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It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:
Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship
In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.
In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present.
So you love socialists now, good move.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
No. That's the kind of absolutism that exacerbates the problem, and we're getting it from both ends of this issue.These 'peace-loving' muslims are as guilty as those who commit the atrocities.
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It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:
Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship
In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.
In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present.
So you love socialists now, good move.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
Public schools are a government run enterprise, funded by taxpayers, with government employees,
that provide an education to all otherwise eligible children regardless of their ability to pay.
That is socialism by definition.
So you love socialists now, good move.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
Public schools are a government run enterprise, funded by taxpayers, with government employees,
that provide an education to all otherwise eligible children regardless of their ability to pay.
That is socialism by definition.
No it isn't.
Socialism is the government controlling means of production in an economic system , PERIOD.
It doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
Public schools are a government run enterprise, funded by taxpayers, with government employees,
that provide an education to all otherwise eligible children regardless of their ability to pay.
That is socialism by definition.
No it isn't.
Socialism is the government controlling means of production in an economic system , PERIOD.
It doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
You're both wrong. Socialism vs capitalism deals with the source of ownership of what is produced. Socialism posits that ownership arises from performing the labor required to produce something, whereas capitalism posits that ownership derives from providing the capital required to produce something.
Obsessing?I'll do as I please, but I do appreciate your rapt attention.Yes.You have to hand it to some folks here.
Jihadis have slaughtered hundreds over the last few weeks, they promise to continue to slaughter as many as they can as soon as they can, they would love to slaughter the children and grandchildren of every poster on this board, and we're still having this back-and-forth.
How a person can hold to such a position is inexplicable. Although this guy has a good theory:
Are you capable of defending Muslims who are not 'violent jihadis'?
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Then you should prove that once in awhile. Take a break from attacking the people who do defend innocent Muslims.
While you're at it you might want to reread this thread and count up how many posters here are now openly hostile to all of Islam.
The Regressive Left annoys me more than the Talk Radio Right. Who knows why. It is what it is.
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That's because you're a conservative posing as a centrist. Instead of obsessing on people like me, how about you address posts like 457?
Your tacit approval of those people speaks volumes.
Indeed. And it's causing us great harm.There is a middle ground, yet the extremists on both sides of this issue are going nuts. The nutters get pretty emotional.
Again, your answer appears to be "yes".I don't give a fuck if a skank like Janet Jackson is a muslim or not.The question I asked: "Just to confirm, then, you equate (24 Famous celebrities who are Muslim) Shaquille O'Neal, Ellen Burstyn, Ali, Janet Jackson and Dr. Oz with a man in the Middle East who would cut the head off an American child and post it on You Tube, is that a fair statement?""Yes" to what?I'm assuming that's a "yes".Now you will put up even a SINGLE quote by any of the fantastic number of "Famous Muslim Celebrities" who have come out and condemned Jihadism. Just one out of ALL 24!So let me get this straight.
You said "these 'peace-loving muslims are as guilty as those who commit the atrocities."
Just to confirm, then, you equate (24 Famous celebrities who are Muslim) Shaquille O'Neal, Ellen Burstyn, Ali, Janet Jackson and Dr. Oz with a man in the Middle East who would cut the head off an American child and post it on You Tube, is that a fair statement?
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I do not believe ANY muslim who professes to follow the teaching found in the coran can be a "peaceful muslim".
It's an oxymoron.
As a muslim you must be 'all-in' with the teachings of the coran or you are not a muslim. Period.
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Yes?
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I stand by my statement. Anyone who claims to be a muslim must follow the teachings of the coran.
Within those teachings are found the commands for muslims all over the world to commit mass murder and acts of terrorism on every 'non-believer'.
Any muslim, even fucking Dr. OZ who would openly condemn these barbaric insane acts of violence is an automatic target for other muslims to murder.
Hence the reason NO FUCKING MUSLIMS will condemn the teachings found within the coran which they themselves profess to follow.
Muslim (those muslims who stop following the coran are risking their lives and their families lives of course) who follow the coran's teachings are either current terrorists or they are complicant in the terrorist acts other muslims commit. Period.
If we look at nations that have multiple cultures, what you see is rioting, mass murder and chaos.
So...all nations.
All nations? Look at Japan. Look at Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands.
Looking....yep. All nations with multiple cultures. For crying out loud, Netherlands is a kingdom that crosses the Atlantic.
I don't give a fuck if a skank like Janet Jackson is a muslim or not.The question I asked: "Just to confirm, then, you equate (24 Famous celebrities who are Muslim) Shaquille O'Neal, Ellen Burstyn, Ali, Janet Jackson and Dr. Oz with a man in the Middle East who would cut the head off an American child and post it on You Tube, is that a fair statement?""Yes" to what?I'm assuming that's a "yes".Now you will put up even a SINGLE quote by any of the fantastic number of "Famous Muslim Celebrities" who have come out and condemned Jihadism. Just one out of ALL 24!So let me get this straight.
You said "these 'peace-loving muslims are as guilty as those who commit the atrocities."
Just to confirm, then, you equate (24 Famous celebrities who are Muslim) Shaquille O'Neal, Ellen Burstyn, Ali, Janet Jackson and Dr. Oz with a man in the Middle East who would cut the head off an American child and post it on You Tube, is that a fair statement?
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I do not believe ANY muslim who professes to follow the teaching found in the coran can be a "peaceful muslim".
It's an oxymoron.
As a muslim you must be 'all-in' with the teachings of the coran or you are not a muslim. Period.
.
Yes?
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I stand by my statement. Anyone who claims to be a muslim must follow the teachings of the coran.
Within those teachings are found the commands for muslims all over the world to commit mass murder and acts of terrorism on every 'non-believer'.
Any muslim, even fucking Dr. OZ who would openly condemn these barbaric insane acts of violence is an automatic target for other muslims to murder.
Hence the reason NO FUCKING MUSLIMS will condemn the teachings found within the coran which they themselves profess to follow.
Muslim (those muslims who stop following the coran are risking their lives and their families lives of course) who follow the coran's teachings are either current terrorists or they are complicant in the terrorist acts other muslims commit. Period.
If we look at nations that have multiple cultures, what you see is rioting, mass murder and chaos.
So...all nations.
All nations? Look at Japan. Look at Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands.
Looking....yep. All nations with multiple cultures. For crying out loud, Netherlands is a kingdom that crosses the Atlantic.
"Crosses the Atlantic?" What the fuck does that mean? THe people in the Netherlands all come from the same ethnic ancestry and speak the same language.
It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:
Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship
In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.
In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present.
So you love socialists now, good move.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
For those who rail about less government, Switzerland is not where you want to live. They have a very heavy handed government that keeps the country "in line".It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:
Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship
In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.
In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present.
So you love socialists now, good move.
Switzerland is near the top of the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. It's no more "socialist" than Singapore.
Switzerland and Norway have thrived, not being members of the EU. They do their own thing. They've remained independent sovereign nations. And it's worked.
These same posters who are talking about the immigration policy of Switzerland would find many other aspects of the Swiss government they would be whining about.
That's pure horseshit. Switzerland is ranked 4th on the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.
So you love socialists now, good move.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
Public schools are a government run enterprise, funded by taxpayers, with government employees,
that provide an education to all otherwise eligible children regardless of their ability to pay.
That is socialism by definition.
No it isn't.
Socialism is the government controlling means of production in an economic system , PERIOD.
It doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
If we look at nations that have multiple cultures, what you see is rioting, mass murder and chaos.
So...all nations.
All nations? Look at Japan. Look at Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands.
Looking....yep. All nations with multiple cultures. For crying out loud, Netherlands is a kingdom that crosses the Atlantic.
"Crosses the Atlantic?" What the fuck does that mean? THe people in the Netherlands all come from the same ethnic ancestry and speak the same language.
listen); Papiamentu: Antia Hulandes[2]) is a former country that was a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. The country consisted of several island territories located in theCaribbean Sea. The islands were also informally known as the Dutch Antilles.[3] The country came into being in 1954 as the autonomous successor of the Dutch colony of Curaçao and Dependencies and was completely dissolved in 2010. The former Dutch colony of Surinam, although it was relatively close by on the continent of South America, did not become part of Netherlands Antilles but became a separate autonomous country at the same time. All the island territories that belonged to the Netherlands Antilles remain part of the Kingdom today,
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
Public schools are a government run enterprise, funded by taxpayers, with government employees,
that provide an education to all otherwise eligible children regardless of their ability to pay.
That is socialism by definition.
No it isn't.
Socialism is the government controlling means of production in an economic system , PERIOD.
It doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
Schools are the means of producing education. They are part of the means of production.
Switzerland isn't Socialist you ignoramus, there's also no history of Socialism in Switzerland.
The SVP are the largest single party in the Bundesversammlung with 65 members of the Nationalrat and in total in the Nationalrat from the 200 seats, 137 are held by parties of the Right. In the Ständerat 31 of the 46 seats are held by parties of the Right, CVP, FDP, SVP.
They don't have public schools in Switzerland?
Public schools aren't socialism you stupid fuck.
Public schools are a government run enterprise, funded by taxpayers, with government employees,
that provide an education to all otherwise eligible children regardless of their ability to pay.
That is socialism by definition.
No it isn't.
Socialism is the government controlling means of production in an economic system , PERIOD.
It doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
Schools are the means of producing education. They are part of the means of production.
