
Sept 30, 1962 - Two Militants attacked an Egged bus on the way to Eilat. No one was wounded.
May 31, 1965 - Jordanian Legionnaires fired on the neighborhood of Musrara in Jerusalem, killing two civilians and wounding four.
June 1, 1965 - Militants attack a house in Kibbutz Yiftah.
Sept 29, 1965 - A Militant was killed as he attempted to attack Moshav Amatzia.
Nov 7, 1965 - A Fatah cell that infiltrated from Jordan blew up a house in Moshav Givat Yeshayahu, south of Beit Shemesh. The house was destroyed, but the inhabitants were unhurt.
Apr 25, 1966 - Explosions placed by Militants wounded two civilians and damaged three houses in moshav Beit Yosef, in the Beit She'an Valley.
May 16, 1966 - Two Israelis were killed when their jeep hit a terrorist landmine, north of the Sea of Galilee and south of Almagor. Tracks led into Syria.
July 14, 1966 - Militants attacked a house in Kfar Yuval, in the North.
July 19, 1966 - Militants infiltrated into Moshav Margaliot on the northern border and planted nine explosive charges.
Oct 27, 1966 - A civilian was wounded by an explosive charge on the railroad tracks to Jerusalem.

List of attacks against Israeli civilians before 1967 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many more such attacks that show you are talking bullshit and proves that you do not want the Jews to exist.
 
How about a LINK that shows this to be true, or is it another of your LIES.

You do realise that hamas invoked their charter starting in June of this year and are still spouting parts of it now.
Until they get a quorum of 75% OF THE HAMAS LEADERSHIP to meet in one particular place and vote on the alterations to the existing charter it stays in effect. This was done deliberately so that it can never be rescinded or altered
So what you're saying is...

...Hamas is waiting to vote on alterations, so the charter can never be altered?

Hmmm...........somewhere in the land of Ezra, a village is missing its idiot.



No dildo I am telling it as it is, that hamas has made it impossible for their charter to be repealed or altered. This is something they learnt from the PLO who have the same rules in place to stop their charter from being repealed or altered.

Now about this LINK I asked for that shows your claims to be correct. Or is your immature personal attack because you cant find one and want a way out.
 
Then how do you explain the violence before the occupation, the many terrorist attacks on Israeli children and civilians. Here are just some of the attacks that show the violence was there before the occupation

Apr 16, 1957 - Militants infiltrated from Jordan, and killed two guards at Kibbutz Mesilot.
May 20, 1957 - A gunman opened fire on a truck in the Arava region, killing a worker.
May 29, 1957 - A tractor driver was killed and two others wounded, when the vehicle struck a landmine, next to kibbutz Kissufim.
June 23, 1957 - Israelis were wounded by landmines, close to the Gaza Strip.
Aug 23, 1957 - Two guards of the Israeli Mekorot water company were killed near Kibbutz Beit Govrin.
Dec 21, 1957 - A member of kibbutz Gadot was killed in the Kibbutz fields.
Feb 11, 1958 - Militants killed a resident of moshav Yanov who was on his way to Kfar Yona, in the Sharon area.
Apr 5, 1958 - Militants lying in an ambush shot and killed two people near Tel Lakhish.
Apr 22, 1958 - Jordanian soldiers shot and killed two fishermen near Aqaba.
May 26, 1958 - Four Israeli police officers were killed in a Jordanian attack on Mount Scopus, in Jerusalem. At 1654 Local time Lieutenant-Colonel Flint of the Mixed Armistice Commission was killed apparently by a single sniper round while trying to evacuate the dead and wounded Israelis from an Israeli police patrol. The Israeli police patrol was on a disputed route past the al-Issawiya village in the Jordanian controlled area of Mount Scopus.[9]
Nov 17, 1958 - Syrian Militants killed the wife of the British air attaché in Israel, who was staying at the guesthouse of the Italian Convent on the Mt. of the Beatitudes.
Dec 3, 1958- A shepherd was killed at Kibbutz Gonen. In the artillery attack that followed, 31 civilians were wounded.
Jan 23, 1959 - A shepherd from Kibbutz Lehavot HaBashan was killed.
Feb 1, 1959 - Three civilians were killed by a landmine near Moshav Zavdiel.
Apr 15, 1959 - A guard was killed at kibbutz Ramat Rachel.
Apr 27, 1959 - Two hikers were shot at close range and killed near Massada.
Oct 3, 1959 - A shepherd from kibbutz Heftziba was killed near kibbutz Yad Hana.
Apr 26, 1960 - Militants killed a resident of Ashkelon south of the city.
Apr 12, 1962 - Militants fired on an Egged bus on the way to Eilat; one passenger was wounded.
Sept 30, 1962 - Two Militants attacked an Egged bus on the way to Eilat. No one was wounded.
May 31, 1965 - Jordanian Legionnaires fired on the neighborhood of Musrara in Jerusalem, killing two civilians and wounding four.
June 1, 1965 - Militants attack a house in Kibbutz Yiftah.
Sept 29, 1965 - A Militant was killed as he attempted to attack Moshav Amatzia.
Nov 7, 1965 - A Fatah cell that infiltrated from Jordan blew up a house in Moshav Givat Yeshayahu, south of Beit Shemesh. The house was destroyed, but the inhabitants were unhurt.
Apr 25, 1966 - Explosions placed by Militants wounded two civilians and damaged three houses in moshav Beit Yosef, in the Beit She'an Valley.
May 16, 1966 - Two Israelis were killed when their jeep hit a terrorist landmine, north of the Sea of Galilee and south of Almagor. Tracks led into Syria.
July 14, 1966 - Militants attacked a house in Kfar Yuval, in the North.
July 19, 1966 - Militants infiltrated into Moshav Margaliot on the northern border and planted nine explosive charges.
Oct 27, 1966 - A civilian was wounded by an explosive charge on the railroad tracks to Jerusalem.

List of attacks against Israeli civilians before 1967 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many more such attacks that show you are talking bullshit and proves that you do not want the Jews to exist.
What prompted Arab attacks in 1957?

Probably Israeli attacks in 1956?

Operation Kadesh: The Israeli operation in the Sinai Peninsula

The conflict began on 29 October 1956. At about 3:00 pm, Israeli Air Force Mustangs launched a series of attacks on Egyptian positions all over the Sinai. Because Israeli intelligence expected Jordan to enter the war on Egypt's side, Israeli soldiers were stationed along the Israeli-Jordanian frontier. The Israel Border Police militarized the Israel-Jordan border, including the Green Line with the West Bank, during the first few hours of the war. Israeli-Arab villages along the Jordanian border were placed under curfew, and orders were given to shoot curfew violators. This resulted in the killings of 48 civilians in the Arab village of Kafr Qasim in an event known as the Kafr Qasim massacre. The border policemen involved in the killings were later tried and imprisoned, with an Israeli court finding that the order to shoot civilians was "blatantly illegal". This event had major effects on Israeli law relating to the ethics in war and more subtle effects on the legal status of Arab citizens of Israel, who at the time were regarded as a fifth column.
BTW, why wouldn't I want Jews to exist?
 
And you can of course produce the evidence to support this claim, as didn't hamas use their charter as justification to attack Israel in July ?
Already did and no they didn't.

Back to you.



Not that I have seen, all I can see is immature name calling and personal attacks, so were is the link that shows hamas has scrapped its charter ?

Here is the evidence that hamas invokes it's charter to justify the attacks on Israel

The Latest Hamas-Israel Confrontation -- Some Pertinent Legal Points

No. 602 July-August 2014
The ideological foundation of Hamas as set out in its national charter, and its actions of indiscriminate terror directed against Israeli towns, villages and citizens, clearly define its character as a terrorist entity. This is reflected in the fact that Hamas has been formally outlawed in several major states.
The terrorist actions by Hamas, including the indiscriminate targeting of Israel’s civilian population centers and the deliberate and cynical exposure and use of its own civilians, mosques, hospitals and schools as human shields, are violations of international humanitarian law. for which Hamas’ leaders and commanders are accountable and prosecutable.
International law recognizes Israel’s right to defend itself, whether by the conventional international right of self-defense as set out in the UN Charter or by the international customary right to self-defense.
Accusations that Israel is collectively punishing the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip have no basis. Israel’s military actions are solely directed to one strategic and tactical purpose, not to punish the population, but to halt the indiscriminate rocket fire and terror infiltration into Israel’s sovereign territory.
The allegation leveled against Israel that it uses disproportionate force, is a misreading of the international rules of proportionality in armed conflict which are intended to regulate the extent of force needed in relation to the military challenge anticipated.


The Inherent Character of Hamas as a Terrorist Entity

Its declared modus operandi advocates and espouses terror against Israel as the means to achieve its ends. It views every Israeli man, woman and child as a legitimate military target thereby justifying its terrorist attacks by missiles, suicide bombings, murder and abductions. It openly admits its strategy of terrorizing Israel’s civilian population through the use of rockets and missiles indiscriminately aimed at Israel’s towns and villages. Its leaders and spokesmen are on public record admitting their responsibility for such acts of terror. Thus the indiscriminate rocket fire is consistent with its ideology, which sees Israeli civilian casualties as strategic and tactical military successes


International Crimes and Criminal Responsibility by Hamas The terrorist actions practiced by Hamas – both indiscriminate targeting of Israeli towns, villages and civilians, as well as the exposure of its own residents as human shields — are violations of international law and internationally accepted humanitarian norms, specifically, the violation of the rule of distinction, which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets. As such these constitute both crimes against humanity and war crimes, prosecutable before the International Criminal Court (ICC), as well as before municipal courts and tribunals that are guided by universal criminal jurisdiction. Advocating a religious holy war aimed at creating a regional Islamic entity encompassing the whole of the territory of Israel, and the call to “liberate Palestine” and to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” appear to contravene the provisions of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention of Genocide.
 
And you can of course produce the evidence to support this claim, as didn't hamas use their charter as justification to attack Israel in July ?
Already did and no they didn't.

Back to you.



Not that I have seen, all I can see is immature name calling and personal attacks, so were is the link that shows hamas has scrapped its charter ?

Here is the evidence that hamas invokes it's charter to justify the attacks on Israel

The Latest Hamas-Israel Confrontation -- Some Pertinent Legal Points

No. 602 July-August 2014
The ideological foundation of Hamas as set out in its national charter, and its actions of indiscriminate terror directed against Israeli towns, villages and citizens, clearly define its character as a terrorist entity. This is reflected in the fact that Hamas has been formally outlawed in several major states.
The terrorist actions by Hamas, including the indiscriminate targeting of Israel’s civilian population centers and the deliberate and cynical exposure and use of its own civilians, mosques, hospitals and schools as human shields, are violations of international humanitarian law. for which Hamas’ leaders and commanders are accountable and prosecutable.
International law recognizes Israel’s right to defend itself, whether by the conventional international right of self-defense as set out in the UN Charter or by the international customary right to self-defense.
Accusations that Israel is collectively punishing the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip have no basis. Israel’s military actions are solely directed to one strategic and tactical purpose, not to punish the population, but to halt the indiscriminate rocket fire and terror infiltration into Israel’s sovereign territory.
The allegation leveled against Israel that it uses disproportionate force, is a misreading of the international rules of proportionality in armed conflict which are intended to regulate the extent of force needed in relation to the military challenge anticipated.


The Inherent Character of Hamas as a Terrorist Entity

Its declared modus operandi advocates and espouses terror against Israel as the means to achieve its ends. It views every Israeli man, woman and child as a legitimate military target thereby justifying its terrorist attacks by missiles, suicide bombings, murder and abductions. It openly admits its strategy of terrorizing Israel’s civilian population through the use of rockets and missiles indiscriminately aimed at Israel’s towns and villages. Its leaders and spokesmen are on public record admitting their responsibility for such acts of terror. Thus the indiscriminate rocket fire is consistent with its ideology, which sees Israeli civilian casualties as strategic and tactical military successes


International Crimes and Criminal Responsibility by Hamas The terrorist actions practiced by Hamas – both indiscriminate targeting of Israeli towns, villages and civilians, as well as the exposure of its own residents as human shields — are violations of international law and internationally accepted humanitarian norms, specifically, the violation of the rule of distinction, which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets. As such these constitute both crimes against humanity and war crimes, prosecutable before the International Criminal Court (ICC), as well as before municipal courts and tribunals that are guided by universal criminal jurisdiction. Advocating a religious holy war aimed at creating a regional Islamic entity encompassing the whole of the territory of Israel, and the call to “liberate Palestine” and to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” appear to contravene the provisions of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention of Genocide.

That website is totally bias and so what you posted means nothing.
 
Already did and no they didn't.

Back to you.



Not that I have seen, all I can see is immature name calling and personal attacks, so were is the link that shows hamas has scrapped its charter ?

Here is the evidence that hamas invokes it's charter to justify the attacks on Israel

The Latest Hamas-Israel Confrontation -- Some Pertinent Legal Points

No. 602 July-August 2014
The ideological foundation of Hamas as set out in its national charter, and its actions of indiscriminate terror directed against Israeli towns, villages and citizens, clearly define its character as a terrorist entity. This is reflected in the fact that Hamas has been formally outlawed in several major states.
The terrorist actions by Hamas, including the indiscriminate targeting of Israel’s civilian population centers and the deliberate and cynical exposure and use of its own civilians, mosques, hospitals and schools as human shields, are violations of international humanitarian law. for which Hamas’ leaders and commanders are accountable and prosecutable.
International law recognizes Israel’s right to defend itself, whether by the conventional international right of self-defense as set out in the UN Charter or by the international customary right to self-defense.
Accusations that Israel is collectively punishing the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip have no basis. Israel’s military actions are solely directed to one strategic and tactical purpose, not to punish the population, but to halt the indiscriminate rocket fire and terror infiltration into Israel’s sovereign territory.
The allegation leveled against Israel that it uses disproportionate force, is a misreading of the international rules of proportionality in armed conflict which are intended to regulate the extent of force needed in relation to the military challenge anticipated.


The Inherent Character of Hamas as a Terrorist Entity

Its declared modus operandi advocates and espouses terror against Israel as the means to achieve its ends. It views every Israeli man, woman and child as a legitimate military target thereby justifying its terrorist attacks by missiles, suicide bombings, murder and abductions. It openly admits its strategy of terrorizing Israel’s civilian population through the use of rockets and missiles indiscriminately aimed at Israel’s towns and villages. Its leaders and spokesmen are on public record admitting their responsibility for such acts of terror. Thus the indiscriminate rocket fire is consistent with its ideology, which sees Israeli civilian casualties as strategic and tactical military successes


International Crimes and Criminal Responsibility by Hamas The terrorist actions practiced by Hamas – both indiscriminate targeting of Israeli towns, villages and civilians, as well as the exposure of its own residents as human shields — are violations of international law and internationally accepted humanitarian norms, specifically, the violation of the rule of distinction, which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets. As such these constitute both crimes against humanity and war crimes, prosecutable before the International Criminal Court (ICC), as well as before municipal courts and tribunals that are guided by universal criminal jurisdiction. Advocating a religious holy war aimed at creating a regional Islamic entity encompassing the whole of the territory of Israel, and the call to “liberate Palestine” and to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” appear to contravene the provisions of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention of Genocide.

That website is totally bias and so what you posted means nothing.
^^^^^^ :lol:

You lose. :D
 
Not that I have seen, all I can see is immature name calling and personal attacks, so were is the link that shows hamas has scrapped its charter ?

Here is the evidence that hamas invokes it's charter to justify the attacks on Israel

The Latest Hamas-Israel Confrontation -- Some Pertinent Legal Points

No. 602 July-August 2014
The ideological foundation of Hamas as set out in its national charter, and its actions of indiscriminate terror directed against Israeli towns, villages and citizens, clearly define its character as a terrorist entity. This is reflected in the fact that Hamas has been formally outlawed in several major states.
The terrorist actions by Hamas, including the indiscriminate targeting of Israel’s civilian population centers and the deliberate and cynical exposure and use of its own civilians, mosques, hospitals and schools as human shields, are violations of international humanitarian law. for which Hamas’ leaders and commanders are accountable and prosecutable.
International law recognizes Israel’s right to defend itself, whether by the conventional international right of self-defense as set out in the UN Charter or by the international customary right to self-defense.
Accusations that Israel is collectively punishing the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip have no basis. Israel’s military actions are solely directed to one strategic and tactical purpose, not to punish the population, but to halt the indiscriminate rocket fire and terror infiltration into Israel’s sovereign territory.
The allegation leveled against Israel that it uses disproportionate force, is a misreading of the international rules of proportionality in armed conflict which are intended to regulate the extent of force needed in relation to the military challenge anticipated.


The Inherent Character of Hamas as a Terrorist Entity

Its declared modus operandi advocates and espouses terror against Israel as the means to achieve its ends. It views every Israeli man, woman and child as a legitimate military target thereby justifying its terrorist attacks by missiles, suicide bombings, murder and abductions. It openly admits its strategy of terrorizing Israel’s civilian population through the use of rockets and missiles indiscriminately aimed at Israel’s towns and villages. Its leaders and spokesmen are on public record admitting their responsibility for such acts of terror. Thus the indiscriminate rocket fire is consistent with its ideology, which sees Israeli civilian casualties as strategic and tactical military successes


International Crimes and Criminal Responsibility by Hamas The terrorist actions practiced by Hamas – both indiscriminate targeting of Israeli towns, villages and civilians, as well as the exposure of its own residents as human shields — are violations of international law and internationally accepted humanitarian norms, specifically, the violation of the rule of distinction, which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets. As such these constitute both crimes against humanity and war crimes, prosecutable before the International Criminal Court (ICC), as well as before municipal courts and tribunals that are guided by universal criminal jurisdiction. Advocating a religious holy war aimed at creating a regional Islamic entity encompassing the whole of the territory of Israel, and the call to “liberate Palestine” and to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” appear to contravene the provisions of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention of Genocide.

That website is totally bias and so what you posted means nothing.
^^^^^^ :lol:

You lose. :D




Nope I win by default
 
Already did and no they didn't.

Back to you.



Not that I have seen, all I can see is immature name calling and personal attacks, so were is the link that shows hamas has scrapped its charter ?

Here is the evidence that hamas invokes it's charter to justify the attacks on Israel

The Latest Hamas-Israel Confrontation -- Some Pertinent Legal Points

No. 602 July-August 2014
The ideological foundation of Hamas as set out in its national charter, and its actions of indiscriminate terror directed against Israeli towns, villages and citizens, clearly define its character as a terrorist entity. This is reflected in the fact that Hamas has been formally outlawed in several major states.
The terrorist actions by Hamas, including the indiscriminate targeting of Israel’s civilian population centers and the deliberate and cynical exposure and use of its own civilians, mosques, hospitals and schools as human shields, are violations of international humanitarian law. for which Hamas’ leaders and commanders are accountable and prosecutable.
International law recognizes Israel’s right to defend itself, whether by the conventional international right of self-defense as set out in the UN Charter or by the international customary right to self-defense.
Accusations that Israel is collectively punishing the Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip have no basis. Israel’s military actions are solely directed to one strategic and tactical purpose, not to punish the population, but to halt the indiscriminate rocket fire and terror infiltration into Israel’s sovereign territory.
The allegation leveled against Israel that it uses disproportionate force, is a misreading of the international rules of proportionality in armed conflict which are intended to regulate the extent of force needed in relation to the military challenge anticipated.


The Inherent Character of Hamas as a Terrorist Entity

Its declared modus operandi advocates and espouses terror against Israel as the means to achieve its ends. It views every Israeli man, woman and child as a legitimate military target thereby justifying its terrorist attacks by missiles, suicide bombings, murder and abductions. It openly admits its strategy of terrorizing Israel’s civilian population through the use of rockets and missiles indiscriminately aimed at Israel’s towns and villages. Its leaders and spokesmen are on public record admitting their responsibility for such acts of terror. Thus the indiscriminate rocket fire is consistent with its ideology, which sees Israeli civilian casualties as strategic and tactical military successes


International Crimes and Criminal Responsibility by Hamas The terrorist actions practiced by Hamas – both indiscriminate targeting of Israeli towns, villages and civilians, as well as the exposure of its own residents as human shields — are violations of international law and internationally accepted humanitarian norms, specifically, the violation of the rule of distinction, which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets. As such these constitute both crimes against humanity and war crimes, prosecutable before the International Criminal Court (ICC), as well as before municipal courts and tribunals that are guided by universal criminal jurisdiction. Advocating a religious holy war aimed at creating a regional Islamic entity encompassing the whole of the territory of Israel, and the call to “liberate Palestine” and to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine” appear to contravene the provisions of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention of Genocide.

That website is totally bias and so what you posted means nothing.

don't like the answer, reject the source.
there are some sites that tell nothing but lies, they are well know to most posters.
jcpa has an impressive list of experts, many do commentary on major news TV.
 
There is no occupation. Israelis left Gaza in 2005. There isn't an Israeli soldier, or settler, or Jew in Gaza, that wasn't caused to be there by Hamas 'rocketing. And the blockade was imposed by Hamas, just like all the other trouble. Eliminate the Koran, eliminate Hamas, and this all goes away.
The only was this all goes away is if 80% of Gazans agree to leave their homes, businesses and farms and move to unknown parts of the world while a roughly equal number of Jew squatters flood into Gaza and solve the housing crisis in Israel.




What housing crisis in Israel, there are plenty of areas the muslim immigrants can go to if they wanted. There is the arteas around the gaza border, or the area around the Syrian border.
It is the arab muslims that are overcrowded and want to force the Jews to move away so they can infest the land of Israel like the vermin they are
"Tackling the housing shortage
Dissolving the Israel Land Administration's monopoly on land could drive down home prices.
Haaretz Editorial | Jun. 16, 2014 | 7:56 AM"

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.599011
 
try again------the LIKUD statement does not exclude a state for the people who call themselves
"palesstinians" in the LEVANT ---(keeping in mind that just about the entire LEVANT is
the historic "Palestina" ad described by Herodotus----an idea that makes sense even today both
culturally and linquistically) HOWEVER the hamas charter and the filth of shariah in general
excludes a jewish homeland ANYWHERE in the LEVANT which shariah enthusiasts actually do consider
all "MUSLIM LAND" The Jordan river does seem to be a natural border -------
natural borders make good borders --------no border works for a CALIPHATE MAN-----you
got some UMMAHNIKS ready to give up THE CALIPHATE aka DAR AL ISLAM?
The Hamas Charter ceased to be operational with the forming of the latest unity government in Palestine. The Likud Charter on the other hand makes no mention of the Levant, Herodotus, or sharia in general, it clearly states there will be no Arab state west of the Jordan river, which would seem to include Gaza and the West Bank. Why do you try to lie about the Zionist goal of controlling all of Palestine by Jews?





How about a link then georgie boy that shows the hamas charter is no longer operational. The way it was set up makes it impossible to alter or rescind without a quorum of at least 75% OF THE HAMAS LEADERSHIP
The likud charter is not binding and was rescinded when it was seen to cause problems for the party. Clutching at straws again georgie and running it into the ground.
You first, Hasbara.
Start with your imaginary Hamas quorum.
Then tell us when Likud repealed its racist charter.
 
Then how do you explain the violence before the occupation, the many terrorist attacks on Israeli children and civilians. Here are just some of the attacks that show the violence was there before the occupation

Apr 16, 1957 - Militants infiltrated from Jordan, and killed two guards at Kibbutz Mesilot.
May 20, 1957 - A gunman opened fire on a truck in the Arava region, killing a worker.
May 29, 1957 - A tractor driver was killed and two others wounded, when the vehicle struck a landmine, next to kibbutz Kissufim.
June 23, 1957 - Israelis were wounded by landmines, close to the Gaza Strip.
Aug 23, 1957 - Two guards of the Israeli Mekorot water company were killed near Kibbutz Beit Govrin.
Dec 21, 1957 - A member of kibbutz Gadot was killed in the Kibbutz fields.
Feb 11, 1958 - Militants killed a resident of moshav Yanov who was on his way to Kfar Yona, in the Sharon area.
Apr 5, 1958 - Militants lying in an ambush shot and killed two people near Tel Lakhish.
Apr 22, 1958 - Jordanian soldiers shot and killed two fishermen near Aqaba.
May 26, 1958 - Four Israeli police officers were killed in a Jordanian attack on Mount Scopus, in Jerusalem. At 1654 Local time Lieutenant-Colonel Flint of the Mixed Armistice Commission was killed apparently by a single sniper round while trying to evacuate the dead and wounded Israelis from an Israeli police patrol. The Israeli police patrol was on a disputed route past the al-Issawiya village in the Jordanian controlled area of Mount Scopus.[9]
Nov 17, 1958 - Syrian Militants killed the wife of the British air attaché in Israel, who was staying at the guesthouse of the Italian Convent on the Mt. of the Beatitudes.
Dec 3, 1958- A shepherd was killed at Kibbutz Gonen. In the artillery attack that followed, 31 civilians were wounded.
Jan 23, 1959 - A shepherd from Kibbutz Lehavot HaBashan was killed.
Feb 1, 1959 - Three civilians were killed by a landmine near Moshav Zavdiel.
Apr 15, 1959 - A guard was killed at kibbutz Ramat Rachel.
Apr 27, 1959 - Two hikers were shot at close range and killed near Massada.
Oct 3, 1959 - A shepherd from kibbutz Heftziba was killed near kibbutz Yad Hana.
Apr 26, 1960 - Militants killed a resident of Ashkelon south of the city.
Apr 12, 1962 - Militants fired on an Egged bus on the way to Eilat; one passenger was wounded.
Sept 30, 1962 - Two Militants attacked an Egged bus on the way to Eilat. No one was wounded.
May 31, 1965 - Jordanian Legionnaires fired on the neighborhood of Musrara in Jerusalem, killing two civilians and wounding four.
June 1, 1965 - Militants attack a house in Kibbutz Yiftah.
Sept 29, 1965 - A Militant was killed as he attempted to attack Moshav Amatzia.
Nov 7, 1965 - A Fatah cell that infiltrated from Jordan blew up a house in Moshav Givat Yeshayahu, south of Beit Shemesh. The house was destroyed, but the inhabitants were unhurt.
Apr 25, 1966 - Explosions placed by Militants wounded two civilians and damaged three houses in moshav Beit Yosef, in the Beit She'an Valley.
May 16, 1966 - Two Israelis were killed when their jeep hit a terrorist landmine, north of the Sea of Galilee and south of Almagor. Tracks led into Syria.
July 14, 1966 - Militants attacked a house in Kfar Yuval, in the North.
July 19, 1966 - Militants infiltrated into Moshav Margaliot on the northern border and planted nine explosive charges.
Oct 27, 1966 - A civilian was wounded by an explosive charge on the railroad tracks to Jerusalem.

List of attacks against Israeli civilians before 1967 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many more such attacks that show you are talking bullshit and proves that you do not want the Jews to exist.
What prompted Arab attacks in 1957?

Islamist ideology.
 
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