Swiss do the unthinkable: deny Muslims citizenship.

[boedicca]

Agree and Let's ban guns for anyone on the no fly list..

Translation: Let's adopt totalitarian policies which enable unelected bureaucrats to put political enemies on secret lists in order to deny them their rights protected by The Constitution.

It is a new world that requires new strategies. There is due process for those who are on the no fly list incorrectly. They get off the list they get their right to own a gun. How many are on their incorrectly; very few?
How many felons that are not allowed to own a gun have been incorrectly convicted; many more than those on the no fly list incorrectly.

Due process requires a trial before your Constitutional rights can be revoked, numskull.

The Constitution has ammendmants to bring it up to the needs of the time.
Terrorists are using our rights to kill us. There has to be common sense revisions to meet the risks of the new world.
The 9/11 hijackers would have been stopped if their had not been such tight restrictions on monitoring their phone calls. Changes were made.

Regardless of your opinion, the law is the law. The Constitution states that your rights cannot be revoked without due process of law. That is defined as a trial by jury. The no-fly list does not constitute due process of law.

End of story.

Trial is not the only means. Approved search warrants apply as well.

 

[Contumacious]

You're right. If Congress passed a law that prohibited immigration permissions to current or former members of ISIS, that would be perfectly constitutional. Passing a law that simply bans immigration based on religion would not.

Agree and Let's ban guns for anyone on the no fly list..

Translation: Let's adopt totalitarian policies which enable unelected bureaucrats to put political enemies on secret lists in order to deny them their rights protected by The Constitution.

It is a new world that requires new strategies. There is due process for those who are on the no fly list incorrectly. They get off the list they get their right to own a gun. How many are on their incorrectly; very few?
How many felons that are not allowed to own a gun have been incorrectly convicted; many more than those on the no fly list incorrectly.

Due process requires a trial before your Constitutional rights can be revoked, numskull.

The Constitution has ammendmants to bring it up to the needs of the time.
Terrorists are using our rights to kill us. There has to be common sense revisions to meet the risks of the new world.
The 9/11 hijackers would have been stopped if their had not been such tight restrictions on monitoring their phone calls. Changes were made.

Terrorists are using our rights to kill us.

That's because US Warmongers and interventionists want to enforce warhawk law upon Muslim nations.

Beginning with scumbag Harry S Truman who in 1949 made , at least, 1.3 Million Palestinians FOREIGNERS IN THEIR OWN LAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[bripat9643]

Assimilation is the key to successful Immigration. And the Left Globalists botched that big time in Europe.

That is true. But assimilation is a two way street. Too many people nowadays are wrapped up in all the wrong false dichotomies. Too many conservatives don't want any change to ever happen, while too many liberals want tons of change but want to control the path. Nations assimilate too when they take in immigrants. The culture absorbs and retains the new elements and is effected. Liberals can't seem to get it through their heads that too much change too quickly always leads to problems.

That's exactly the problem. What sane person wants our nation to "assimilate" to their filthy despicable culture? There is nothing admirable or desirable about the culture these savages bring with them. Keeping it out of our country is one of the best arguments for closing down immigration.

 

[bripat9643]

Translation: Let's adopt totalitarian policies which enable unelected bureaucrats to put political enemies on secret lists in order to deny them their rights protected by The Constitution.

It is a new world that requires new strategies. There is due process for those who are on the no fly list incorrectly. They get off the list they get their right to own a gun. How many are on their incorrectly; very few?
How many felons that are not allowed to own a gun have been incorrectly convicted; many more than those on the no fly list incorrectly.

Due process requires a trial before your Constitutional rights can be revoked, numskull.

The Constitution has ammendmants to bring it up to the needs of the time.
Terrorists are using our rights to kill us. There has to be common sense revisions to meet the risks of the new world.
The 9/11 hijackers would have been stopped if their had not been such tight restrictions on monitoring their phone calls. Changes were made.

Regardless of your opinion, the law is the law. The Constitution states that your rights cannot be revoked without due process of law. That is defined as a trial by jury. The no-fly list does not constitute due process of law.

End of story.

Trial is not the only means. Approved search warrants apply as well.

That only temporarily violates your 4th Amendment right.

 

[ElmerMudd]

It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:

Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship

In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.

In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present. ​

So you love socialists now, good move.

Switzerland is near the top of the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. It's no more "socialist" than Singapore.

Switzerland and Norway have thrived, not being members of the EU. They do their own thing. They've remained independent sovereign nations. And it's worked.

For those who rail about less government, Switzerland is not where you want to live. They have a very heavy handed government that keeps the country "in line".
These same posters who are talking about the immigration policy of Switzerland would find many other aspects of the Swiss government they would be whining about.

Bullshit!

Switzerland is one of the freest countries in Europe. It is based upon assimilating three different cultures and has been successful for centuries. They somehow meld German, French, and Italian cultures into one nation that rules through the will of the people. All they ask is that people obey the rules. Failure to do so indicates the people who ignore those rules are refusing to become part of the culture. The Swiss have a right to refuse them citizenship.

Here's from the article:

In Switzerland, unlike in the United States and many other countries, integration into society is more important for naturalization than knowledge of national history or politics. Candidates for citizenship must prove that they are well assimilated in their communities and respect local customs and traditions.

In Switzerland, local town or village councils make initial decisions on naturalization applications. If they decide a candidate is not an upstanding member of the community, the application will be denied and not forwarded to canton (state) and federal authorities for further processing.Well, will you look at that. The Swiss think their immigration laws should be used to benefit their own nation! The audacity of these people!

You are an idiot. I have lived in Switzerland. It is a wonderful country. But you can decentralize processes with 8 million people as opposed to 350 million people.
It's government is much more heavy handed than the US but the majority of their citizens like it.
They are not a country of immigrants. They are a country founded by native populations.
You are comparing apples and oranges. What works for Switzerland does not mean it would work for the US

 

[bripat9643]

It wouldn't. The Constitution doesn't require that we grant citizenship to immigrants who are the equivalent of an invading force seeking to overthrow our system of law.

You're right. If Congress passed a law that prohibited immigration permissions to current or former members of ISIS, that would be perfectly constitutional. Passing a law that simply bans immigration based on religion would not.

Sorry, but that's just plain wrong. Our laws on granting asylum state specifically that religious persecution is to be taken into account.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:

Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship

In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.

In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present. ​

Are you actually suggesting that the US government violate the constitution to emulate a foreign nation?

I think he is suggesting we let common sense prevail.

 

[bripat9643]

It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:

Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship

In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.

In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present. ​

So you love socialists now, good move.

Switzerland is near the top of the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. It's no more "socialist" than Singapore.

Switzerland and Norway have thrived, not being members of the EU. They do their own thing. They've remained independent sovereign nations. And it's worked.

For those who rail about less government, Switzerland is not where you want to live. They have a very heavy handed government that keeps the country "in line".
These same posters who are talking about the immigration policy of Switzerland would find many other aspects of the Swiss government they would be whining about.

That's pure horseshit. Switzerland is ranked 4th on the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

 

[boedicca]

It is a new world that requires new strategies. There is due process for those who are on the no fly list incorrectly. They get off the list they get their right to own a gun. How many are on their incorrectly; very few?
How many felons that are not allowed to own a gun have been incorrectly convicted; many more than those on the no fly list incorrectly.

Due process requires a trial before your Constitutional rights can be revoked, numskull.

The Constitution has ammendmants to bring it up to the needs of the time.
Terrorists are using our rights to kill us. There has to be common sense revisions to meet the risks of the new world.
The 9/11 hijackers would have been stopped if their had not been such tight restrictions on monitoring their phone calls. Changes were made.

Regardless of your opinion, the law is the law. The Constitution states that your rights cannot be revoked without due process of law. That is defined as a trial by jury. The no-fly list does not constitute due process of law.

End of story.

Trial is not the only means. Approved search warrants apply as well.

That only temporarily violates your 4th Amendment right.

It doesn't violate it. The text says "unreasonable searches". If there is reason enough for a judge to approve a search warrant, then the search in and of itself is also reasonable.

 

[Rustic]

So you love socialists now, good move.

Switzerland is near the top of the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. It's no more "socialist" than Singapore.

Switzerland and Norway have thrived, not being members of the EU. They do their own thing. They've remained independent sovereign nations. And it's worked.

For those who rail about less government, Switzerland is not where you want to live. They have a very heavy handed government that keeps the country "in line".
These same posters who are talking about the immigration policy of Switzerland would find many other aspects of the Swiss government they would be whining about.

Bullshit!

Switzerland is one of the freest countries in Europe. It is based upon assimilating three different cultures and has been successful for centuries. They somehow meld German, French, and Italian cultures into one nation that rules through the will of the people. All they ask is that people obey the rules. Failure to do so indicates the people who ignore those rules are refusing to become part of the culture. The Swiss have a right to refuse them citizenship.

Here's from the article:

In Switzerland, unlike in the United States and many other countries, integration into society is more important for naturalization than knowledge of national history or politics. Candidates for citizenship must prove that they are well assimilated in their communities and respect local customs and traditions.

In Switzerland, local town or village councils make initial decisions on naturalization applications. If they decide a candidate is not an upstanding member of the community, the application will be denied and not forwarded to canton (state) and federal authorities for further processing.Well, will you look at that. The Swiss think their immigration laws should be used to benefit their own nation! The audacity of these people!

You are an idiot. I have lived in Switzerland. It is a wonderful country. But you can decentralize processes with 8 million people as opposed to 350 million people.
It's government is much more heavy handed than the US but the majority of their citizens like it.
They are not a country of immigrants. They are a country founded by native populations.
You are comparing apples and oranges. What works for Switzerland does not mean it would work for the US

You have an excuse for everything in your feeble mind... Lol

 

[bripat9643]

It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:

Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship

In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.

In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present. ​

Are you actually suggesting that the US government violate the constitution to emulate a foreign nation?

How would that violate the Constitution?

It wouldn't. The Constitution doesn't require that we grant citizenship to immigrants who are the equivalent of an invading force seeking to overthrow our system of law.

Really? Every Muslim who wants to enter the US wants to overthrow our system?

Prove it.

A large percentage of them believe in Sharia law, so yes they do.

 

[Contumacious]

Assimilation is the key to successful Immigration. And the Left Globalists botched that big time in Europe.

That is true. But assimilation is a two way street. Too many people nowadays are wrapped up in all the wrong false dichotomies. Too many conservatives don't want any change to ever happen, while too many liberals want tons of change but want to control the path. Nations assimilate too when they take in immigrants. The culture absorbs and retains the new elements and is effected. Liberals can't seem to get it through their heads that too much change too quickly always leads to problems.

That's exactly the problem. What sane person wants our nation to "assimilate" to their filthy despicable culture? There is nothing admirable or desirable about the culture these savages bring with them. Keeping it out of our country is one of the best arguments for closing down immigration.

Well lets look at our serial murderers and find out where they are from

Ted Bundy
Serial Killer
Theodore Robert Bundy was an American serial killer, kidnapper, rapist, and necrophile who assaulted and murdered numerous young women and girls during the 1970s and possibly earlier. Wikipedia

Born: November 24, 1946, Burlington, VT
Died: January 24, 1989, Florida State Prison, FL
Spouse: Carole Anne Boone (m. 1980–1986)
Education: University of Utah (1973–1974), More
Parents: Johnny Culpepper Bundy, Eleanor Louise Cowell
Nicknames: Lady Killer, The Campus Killer, Ted

It appears that Ted Bundy was NOT an Islamofascist.


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[bripat9643]

Are you actually suggesting that the US government violate the constitution to emulate a foreign nation?

How would that violate the Constitution?

It wouldn't. The Constitution doesn't require that we grant citizenship to immigrants who are the equivalent of an invading force seeking to overthrow our system of law.

Really? Every Muslim who wants to enter the US wants to overthrow our system?

Prove it.

Reading comprehension challenged much? I didn't say "Every Muslim".

I've seen your act. Yes, you did?

Should we disqualify Muslim applicants for citizenship for not wanting to engage in a co-ed swimming class,

on the grounds of their religious beliefs?

We should disqualify Muslim applicants for citizenship, period.

 

[bripat9643]

Assimilation is the key to successful Immigration. And the Left Globalists botched that big time in Europe.

That is true. But assimilation is a two way street. Too many people nowadays are wrapped up in all the wrong false dichotomies. Too many conservatives don't want any change to ever happen, while too many liberals want tons of change but want to control the path. Nations assimilate too when they take in immigrants. The culture absorbs and retains the new elements and is effected. Liberals can't seem to get it through their heads that too much change too quickly always leads to problems.

That's exactly the problem. What sane person wants our nation to "assimilate" to their filthy despicable culture? There is nothing admirable or desirable about the culture these savages bring with them. Keeping it out of our country is one of the best arguments for closing down immigration.

Well lets look at our serial murderers and find out where they are from

Ted Bundy
Serial Killer
Theodore Robert Bundy was an American serial killer, kidnapper, rapist, and necrophile who assaulted and murdered numerous young women and girls during the 1970s and possibly earlier. Wikipedia

Born: November 24, 1946, Burlington, VT
Died: January 24, 1989, Florida State Prison, FL
Spouse: Carole Anne Boone (m. 1980–1986)
Education: University of Utah (1973–1974), More
Parents: Johnny Culpepper Bundy, Eleanor Louise Cowell
Nicknames: Lady Killer, The Campus Killer, Ted

It appears that Ted Bundy was NOT an Islamofascist.


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What does Ted Bundy have to do with anything, douche bag?

 

[bripat9643]

It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:

Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship

In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.

In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present. ​

So you love socialists now, good move.

Switzerland is near the top of the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. It's no more "socialist" than Singapore.

And your thread premise is a lie, once again confirming the fact you’re a liar and bigot.

How is it a lie? One thing we know is that the truth is always the exact opposite of whatever you post.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

It wouldn't. The Constitution doesn't require that we grant citizenship to immigrants who are the equivalent of an invading force seeking to overthrow our system of law.

You're right. If Congress passed a law that prohibited immigration permissions to current or former members of ISIS, that would be perfectly constitutional. Passing a law that simply bans immigration based on religion would not.

Agree and Let's ban guns for anyone on the no fly list..

Translation: Let's adopt totalitarian policies which enable unelected bureaucrats to put political enemies on secret lists in order to deny them their rights protected by The Constitution.

It is a new world that requires new strategies. There is due process for those who are on the no fly list incorrectly. They get off the list they get their right to own a gun. How many are on their incorrectly; very few?
How many felons that are not allowed to own a gun have been incorrectly convicted; many more than those on the no fly list incorrectly.

Due process requires a trial before your Constitutional rights can be revoked, numskull.

This is what all Leftists want for us and for America the words of Gaddafi, meaning they don't have to shoot and blow things up, they'll breed like rabbits, one man with four wives = 20 children x ?? million men = in 50 years WE'LL be finished.

No NOT happening, they can forget about it, this is war and we're going to be prepared to act accordingly.

This is the answer:

This is also the answer:

 

[ElmerMudd]

It's "unthinkable" to American immigration officials, but not to any American capable of understanding common sense:

Swiss Do the Unthinkable: Deny Muslims Citizenship

In a move which no doubt has American immigration officials baffled, the Swiss are denying citizenship to Muslim after Muslim for failing to integrate into their society.

In this latest case, two Muslim girls were denied citizenship because they refused to swim in a pool with boys present. ​

So you love socialists now, good move.

Switzerland is near the top of the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. It's no more "socialist" than Singapore.

Switzerland and Norway have thrived, not being members of the EU. They do their own thing. They've remained independent sovereign nations. And it's worked.

For those who rail about less government, Switzerland is not where you want to live. They have a very heavy handed government that keeps the country "in line".
These same posters who are talking about the immigration policy of Switzerland would find many other aspects of the Swiss government they would be whining about.

That's pure horseshit. Switzerland is ranked 4th on the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Economic freedom not overall freedom
Think about it, they can ban someone from being a citizen because they do not assimilate into the culture. You may like that, but it is a heavy handed government.
Having lived in Switzerland, I am confident they would never let you in; you do not fit..

Switzerland is a great country but it is very different in culture and circumstances than the USA.

 

[Contumacious]

Assimilation is the key to successful Immigration. And the Left Globalists botched that big time in Europe.

That is true. But assimilation is a two way street. Too many people nowadays are wrapped up in all the wrong false dichotomies. Too many conservatives don't want any change to ever happen, while too many liberals want tons of change but want to control the path. Nations assimilate too when they take in immigrants. The culture absorbs and retains the new elements and is effected. Liberals can't seem to get it through their heads that too much change too quickly always leads to problems.

That's exactly the problem. What sane person wants our nation to "assimilate" to their filthy despicable culture? There is nothing admirable or desirable about the culture these savages bring with them. Keeping it out of our country is one of the best arguments for closing down immigration.

Well lets look at our serial murderers and find out where they are from

Ted Bundy
Serial Killer
Theodore Robert Bundy was an American serial killer, kidnapper, rapist, and necrophile who assaulted and murdered numerous young women and girls during the 1970s and possibly earlier. Wikipedia

Born: November 24, 1946, Burlington, VT
Died: January 24, 1989, Florida State Prison, FL
Spouse: Carole Anne Boone (m. 1980–1986)
Education: University of Utah (1973–1974), More
Parents: Johnny Culpepper Bundy, Eleanor Louise Cowell
Nicknames: Lady Killer, The Campus Killer, Ted

It appears that Ted Bundy was NOT an Islamofascist.


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What does Ted Bundy have to do with anything, douche bag?

Excuse me cum swalllower

Did you make the following statement

That's exactly the problem. What sane person wants our nation to "assimilate" to their filthy despicable culture? There is nothing admirable or desirable about the culture these savages bring with them. Keeping it out of our country is one of the best arguments for closing down immigration.

Was Ted Bundy and his ilk home grown members of a despicable culture? Were they Islamofascists? What made Ted Bundy and his peers savages?


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[TooTall]

It wouldn't. The Constitution doesn't require that we grant citizenship to immigrants who are the equivalent of an invading force seeking to overthrow our system of law.

You're right. If Congress passed a law that prohibited immigration permissions to current or former members of ISIS, that would be perfectly constitutional. Passing a law that simply bans immigration based on religion would not.

Not all Muslims belong to ISIS, but all ISIS members are Muslims.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The girls, whose names were not disclosed, said their religion prevents them from participating in compulsory swimming lessons with males in the pool at the same time. Their naturalization application was rejected because the sisters did not comply with the school curriculum, Basel authorities said.

Aha! They want to invoke their religion as a means to be exempt from the law!

Who does that sound like? I'll give you a hint...

starts with 'Christian' and ends with 'Conservatives'

OOPS.

Those Christians were born here, and the Constitution protects their religious expression.

How'd that work out for Kim Davis?