ST's BP Rantings

[Lonestar_logic]

Any of the companies could have a spill.

BP is not only the company that had the oil flood, its the company doing a piss poor job of dealing with the flood.

This was an accident waiting to happen.

The above was an excuse waiting to happen.

Merely shopping at a different gas station is a feel good, do nothing course of action.

Shopping at a BP or BP brand station would make me puke. Sorry, I don't wanna puke. Its not really about feeling good, its about avoiding feeling bad.

How about, instead, giving up that weekend excursion and doing something closer to home?

Sorry, I don't see the connection. Is putting fishermen out of business part of the process of refining oil into gasoline?

Using your logic no one should engage in any venture that has the potential for a disasterous accident. So we should shut down all chemical, petroleum and nuclear plants, cease all space exploration operations so on and so forth......

 

[Avatar4321]

Any of the companies could have a spill. This was an accident waiting to happen. The problem lies with our collective insatiable thirst for oil and, lack of comprehensive regulatory oversight and enforcement.

Merely shopping at a different gas station is a feel good, do nothing course of action. How about, instead, giving up that weekend excursion and doing something closer to home?

How about we do as we choose to do and you do as you choose to do?

How is there a lack of comprehensive regulatory oversight? There is plenty of oversight. The government's not enforcing it. What do you want to do, pass more laws that the government won't enforce?

 

[Avatar4321]

They get charged with and convicted. Duh. In this case BP pleaded guilty.

Could you provide a case number where they were charged, convicted and plead guilty?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Using your logic no one should engage in any venture that has the potential for a disasterous accident.

Incorrect Mr Strawman. Using my logic, companies that cause grave damage to our environment and economy should be punished severely by the government, the lawyers, and their customers.

 

[Middleman]

Any of the companies could have a spill.

BP is not only the company that had the oil flood, its the company doing a piss poor job of dealing with the flood.

This was an accident waiting to happen.

The above was an excuse waiting to happen.

Merely shopping at a different gas station is a feel good, do nothing course of action.

Shopping at a BP or BP brand station would make me puke. Sorry, I don't wanna puke. Its not really about feeling good, its about avoiding feeling bad.

How about, instead, giving up that weekend excursion and doing something closer to home?

Sorry, I don't see the connection. Is putting fishermen out of business part of the process of refining oil into gasoline?

So, in other words, you don't feel the need to alter your lifestyle of consumption one iota, you just will shop at a different gas station.

Thanks for clarifying...

 

[SpidermanTuba]

They get charged with and convicted. Duh. In this case BP pleaded guilty.

Could you provide a case number where they were charged, convicted and plead guilty?

No, I can't give you a case number.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Do it right. Don't buy anything with any plastic in it or packaged in plastic, either, Tuba.

Boycotts do work, notwithstanding the opinion of some moron. Of course a boycott of BP and its subsidiaries won't put BP or it's workers out of work. But for those who believe BP is criminally and civilly culpable, any and all efforts to bring those to justice whose greed caused physical damage to the Gulf Coast, it is a moral duty to demand both accountability and punishment and keep up the pressure.
Efforts to blame the Obama Administration is a tactic of the RW Fringe, those who blame everything on Obama, Democrats and liberals and accept no responsibility for their own behavior and advocacy. The hypocrisy of the RW would be laughable but for the fact it works on many intellectually light: "Drill, baby drill" but when shit hits the fan, blame it on others. Hypocrisy, not only a value to RW radicals, a way of life.

 

[saveliberty]

Not going to happen. When BP pays for all the clean up, they get to expense it out for tax purposes. Bottom line WE end up paying for it.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Can you show examples of where regulations prevented much of anything?

You can't seriously be this stupid. Do you not wear a seatbelt when driving a car ? They save lives every day .

Are you suggesting that no one dies in a car accident if they're wearing a seat belt?

 

[manifold]

Can you show examples of where regulations prevented much of anything?

Nice red herring.

If a thing was prevented, that means it never happened. Asking someone to provide examples of things that never happened is a patently disingenuous red herring. Well done!

 

[Si modo]

Not going to happen. When BP pays for all the clean up, they get to expense it out for tax purposes. Bottom line WE end up paying for it.

Yup.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Since plastic is only a tiny fraction of how a barrel gets used, I'm not so worried about it.

But if you can show me that a certain item has plastic made from BP petro in particular, I would be happy to not use it.

A partial list of products made from Petroleum (144 of 6000 items)

One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make things like:

Solvents
Diesel fuel
Motor Oil
Bearing Grease
Ink
Floor Wax
Ballpoint Pens
Football Cleats
Upholstery
Sweaters
Boats
Insecticides
Bicycle Tires
Sports Car Bodies
Nail Polish
Fishing lures
Dresses
Tires
Golf Bags
Perfumes
Cassettes
Dishwasher parts
Tool Boxes
Shoe Polish
Motorcycle Helmet
Caulking
Petroleum Jelly
Transparent Tape
CD Player
Faucet Washers
Antiseptics
Clothesline
Curtains
Food Preservatives
Basketballs
Soap
Vitamin Capsules
Antihistamines
Purses
Shoes
Dashboards
Cortisone
Deodorant
Footballs
Putty
Dyes
Panty Hose
Refrigerant
Percolators
Life Jackets
Rubbing Alcohol
Linings
Skis
TV Cabinets
Shag Rugs
Electrician's Tape
Tool Racks
Car Battery Cases
Epoxy
Paint
Mops
Slacks
Insect Repellent
Oil Filters
Umbrellas
Yarn
Fertilizers
Hair Coloring
Roofing
Toilet Seats
Fishing Rods
Lipstick
Denture Adhesive
Linoleum
Ice Cube Trays
Synthetic Rubber
Speakers
Plastic Wood
Electric Blankets
Glycerin
Tennis Rackets
Rubber Cement
Fishing Boots
Dice
Nylon Rope
Candles
Trash Bags
House Paint
Water Pipes
Hand Lotion
Roller Skates
Surf Boards
Shampoo
Wheels
Paint Rollers
Shower Curtains
Guitar Strings
Luggage
Aspirin
Safety Glasses
Antifreeze
Football Helmets
Awnings
Eyeglasses
Clothes
Toothbrushes
Ice Chests
Footballs
Combs
CD's & DVD's
Paint Brushes
Detergents
Vaporizers
Balloons
Sun Glasses
Tents
Heart Valves
Crayons
Parachutes
Telephones
Enamel
Pillows
Dishes
Cameras
Anesthetics
Artificial Turf
Artificial limbs
Bandages
Dentures
Model Cars
Folding Doors
Hair Curlers
Cold cream
Movie film
Soft Contact lenses
Drinking Cups
Fan Belts
Car Enamel
Shaving Cream
Ammonia
Refrigerators
Golf Balls
Toothpaste
Gasoline

Americans consume petroleum products at a rate of three-and-a-half gallons of oil and more than 250 cubic feet of natural gas per day each! But, as shown here petroleum is not just used for fuel.

Check the highlighted text for better reading comprehension.

You are one stupid fuck if you think BP doesn't sell petroleum to other manufacturers. Do you think Gillette drills for the petroleum it needs for their line of shaving cream?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Using your logic no one should engage in any venture that has the potential for a disasterous accident.

Incorrect Mr Strawman. Using my logic, companies that cause grave damage to our environment and economy should be punished severely by the government, the lawyers, and their customers.

But damn near every industry has the potential for catasphropic envornmental and economical damages and no one has said that BP shouldn't be held accountable. It's not a strawman argument, I was referencing your logic.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

They get charged with and convicted. Duh. In this case BP pleaded guilty.

Could you provide a case number where they were charged, convicted and plead guilty?

No, I can't give you a case number.

hahahahahahah so you admit you made the shit up.

 

[Dr.House]

Why aren't they working on plugging the leak of brain matter coming from the gaping hole in Spidey Tuba's head?

At some point, the man is going to lose motor functions...

Doesn't anyone care???...

 

[CurveLight]

Not going to happen. When BP pays for all the clean up, they get to expense it out for tax purposes. Bottom line WE end up paying for it.

Kind of like when tobacco giants lost the lawsuits they just increased the prices of their products. We paid for it all so all the lawsuits did nothing but put out myths of second hand smoke and make good headlines.

 

[California Girl]

Why aren't they working on plugging the leak of brain matter coming from the gaping hole in Spidey Tuba's head?

At some point, the man is going to lose motor functions...

Doesn't anyone care???...

The 'Just Say No' campaign should have him as an example of how drugs fuck up the brain.

 

[saveliberty]

Weeds in, weeds out.

 

[CurveLight]

Why aren't they working on plugging the leak of brain matter coming from the gaping hole in Spidey Tuba's head?

At some point, the man is going to lose motor functions...

Doesn't anyone care???...

The 'Just Say No' campaign should have him as an example of how drugs fuck up the brain.

You're an example that drugs or not, some are destined to be fucked up. So toke up Soviet Girl! You have nothing at risk.....

 

[SpidermanTuba]

You are one stupid fuck if you think BP doesn't sell petroleum to other manufacturers.

Yeah, I must think that, obviously anyone who asked for a list of particular products that BP oil was in would think that.