Success stories for Obamacare!

[LoneLaugher]

Grab on tight nutters! Don't let go of your hope that people suffer! The ride down is gonna be a wild one.

Or,,,you could change your overall outlook and start rooting for your country to succeed.

I'm rooting for my country to succeed.

Success requires cutting out the cancer.

Luckily this cancer didn't remain hidden as long as it might have. We didn't detect it when we should have, but it might yet be soon enough.

The treatment will be painful though.

Maybe you are, Amelia. Sometimes I get that impression from you.

But, a thread like this.....begun with a success story....then shit on by all of your bedfellows...post after post....is indicative of different motives.

This law.....like Social Security and Medicare before it....will take some time and some adjustments. And who knows.....maybe it will end up being less than what is needed. So, we'll take the necessary steps.

Five years.........five years of this shit. It is unAmerican. Period.

 

[LoneLaugher]

How can you have any success from something that was created on a lie? obama even got lie of the year award about obamacare.

That is the thinking of a simpleton.

 

[Amelia]

Grab on tight nutters! Don't let go of your hope that people suffer! The ride down is gonna be a wild one.

Or,,,you could change your overall outlook and start rooting for your country to succeed.

I'm rooting for my country to succeed.

Success requires cutting out the cancer.

Luckily this cancer didn't remain hidden as long as it might have. We didn't detect it when we should have, but it might yet be soon enough.

The treatment will be painful though.

Maybe you are, Amelia. Sometimes I get that impression from you.

But, a thread like this.....begun with a success story....then shit on by all of your bedfellows...post after post....is indicative of different motives.

This law.....like Social Security and Medicare before it....will take some time and some adjustments. And who knows.....maybe it will end up being less than what is needed. So, we'll take the necessary steps.

Five years.........five years of this shit. It is unAmerican. Period.

The way this law was enacted is the cancer to which I refer. That was a punch in the face for our democratic principles. That needs to be recognized and apologized for and the people need to be awakened to what we're losing if we say the ends justify the means.

But the left will accuse me of wanting America to fail because I care so passionately for the democratic principles they have abandoned.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'm rooting for my country to succeed.

Success requires cutting out the cancer.

Luckily this cancer didn't remain hidden as long as it might have. We didn't detect it when we should have, but it might yet be soon enough.

The treatment will be painful though.

Maybe you are, Amelia. Sometimes I get that impression from you.

But, a thread like this.....begun with a success story....then shit on by all of your bedfellows...post after post....is indicative of different motives.

This law.....like Social Security and Medicare before it....will take some time and some adjustments. And who knows.....maybe it will end up being less than what is needed. So, we'll take the necessary steps.

Five years.........five years of this shit. It is unAmerican. Period.

The way this law was enacted is the cancer to which I refer. That was a punch in the face for our democratic principles. That needs to be recognized and apologized for and the people need to be awakened to what we're losing if we say the ends justify the means.

But the left will accuse me of wanting America to fail because I care so passionately for the democratic principles they have abandoned.

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

 

[norwegen]

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

The law was passed by Democrats. Being enacted in a Democratic manner is the problem.

If it were enacted in a democratic manner, it would still be a problem. Once upon a time, before the United States was a democracy, laws were enacted in a republican manner, which presented few problems or controversies. That is, our republican laws of old were not arbitrary or positive.

Democratic principles should be abandoned. Republican principles should be restored. You see, LoneLaugher, republicanism cannot function when democracy gets in the way.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

The law was passed by Democrats. Being enacted in a Democratic manner is the problem.

If it were enacted in a democratic manner, it would still be a problem. Once upon a time, before the United States was a democracy, laws were enacted in a republican manner, which presented few problems or controversies. That is, our republican laws of old were not arbitrary or positive.

Democratic principles should be abandoned. Republican principles should be restored. You see, LoneLaugher, republicanism cannot function when democracy gets in the way.

Word salad.

 

[Spoonman]

There is plenty of good news:

yea, and 5,000,000 of that are people who had their better, cheaper plans cancelled by obamacare.

How can you say they were "better and cheaper" when they did not even meet the minimum standards of the ACA? All the people that had to move out of substandard plans had the opportunity to enroll in the ACA and get better plans than they had.

you do realize the minimum standards of the aca cover pretty much nothing, have high deductibles and you pay mostly out of pocket. and you do realize that the reason there was such a massive result when the program launched was because 5,000,000 people who were told they could keep their plans received cancellation notices and what they found was less than what they had and cost more. you aren't hearing a whole lot of hey, I lost my plan but no I am doing so much better on obamacare, stories. if people were, you liberal idiots would be posting them all over the internet. but the reality is, more people have been screwed by it the have benefitted form it. ok even the poster girl for obamacare got screwed. I mean seriously. how does the person you select for your campaign as the face of your program, who is supposed to benefit from it end up in an even worse situation because of it. but that typifies the disaster this plan is

 

[LoneLaugher]

yea, and 5,000,000 of that are people who had their better, cheaper plans cancelled by obamacare.

How can you say they were "better and cheaper" when they did not even meet the minimum standards of the ACA? All the people that had to move out of substandard plans had the opportunity to enroll in the ACA and get better plans than they had.

you do realize the minimum standards of the aca cover pretty much nothing, have high deductibles and you pay mostly out of pocket. and you do realize that the reason there was such a massive result when the program launched was because 5,000,000 people who were told they could keep their plans received cancellation notices and what they found was less than what they had and cost more. you aren't hearing a whole lot of hey, I lost my plan but no I am doing so much better on obamacare, stories. if people were, you liberal idiots would be posting them all over the internet. but the reality is, more people have been screwed by it the have benefitted form it. ok even the poster girl for obamacare got screwed. I mean seriously. how does the person you select for your campaign as the face of your program, who is supposed to benefit from it end up in an even worse situation because of it. but that typifies the disaster this plan is

You are not in possession of the facts.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Lets not forget......that the ACA is a total compromise from day one. It was developed with the realization that the real solution......single payer Medicare for all...wouldn't get the votes.

The RW echo chamber put forth so many lies when the law was being debated that it was weaker than it should have been.........the bullshit won the day.

And now.....now tht we have a law that is just a shell of what it ought to be.....nutters are bitching about it not being a resounding success for every Anerican from day one.

Have a little integrity.

 

[Amelia]

Maybe you are, Amelia. Sometimes I get that impression from you.

But, a thread like this.....begun with a success story....then shit on by all of your bedfellows...post after post....is indicative of different motives.

This law.....like Social Security and Medicare before it....will take some time and some adjustments. And who knows.....maybe it will end up being less than what is needed. So, we'll take the necessary steps.

Five years.........five years of this shit. It is unAmerican. Period.

The way this law was enacted is the cancer to which I refer. That was a punch in the face for our democratic principles. That needs to be recognized and apologized for and the people need to be awakened to what we're losing if we say the ends justify the means.

But the left will accuse me of wanting America to fail because I care so passionately for the democratic principles they have abandoned.

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

It was passed dishonestly and after it was seen that the nation was so opposed to it that liberal Massachusetts sent a Republican to fill the Kennedy seat to stop it, Democrats took extraordinary measures to get it passed against the will of an angst-ridden nation whom Obama had already broken faith with. That was anti-democratic.

But I'll allow that it was Democratic. Democrats do not deserve the name they have taken for themselves.

For the Supreme Court to approve it they had to call Obama a liar. The bill would never have passed if the mandate were called a tax. Obama said it wasn't a tax. The Supreme Court called it a tax to pass it -- agreeing with the tax argument which the deceitful anti-democratic Obama sent his Justice Dept. to court to make.

The law would never have passed if Obama and the rest of the Democrats had been honest about it. And we know that at least some of the deceptions were made knowingly because Obama's contradictions are on record.

This brings us back to the media failing to do their job to expose Obama's lies and help the nation make an informed decision about their elected officials in a timely manner.

This is a cancer and needs to be cured. It won't be cured by denying that it exists.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The way this law was enacted is the cancer to which I refer. That was a punch in the face for our democratic principles. That needs to be recognized and apologized for and the people need to be awakened to what we're losing if we say the ends justify the means.

But the left will accuse me of wanting America to fail because I care so passionately for the democratic principles they have abandoned.

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

It was passed dishonestly and after it was seen that the nation was so opposed to it that liberal Massachusetts sent a Republican to fill the Kennedy seat to stop it, Democrats took extraordinary measures to get it passed against the will of an angst-ridden nation whom Obama had already broken faith with. That was anti-democratic.

But I'll allow that it was Democratic. Democrats do not deserve the name they have taken for themselves.

For the Supreme Court to approve it they had to call Obama a liar. The bill would never have passed if the mandate were called a tax. Obama said it wasn't a tax. The Supreme Court called it a tax to pass it -- agreeing with the tax argument which the deceitful anti-democratic Obama sent his Justice Dept. to court to make.

The law would never have passed if Obama and the rest of the Democrats had been honest about it. And we know that at least some of the deceptions were made knowingly because Obama's contradictions are on record.

This brings us back to the media failing to do their job to expose Obama's lies and help the nation make an informed decision about their elected officials in a timely manner.

This is a cancer and needs to be cured. It won't be cured by denying that it exists.

Whatever. You don't like the law. The rest is really immaterial. It is not a cancer. It is an attempt to cure a cancer. You can root for it to succeed or not. You can talk up the successes....or you can talk up the problems.

That is your choice.

Think about it.

 

[Amelia]

Lets not forget......that the ACA is a total compromise from day one. It was developed with the realization that the real solution......single payer Medicare for all...wouldn't get the votes.

The RW echo chamber put forth so many lies when the law was being debated that it was weaker than it should have been.........the bullshit won the day.

And now.....now tht we have a law that is just a shell of what it ought to be.....nutters are bitching about it not being a resounding success for every Anerican from day one.

Have a little integrity.

Blaming the right for Democrats' lack of honesty or respect for the public

 

[LoneLaugher]

Lets not forget......that the ACA is a total compromise from day one. It was developed with the realization that the real solution......single payer Medicare for all...wouldn't get the votes.

The RW echo chamber put forth so many lies when the law was being debated that it was weaker than it should have been.........the bullshit won the day.

And now.....now tht we have a law that is just a shell of what it ought to be.....nutters are bitching about it not being a resounding success for every Anerican from day one.

Have a little integrity.

Blaming the right for Democrats' lack of honesty or respect for the public

Blaming the right for NOT TRYING TO HELP AT ALL!!!!!

And you know it.

Maybe if a mountain of lies were not in the way of progress...The POTUS wouldn't have had to spin the way he did.

Death panels? Socialism? Blah blah blah....it was constant bullshit.

 

[Amelia]

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

It was passed dishonestly and after it was seen that the nation was so opposed to it that liberal Massachusetts sent a Republican to fill the Kennedy seat to stop it, Democrats took extraordinary measures to get it passed against the will of an angst-ridden nation whom Obama had already broken faith with. That was anti-democratic.

But I'll allow that it was Democratic. Democrats do not deserve the name they have taken for themselves.

For the Supreme Court to approve it they had to call Obama a liar. The bill would never have passed if the mandate were called a tax. Obama said it wasn't a tax. The Supreme Court called it a tax to pass it -- agreeing with the tax argument which the deceitful anti-democratic Obama sent his Justice Dept. to court to make.

The law would never have passed if Obama and the rest of the Democrats had been honest about it. And we know that at least some of the deceptions were made knowingly because Obama's contradictions are on record.

This brings us back to the media failing to do their job to expose Obama's lies and help the nation make an informed decision about their elected officials in a timely manner.

This is a cancer and needs to be cured. It won't be cured by denying that it exists.

Whatever. You don't like the law. The rest is really immaterial. It is not a cancer. It is an attempt to cure a cancer. You can root for it to succeed or not. You can talk up the successes....or you can talk up the problems.

That is your choice.

Think about it.

I am rooting for the success of the country. You conflate the success of the ACA with the success of the country.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It was passed dishonestly and after it was seen that the nation was so opposed to it that liberal Massachusetts sent a Republican to fill the Kennedy seat to stop it, Democrats took extraordinary measures to get it passed against the will of an angst-ridden nation whom Obama had already broken faith with. That was anti-democratic.

But I'll allow that it was Democratic. Democrats do not deserve the name they have taken for themselves.

For the Supreme Court to approve it they had to call Obama a liar. The bill would never have passed if the mandate were called a tax. Obama said it wasn't a tax. The Supreme Court called it a tax to pass it -- agreeing with the tax argument which the deceitful anti-democratic Obama sent his Justice Dept. to court to make.

The law would never have passed if Obama and the rest of the Democrats had been honest about it. And we know that at least some of the deceptions were made knowingly because Obama's contradictions are on record.

This brings us back to the media failing to do their job to expose Obama's lies and help the nation make an informed decision about their elected officials in a timely manner.

This is a cancer and needs to be cured. It won't be cured by denying that it exists.

Whatever. You don't like the law. The rest is really immaterial. It is not a cancer. It is an attempt to cure a cancer. You can root for it to succeed or not. You can talk up the successes....or you can talk up the problems.

That is your choice.

Think about it.

I am rooting for the success of the country. You conflate the success of the ACA with the success of the country.

Since it is the only heath care reform that was offered......yes. Doing nothing was not an option. The right offered nothing.

Since this is what WE did.....you bet your ass rooting for it to succeed is patriotic.

 

[norwegen]

Come on.

The law was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the duly elected President of the United States and ruled Constitutional by our Supreme Court. It was enacted in an entirely Democratic manner.

No Democratic principles have been abandoned.

For crying out loud.

The law was passed by Democrats. Being enacted in a Democratic manner is the problem.

If it were enacted in a democratic manner, it would still be a problem. Once upon a time, before the United States was a democracy, laws were enacted in a republican manner, which presented few problems or controversies. That is, our republican laws of old were not arbitrary or positive.

Democratic principles should be abandoned. Republican principles should be restored. You see, LoneLaugher, republicanism cannot function when democracy gets in the way.

Word salad.

You tried really hard, too, didn't you?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How can you have any success from something that was created on a lie? obama even got lie of the year award about obamacare.

That is the thinking of a simpleton.

A simpleton would agree with obamacare.
Now if obamacare was so damn good why did obama have to lie about it?
Ms. Simpleton

 

[Amelia]

Whatever. You don't like the law. The rest is really immaterial. It is not a cancer. It is an attempt to cure a cancer. You can root for it to succeed or not. You can talk up the successes....or you can talk up the problems.

That is your choice.

Think about it.

I am rooting for the success of the country. You conflate the success of the ACA with the success of the country.

Since it is the only heath care reform that was offered......yes. Doing nothing was not an option. The right offered nothing.

Since this is what WE did.....you bet your ass rooting for it to succeed is patriotic.

Democrats had a chance to do something good. Instead they chose the ACA.

Just because it would have been hard to accomplish something good is not an excuse for what Democrats did.

I will continue to root for the success of America and will continue to count as a blessing everything which shows how badly served our nation was by the people who allowed Democrats to get away with the travesty they committed on the nation.

The cure will be painful and America deserves the pain because as a nation we were not vigilant. But a cure is possible and I continue to hope that it comes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I am rooting for the success of the country. You conflate the success of the ACA with the success of the country.

Since it is the only heath care reform that was offered......yes. Doing nothing was not an option. The right offered nothing.

Since this is what WE did.....you bet your ass rooting for it to succeed is patriotic.

Democrats had a chance to do something good. Instead they chose the ACA.

Just because it would have been hard to accomplish something good is not an excuse for what Democrats did.

I will continue to root for the success of America and will continue to count as a blessing everything which shows how badly served our nation was by the people who allowed Democrats to get away with the travesty they committed on the nation.

The cure will be painful and America deserves the pain because as a nation we were not vigilant. But a cure is possible and I continue to hope that it comes.

Political ideology.....it governs you. I get it.

The ACA is based on a conservative idea...modeled after the plan championed by the GOP's last Presidential candidate. Travesty......you jest.

It is weak....it was made weak by your side. Now you hope for it to fail for political points.

Five years.

 

[Antares]

How can you say they were "better and cheaper" when they did not even meet the minimum standards of the ACA? All the people that had to move out of substandard plans had the opportunity to enroll in the ACA and get better plans than they had.

you do realize the minimum standards of the aca cover pretty much nothing, have high deductibles and you pay mostly out of pocket. and you do realize that the reason there was such a massive result when the program launched was because 5,000,000 people who were told they could keep their plans received cancellation notices and what they found was less than what they had and cost more. you aren't hearing a whole lot of hey, I lost my plan but no I am doing so much better on obamacare, stories. if people were, you liberal idiots would be posting them all over the internet. but the reality is, more people have been screwed by it the have benefitted form it. ok even the poster girl for obamacare got screwed. I mean seriously. how does the person you select for your campaign as the face of your program, who is supposed to benefit from it end up in an even worse situation because of it. but that typifies the disaster this plan is

You are not in possession of the facts.

Everything Spoon said is true, all of it.
ANYTHING below Silver is junk.