Stop Calling Leftists ‘Liberals’

Indeed. I am liberal in the classical definition, but to say so thoroughly confuses the uninformed.
Classical? Like my hair was once blonde but now it's grey? Can I claim my hair color is classical blonde?

What?
Are you one of the "confused uninformed"?

My analogy was fairly simple to follow.

Classical Liberalism no longer exists

Oh.

Is this because YOU say so? Or is there another "learned authority" about? :laugh:

Too funny.
Quite clearly it is evidenced buy our current political climate.
Do try to keep up will you

How silly. I never allow political climate to interfere with my appreciation of art.
 
So you want us to call you a liberal? Rand Paul is a liberal? Donald Trump is a liberal? Most Republicans are liberals?

lol, won't that get a bit confusing? Take a smart pill and think these things through before you post them from now on.

How about acknowledging what you are, which is leftists?

You have NOTHING in common with Mason, Jefferson, Paine, et al. BUT you have everything in common with Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, and Chavez.

Liberals promote the ideals of Kant, leftists the ideal of Marx. Liberals see the wisdom of Locke, leftists embrace the words of Mao. Liberals view humanity as Hobbes did, leftists view humanity as Pol Pot did.

You are the Khmer Rouge democrats, there is nothing liberal about you.
 
Conservatives fear change and diversity.

And our current "liberals" are Sooooo understanding of ideas other than their own. Their idea of "diversity" ends at diversity of thought.
It has more to do with the person, than a political ideology...

The person and the ideology cannot be separated, and our current crop of lefties are not liberal in the classical sense anymore, as they can't stand the concept of two sides to a political debate.
 
Conservatives fear change and diversity.

And our current "liberals" are Sooooo understanding of ideas other than their own. Their idea of "diversity" ends at diversity of thought.
It has more to do with the person, than a political ideology...

The person and the ideology cannot be separated, and our current crop of lefties are not liberal in the classical sense anymore, as they can't stand the concept of two sides to a political debate.
Oh yes it can, even Stalin slid away from Marxist-Leninism, because he did it that whey....
 
It starts talking about a Bill O'Reilly of FoxNews comment and, in effect, puts the record straight. Here's an excerpt:


Classically, liberalism stands for economic freedom, freedom of expression, civil rights of individuals, and limited government under the rule of law. In fact, in much of the world outside of the U.S., in Europe and Australia and even Canada, it still means that, and is considered “right wing.” But there is nothing “liberal” about the modern American left, or the Democrats’ leadership or base, and there hasn’t been for decades.


I am definitely going to change my definition of liberalism and make darned sure I don't get it mixed up with the Left's socialism and “progressive” outlook.


Read the story @ The left hijacks the word liberal to serve their agenda PJ Media

What we call "liberals" are progressive statists, nothing more or less.
Well now, aren't you the narrow minded juan...

How so? I'm calling what I see, not making a judgement call on it.
 
So you want us to call you a liberal? Rand Paul is a liberal? Donald Trump is a liberal? Most Republicans are liberals?

lol, won't that get a bit confusing? Take a smart pill and think these things through before you post them from now on.

How about acknowledging what you are, which is leftists?

You have NOTHING in common with Mason, Jefferson, Paine, et al. BUT you have everything in common with Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, and Chavez.

Liberals promote the ideals of Kant, leftists the ideal of Marx. Liberals see the wisdom of Locke, leftists embrace the words of Mao. Liberals view humanity as Hobbes did, leftists view humanity as Pol Pot did.

You are the Khmer Rouge democrats, there is nothing liberal about you.
Wow! Did you come up with that line of propaganda all by yourself?
 
It starts talking about a Bill O'Reilly of FoxNews comment and, in effect, puts the record straight. Here's an excerpt:


Classically, liberalism stands for economic freedom, freedom of expression, civil rights of individuals, and limited government under the rule of law. In fact, in much of the world outside of the U.S., in Europe and Australia and even Canada, it still means that, and is considered “right wing.” But there is nothing “liberal” about the modern American left, or the Democrats’ leadership or base, and there hasn’t been for decades.


I am definitely going to change my definition of liberalism and make darned sure I don't get it mixed up with the Left's socialism and “progressive” outlook.


Read the story @ The left hijacks the word liberal to serve their agenda PJ Media

What we call "liberals" are progressive statists, nothing more or less.
Well now, aren't you the narrow minded juan...

How so? I'm calling what I see, not making a judgement call on it.
I am a liberal, yet do not like progressive ideas....One reason I can't stand Hillary...
 
Oh yes it can, even Stalin slid away from Marxist-Leninism, because he did it that whey....

I see you are completely ignorant of history.

Lenin instituted the NEP, with Stalin promoting collectivism both prior to and after the war.
Sorry but you are ignorant of the whey Stalin paid people and allowed the church to exist and even used it to his advantage...
 
Sorry but you are ignorant of the whey Stalin paid people and allowed the church to exist and even used it to his advantage...

I'm not sure of what cottage cheese has to do with anything, but the introduction of limited markets was started by Lenin.

Stalin approached collectivism in a more pragmatic way than the initial disaster under Lenin, yet for his pragmatism, it was Stalin who imposed collective agriculture on the Kulaks, slaughtering 3 million who refused to comply. It was Stalin who outlawed labor unions and collectivized machine tool operations - resulting in the USA having to supply all of the machines to the USSR during WWII. It was Stalin who created Naukograd to collectivize all research and technological development.

You simply have no idea what you are talking about, and are attempting to fabricate history to promote your political objectives.
 
Conservatives fear change and diversity.


left-wingers make idiotic charges they cant back up
But when we talk about conservatives, "let him die", "feed the poor and they will breed", "anti gay", "anti science", "anti women's rights", "anti education" and so on, we can back it up. The reason we can back it us is video and audio. See how that works? We don't need to make it up, only report it. Two thirds of what the GOP says I couldn't invent. Those thoughts don't occur to me.
 
Why? You enjoy the puddle of shit you speak from...

Ignorance is the foundation of the left, the resultant product being demagoguery.

You have no reason, no logic, no insight, and not intellect. Ad hom is your response, as you lack the basis for anything approaching rational discussion.

You are a leftist demagogue - nothing more.
 
But when we talk about conservatives, "let him die", "feed the poor and they will breed", "anti gay", "anti science", "anti women's rights", "anti education" and so on, we can back it up. The reason we can back it us is video and audio. See how that works? We don't need to make it up, only report it. Two thirds of what the GOP says I couldn't invent. Those thoughts don't occur to me.

The problem is, as illustrated above, when you talk about conservatives, virtually nothing you claim is true.

You are just demagogues. Slander and libel are the only thing you have to offer.
 

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